It was good.....

[UltiMario]

There are a lot of great anti-MK ban statements out there, that really support us, and really try to prove MK isn't banable. Even Ally has proven in one way or another that the best MK player in the world can be decimated by a few 'nades.

But its just WAY overbalenced by everything against us. Nobody likes MK, everyone thinks he's just too broken to believe, and the problem is, I've seen that MK mains gloat and are overly dominant about it. Just the community thinks that everything would be better off without MK by a longshot. It looks like the time for all us MK mains is coming to an end. The polls point to the fact that MK is going to get banned, no matter what.



But, there aren't quite as many that I think feels the pain I do with this. Don't deny it people, I know many of you play MK for the same reason people play Marth and Fox in Melee, because those were the best characters in the entire game. Now all of you have hopped onto the MK train to increase your chances of winning. But for me? Well, I guess I'll say this. It was a few days after the first SSBB trailer was shown, and I saw it. When I saw Meta Knight in that trailer, I said to myself, "I don't care if Meta Knight turns out to be the absolute worst piece of trash every born into a smash game or not, I'm going to main him in Brawl."

And that, my feelow Meta Knight players, is exactly what I did. It's not the face that Meta Knight is the best character, I wouldn't have minded is he was the worst. I want to play him, because there is nothing in this world that means more to me in smash than playing as that blue, winged puffball that slices and dices.
I think that banning characters in a Smash game is completely obsurd. I thought it was the fact that fighting games were virtually made to have a broken character that was why they were banned. Like Ubers in Pokemon, or other things I'm too lazy to mention.

Meta Knight was NEVER made to be this broken, and never even THOUGHT to be more than a newb-friendly character that you can pick up and get into the game as. They never had the idea of making this a serious game, either, so I guess that doesn't mean crap.

I'm not really sure what to say anymore, it would be the most tragic thing thats ever happened. I normally follow the advice of competative smash players and the like, but if they're saying "Ban Meta Knight" I wouldn't know what to think anymore.

Although, there is a terrible danger beyond all this that I see, and probably many others have seen it as well.....

I doubt the competative scene could hold itself together for say.... three months with Meta Knight banned. Smashboards wouldn't be more than 4chan the *insert numer here* within that time. I see the boards, in a giant flamewar. Everywhere you look theres unban Meta Knight this and that. The boards would not sustain itself for any amount of time, and mass banning would occur. Smashboards could end up with less than a quarter of their old members left by the time the flames die down, and by then, thats 3/4 of the competative scene, wrecked over the banning of Meta Knight. I've seen these sorts of things happen. One person makes a blog about it after MK is banned, then 100, then 1000, then it bursts out in every forum here, over on AllisBrawl, and more.

I'm completely crushed by the fact THIS poll with show, in such early days of brawl, a MERE YEAR AND SOME MONTHS AFTER THE GAME CAME OUT, that MK will be banned. In 2009 they're still finding new things on the Melee metagame, and seeing things they've never seen or done before. This is FAR too early to ban MK, and banning him at all will cause havok so great that there may not even BE a Brawl scene after it occurse.

But then again, that's just my opinion.....

Wow this post turned from a story of before Brawl was released into something new and different. Funny things happen when you type, heh.

 

[urdailywater]

I feel like you are exaggerating this a bit. Mass chaos won't come out from this. And you have to remember how many tournament holders will actually follow SBR regular after he is banned.

I'm not saying there won't be after effects -- but not as bad as your making it to be. Heh.
Either way, interesting read.

 

[swordgard]

There are a lot of great anti-MK ban statements out there, that really support us, and really try to prove MK isn't banable. Even Ally has proven in one way or another that the best MK player in the world can be decimated by a few 'nades.

But its just WAY overbalenced by everything against us. Nobody likes MK, everyone thinks he's just too broken to believe, and the problem is, I've seen that MK mains gloat and are overly dominant about it. Just the community thinks that everything would be better off without MK by a longshot. It looks like the time for all us MK mains is coming to an end. The polls point to the fact that MK is going to get banned, no matter what.



But, there aren't quite as many that I think feels the pain I do with this. Don't deny it people, I know many of you play MK for the same reason people play Marth and Fox in Melee, because those were the best characters in the entire game. Now all of you have hopped onto the MK train to increase your chances of winning. But for me? Well, I guess I'll say this. It was a few days after the first SSBB trailer was shown, and I saw it. When I saw Meta Knight in that trailer, I said to myself, "I don't care if Meta Knight turns out to be the absolute worst piece of trash every born into a smash game or not, I'm going to main him in Brawl."

