Infinite Second Jump Recovery List and Discussion [SEPT 7] - 19 videos!

[Skip2MaLoo]

no offense but... if i see someone doing this, they become easy to gimp because they lost their second jump. maybe its because i play falcon so i can just falcon kick with precise timing. this technique is pretty useless imo... maybe with specials/long ranged attacks (ivysaur's bair if possible, or falco's lasers) then this is pretty useful

 

[smash superstar]

Wow didnt know so many characters had this....

 

[gallax]

hey guys. everyone here should already know about the QAC(quick atack cancel) for pikachu. well the most prominent members in the community got into a discussion about the qac and its properties when it was realized that the qac has properties very similar to the ISJR. if one qac's into the ground and cancels it with a jump, they are in fact using their second jump to go back into the air, and you can perform the qac as many times as you can, making it infinite. those are just the basic rules it follows though.

what i am trying to say is that we believe that the qac should be considered an ISJR. any thoughts.?

 

[swordgard]

Can anyone please find the timing for MK and post it in a vid, ive been trying for a small amount of time and have no idea what the timing is for him(i got robs down but i want know for him). It may seem useless, but i doubt it is

 

[A New England Winter]

Wait, let me test it first before making an *** out of myself.

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AirBkYH6D48

Here is a vid showing how to do Lucas's SJR and ISJR. I didn't do the PK Fire way though. I did show how to do all of his aerials though.

 

[Raizo]

oh wow the timing must be extremely hard to use in real battle

 

[marmitonkiller]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR1jMz1Yv8
video with DK (I will probably made a better1 some day)

 

[Veril]

Just for everyone's information: nearly all aerial moves are ISJRable only if you would land exactly on their exact IASA frame and have buffered a double jump. Exceptions to this include Pikachu's QA, Bowsers Klaw, Luigi's down-b and a few others I'm forgetting ;p

Every aerial is SJRable. Aerials require frame perfect timing to be ISJRed. Zairs and specials can also be SJRed in the same way. Its very difficult to do reliably.

 

[Ol-Jeb]

For the record Veril, that is a creepy as hell picture you got there o_o

anyway.

Are there any D3 videos for this AT? Wouldn't mind figuring it out :D

 

[metalmonstar]

Looks like this tech will never take off due to the timing. I do wonder if there is any aerial that have enough IASA frames in order to make this somewhat reliably doable. Wish we could also get a frame breakdown.

 

[Raziek]

Am I the only one who noticed this thread is from 2008? >_> Just curious.

 

[teluoborg]

Looks like this tech will never take off due to the timing. I do wonder if there is any aerial that have enough IASA frames in order to make this somewhat reliably doable. Wish we could also get a frame breakdown.

Bowser's side B.
Other than that....

 

[JOE!]

this looks extremley useful for yoshi...

 

[TheMike]

Short video for ROB... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEBYxUlQVTg

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR1jMz1Yv8
video with DK (I will probably made a better1 some day)

****

Why don't mods simply lock this or sticky it.

 

[TheMike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faOIbBbwDR8

0:24

 

[Makkun]

Just came back to Smashboards after months (maybe over a year?) of not being here. (Left shorly after Brawl+ discussion was banned(?)) It seems like I have really good timing when it comes to finding really weird coincidences... Such as this thread being on the front page.

HOW IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE?

 

[WoodyWiggins]

Just came back to Smashboards after months (maybe over a year?) of not being here. (Left shorly after Brawl+ discussion was banned(?)) It seems like I have really good timing when it comes to finding really weird coincidences... Such as this thread being on the front page.

HOW IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE?

It's 'cause this technique is groundbreaking and uber useful if used the right way. We just don't know what the right way is.
Or it could be that people are addicted to the challange of timing the aerials. ^_^

 

[Makkun]

It's 'cause this technique is groundbreaking and uber useful if used the right way. We just don't know what the right way is.
Or it could be that people are addicted to the challange of timing the aerials. ^_^

Good to hear from you, Woody.

And yeah, I understand. That's the whole reason I was so interested in the project in the first place. Now I realize that Brawl doesn't really need this sort of technique... But that's exactly the reason I found I didn't really care for the game. But I still hope this technique adds some sort higher-level technical skill to the game. Maybe it will give some incentive to come back to it. ANYWAY /rant

I receieved a message from somebody from the ROB community last July (just checked my inbox ) and apparently ISJR is really useful for ROB's metagame. Do you know anything about that?

 

[saviorslegacy]

Well I can say right now that Ike can be so good if he uses this with his Fair. People will have trouble touching him because there will be a huge disjoint in their face + a strong move + Ike will be moving + he can do it again really fast. ISJ + Fair and through in a jab game and you have a really good character.

 

[WoodyWiggins]

Good to hear from you, Woody.

And yeah, I understand. That's the whole reason I was so interested in the project in the first place. Now I realize that Brawl doesn't really need this sort of technique... But that's exactly the reason I found I didn't really care for the game. But I still hope this technique adds some sort higher-level technical skill to the game. Maybe it will give some incentive to come back to it. ANYWAY /rant

I receieved a message from somebody from the ROB community last July (just checked my inbox ) and apparently ISJR is really useful for ROB's metagame. Do you know anything about that?

Thanks! Sadly, I don't know anything about ROB and the ISJR. But I think now is the time to for me to look into it.
And your wrong, Brawl does need this technique. It just needs a little guidance on how it should be used. And that's what I plan to do, once I buy Brawl (it's a long story). So get ready to update your thread.

Well I can say right now that Ike can be so good if he uses this with his Fair. People will have trouble touching him because there will be a huge disjoint in their face + a strong move + Ike will be moving + he can do it again really fast. ISJ + Fair and throw in a jab game and you have a really good character.

Dangit, quit changing your avatar, I miss the Shiek one. Anyway, couldn't you also throw a counter into the mix?

 

[saviorslegacy]

Dangit, quit changing your avatar, I miss the Shiek one. Anyway, couldn't you also throw a counter into the mix?

I will probably keep this one for a long time.
Anyways, a counter would work too. Ike has a lot of.... difficult potential. If an Ike can do everything correctly 100% of the time he could be high tier. The only other problem would be recovery.
He could probably even use Dair while ISJing.

 

[WoodyWiggins]

I will probably keep this one for a long time.
Anyways, a counter would work too. Ike has a lot of.... difficult potential. If an Ike can do everything correctly 100% of the time he could be high tier. The only other problem would be recovery.
He could probably even use Dair while ISJing.

We will see how long you keep that avatar. I got my eye on you.
How do you feel about autocanceling? To me, auto canceling is very similar to ISJR. There are a few differences, but generally speaking, autocanceling is a much easier and safer version of ISJR.
Here are two vids to compare:
Auto cancelling (mostly everyone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyhnF4jZa_Y#movie_player

ISJR (Captain Falcon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHSBgkb4qQ

 

[Kadardes]

Just wanted to let someone know that the G&W link is broken.. Haven't tested any others though.

 

[Luxor]

...Nice necro. It's great to know that nothing happened.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11200562&postcount=2

 

[WoodyWiggins]

...Nice necro. It's great to know that nothing happened.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11200562&postcount=2

I wish I had my Wii handy but, what does the 2 frame non falling state look like? Is he close to the ground but not touching, or is he in the air like a jump animation?

 

[Luxor]

It's not a useful visual cue, since you have to input the jump the instant it occurs. It looks like regular falling rather than the aerial's endlag animation.