And that, my feelow Meta Knight players, is exactly what I did. It's not the face that Meta Knight is the best character, I wouldn't have minded is he was the worst. I want to play him, because there is nothing in this world that means more to me in smash than playing as that blue, winged puffball that slices and dices.
I think that banning characters in a Smash game is completely obsurd. I thought it was the fact that fighting games were virtually made to have a broken character that was why they were banned. Like Ubers in Pokemon, or other things I'm too lazy to mention.

Meta Knight was NEVER made to be this broken, and never even THOUGHT to be more than a newb-friendly character that you can pick up and get into the game as. They never had the idea of making this a serious game, either, so I guess that doesn't mean crap.

I'm not really sure what to say anymore, it would be the most tragic thing thats ever happened. I normally follow the advice of competative smash players and the like, but if they're saying "Ban Meta Knight" I wouldn't know what to think anymore.

Although, there is a terrible danger beyond all this that I see, and probably many others have seen it as well.....

I doubt the competative scene could hold itself together for say.... three months with Meta Knight banned. Smashboards wouldn't be more than 4chan the *insert numer here* within that time. I see the boards, in a giant flamewar. Everywhere you look theres unban Meta Knight this and that. The boards would not sustain itself for any amount of time, and mass banning would occur. Smashboards could end up with less than a quarter of their old members left by the time the flames die down, and by then, thats 3/4 of the competative scene, wrecked over the banning of Meta Knight. I've seen these sorts of things happen. One person makes a blog about it after MK is banned, then 100, then 1000, then it bursts out in every forum here, over on AllisBrawl, and more.

I'm completely crushed by the fact THIS poll with show, in such early days of brawl, a MERE YEAR AND SOME MONTHS AFTER THE GAME CAME OUT, that MK will be banned. In 2009 they're still finding new things on the Melee metagame, and seeing things they've never seen or done before. This is FAR too early to ban MK, and banning him at all will cause havok so great that there may not even BE a Brawl scene after it occurse.

But then again, that's just my opinion.....

Wow this post turned from a story of before Brawl was released into something new and different. Funny things happen when you type, heh.

So much false lies >.<


Last poll, the majority was for the MK ban, but not by a huge lead. Not all of the brawl scene wants him banned, sadly it consists of MOSTLY low tier players who believe that their characters will suddenly become viable when MK actually is the worst matchup of 3 chars.

Also, I can tell you he wont be banned. Willing to bet 20 bucks on that.


And notice how the game was actually supposed to be balanced around smash ball use (Falcons Final smash is awesome, MKs is sucky as hell).

 

[BSP]

I'm just wondering, what would you do if MK was banned? Quit Brawling? Find a new Character?

 

[Staco]

I'm just wondering, what would you do if MK was banned? Quit Brawling? Find a new Character?

I would host my own tourneys with MK allowed

 

[scorekid100]

well I doubt the poll will effect the minds of the SBR to much. I read a few posts in the ban thread that the poll only counts for 10% of whether or not mk gets banned. Whether or not its true I hope mk doesn't get banned just because its fun to use him and although I don't main him(second) it would be a shame to see him banned after only a year of brawl. I personally think we should be given some more time to see if the metagame evolves further to make mk playable.

 

[Marufuji Ryo]

I'm just wondering, what would you do if MK was banned? Quit Brawling? Find a new Character?

I will probably quit brawl completely and move to brawl+ completely, while holding a strong hatred to a majority of the vBrawl community.

 

[Gates]

If MK was banned, all it would mean would be that I'd have to find a new secondary and someone to use in doubles. Honestly though, I go Dedede for almost every game now anyway so maybe it wouldn't end up affecting me at all.

 

[judge!]

hes not getting banned dont even worry about it lol

 

[mountain_tiger]

IMO, in the current metagame, there's no good reason to ban Meta Knight. I mean, does he win practically every tournament? No. He wins a good deal of them, but many other characters in S Tier, A Tier and B Tier can do well, and a couple in C Tier too.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't use Meta Knight at all.

 

[UltiMario]

I really wasn't expecting too many responses in this. Thanks guys.

Maybe I exaggerated a little bit, but I have seen entire boards die because of a simple dispute. Then again, these weren't nearly as large as Smashboards, but still.

But if ALL of the polls say "Ban MK", then chances are rediculously higher compared to "No" Winning THIS poll. I don't want to lose my favorite character to this....

If we can just push the poll for people to start saying "No" more and more, and WIN IT THIS TIME, then chances of banning MK would become absolutely zero IMO.

 

[ice_cream_man]

the poll has to be atleast 2/3's so if 66 out of 100 ppl vote he should be banned, then he still won't be banned. MK is staying. You can breath

 

[Inaphyt]

because mk is so much better than all characters him being viable makes other characters aspire to find new ways to beat him, high level mks have been beaten by the likes of snake, ice climbers, pikachu, diddy kong, wario, dedede even marths. I really doubt he'll get banned.

 

[bobson]

The polls point to the fact that MK is going to get banned, no matter what.

Haha, no. SBR doesn't give two ****s about what the community thinks. The poll is meaningless unless pro-ban wins by a landslide, which they won't.

MK is staying in, darling, don't you worry your pretty little head.

 

[Staco]

because mk is so much better than all characters him being viable makes other characters aspire to find new ways to beat him, high level mks have been beaten by the likes of snake, ice climbers, pikachu, diddy kong, wario, dedede even marths. I really doubt he'll get banned.

Watch Ally beating M2K.
Watch M2K loosing sets to other guys.

 

[CaliburChamp]

MK won't get banned. Unless you live in Texas and are in submission to Xyro's ******** MK banned tournaments. If FL bans MK, I'll just host tournaments myself, but I don't think they will, it's over run by Snakes which keep the MK population down to some degree. 45:55 in Snake's favor I'll say because of that reason.

People in texas should step it up and host their own tournaments with MK unbanned, otherwise Texas will become a weaker smash state from not being used to MK's current metagame amongst national tournaments where MK is allowed. I can see someone hosting a banned MK national tournament, but in the end, they'll get no respect, and that will end up being the first and last banned MK national tournament.

I didn't pick up MK because he was the best. I used to main Link in melee, and he was mediocre at best. I liked the kirby series so I ended up maining MK along with Kirby and T Link. At the beginning of brawl I used to be a Sonic main, mostly from the hype of "OMG SONIC MADE IT IN BRAWL!," then eventually I grew found of Kirby's move set even more than Sonic's, I played around with MK for a bit, but I kind of refused to main him for the fact that I wasn't used to playing him. Then once I got tired of Kirby, MK became alot of fun since he can fly, and I always mained characters with swords, and my favorite characters, Kirby and Link, and my previous mains from the last games of melee and SSB 64, was like a fusion of Kirby + Link = MK. So I mained MK ever since, and whenever I got tired of playing as him, I'd just use on of my other characters, that I have practiced with.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

The argument that MK shouldn't be banned because Ally can beat high level MK's like M2k's isn't really a legitimate argument. M2K and Ally have fought each other a fair amount of times, and Ally has won basically every one if I'm not correct. He has to adapt some time. He's also one of the only snakes that can really take down high level MK's like that, I think genesis being a good example. Snake unfortunately isn't really an MK counter if you ask me.

 

[Alus]

MK cannot offically be banned because it is up to the THs... remember that the ruleset is recommended...

And if the THs wanted him banned why are they not doing it?

Even if he got banned he wont be banned. Unless EVERYONE agreed that he should be banned...
You might see a few less MKs though...

Just thought that I would throw my OP out.

 

[Katakiri]

MK cannot offically be banned because it is up to the THs... remember that the ruleset is recommended...

And if the THs wanted him banned why are they not doing it?

Even if he got banned he wont be banned. Unless EVERYONE agreed that he should be banned...
You might see a few less MKs though...

Just thought that I would throw my OP out.

Yep. The SBR's opinion isn't worth jack.

Hanenbow's my favorite counter-pick. The IDC is just too fun not to use. There's nothing broken about Final Smashes.

Brawl's so **** perfect.

 

[etecoon]

The argument that MK shouldn't be banned because Ally can beat high level MK's like M2k's isn't really a legitimate argument. M2K and Ally have fought each other a fair amount of times, and Ally has won basically every one if I'm not correct. He has to adapt some time. He's also one of the only snakes that can really take down high level MK's like that, I think genesis being a good example. Snake unfortunately isn't really an MK counter if you ask me.

M2K has actually won slightly more than Ally in that series, and yes, he is the only one, Snake clearly loses to MK by at least 45:55.

 

[Alus]

Yep. The SBR's opinion isn't worth jack.

Hanenbow's my favorite counter-pick. The IDC is just too fun not to use. There's nothing broken about Final Smashes.

Brawl's so **** perfect.

You missed the point entirely.

or errr

I think you did.

 

[CaliburChamp]

The argument that MK shouldn't be banned because Ally can beat high level MK's like M2k's isn't really a legitimate argument. M2K and Ally have fought each other a fair amount of times, and Ally has won basically every one if I'm not correct. He has to adapt some time. He's also one of the only snakes that can really take down high level MK's like that, I think genesis being a good example. Snake unfortunately isn't really an MK counter if you ask me.

If the Snake camps all day and stays grounded for the most part, the match up becomes 45:55 in Snake's favor. It's not exactly easy to dodge the wall of explosions, and it shuts down tornado, MK best option is to go for the grab, but before he can do that, he has to dodge explosion's and large and powerful hitboxes. It can fluctuate to 45:55 in MK's favor, but it's 45:55 in Snake's favor if Snake can avoid getting edge guarded, gimped, and DI's really well... kind of sounds like what Ally does. lol.

MK won't be banned.

 

[etecoon]

so basically it's 55:45 in snake's favor if MK gives up and plays stupid, thanks for the clarification.

 

[*JuriHan*]

he's not going to get banned...

 

[Staco]

The argument that MK shouldn't be banned because Ally can beat high level MK's like M2k's isn't really a legitimate argument. M2K and Ally have fought each other a fair amount of times, and Ally has won basically every one if I'm not correct. He has to adapt some time. He's also one of the only snakes that can really take down high level MK's like that, I think genesis being a good example. Snake unfortunately isn't really an MK counter if you ask me.

It shows that MK is beatable and not unbeatable. The other players, which play against M2K etc. are just too bad for him.
And there were also some others, which beat M2K, like Lain (ICs) or Fiction (Wario), which shows, that MK isnt unbeatable.
And if he is beatable, why should he get banned?


CaliburChamp, its so hard to get a grab vs. a good Snake, so its not the best thing in the MU.
If you go for a grab there will be a granade, usmash or he will dodge/roll, so that you miss and he will maybe get a free FTilt for it. Or he could FTilt you, while you are running in his direction or he starts running towards you and grab you, shortly before you do your grab. (covers your shielding option, if you try to shield his FTilt and then attack/grab him)

@ etecoon: So you think Dojo and Tyrant also always play stupid vs. Ally and give up versus him?

 

[etecoon]

@ etecoon: So you think Dojo and Tyrant also always play stupid vs. Ally and give up versus him?

No, Ally is just smarter than them(and everyone really), some people are treating his wins as being much more significant to the MU than they are because he is the only Snake that is doing what he's doing, he's lost to M2K more than won and the next best Snake's lose to the next best MK's. On the whole MK > Snake. And if you look at the last time Ally and Dojo played, Dojo won 3-2, and the two games he lost he SD'd. For Snake to beat MK he needs to outplay the MK by a fairly significant amount, as does everyone.

 

[Master Raven]

I don't believe Snake/MK is set in stone yet.

 

[etecoon]

of course not, game has only been out like a year and a half, I'm speaking from present day perspective, as of this time, it has been shown that meta knight beats snake. doesn't mean it will always be so, things are changing all the time, like just recently it was found that snake should theoretically be able to tech chase like 10 characters to death on pure reaction, MK isn't one of them but that is an example of how things are still developing.

 

[booboo]

mew2king is garbage an mk really sucks

 

[booboo]

they both suck

 

[Avenu]

You're overreacting and over exaggerating.

 

[UltiMario]

Well, hooray, no ban.
Thanks guys for all the responses, I wasn't even expecting this go get to page 2, heh.

Well, this thread serves no more purpose, then. Heh.

 

[BIGM1994]

If mk is top tier its not by much, imo snake is real close to top tier if not top with mk. mk imo has 3 50/50 matchups and 1 with an advantage, snake(that has an advantage imo), wario, diddy, lucario. Snake has 2 50/50 matchups and probaly 1 with the advantage, diddy, ddd, olimar(maybe the one with the advantage).correct me if im wrong.

so if mk gets banned, snake should get ban too.

Edit:Ics are 50/50 with mk too, i forgot

 

[Nic64]

Snake is closer to 40:60 against MK than even 50-50, nevermind an advantage, his matchup with Meta Knight is very very overrated. So is Wario's. Ice Climbers are better vs MK than all of the characters you just mentioned IMO.

 

[Steel]

Snake is closer to 40:60 against MK than even 50-50, nevermind an advantage, his matchup with Meta Knight is very very overrated. So is Wario's. Ice Climbers are better vs MK than all of the characters you just mentioned IMO.

omggggg

Nic stop posting

too much intelligence for your own good.