Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[Ussi]

I don't have a virtual wife....

I haven't downloaded kotomi's married life VN yet. i'm waiting for Tomoyo's after story english patch to come out.

 

[Heartstring]

...virtual wife? Someone actually made such a thing?
Whoever did was a genius, his money smells of basement dweller though

 

[Ussi]

It started 2 years ago

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-16/world/japan.virtual.wedding_1_virtual-world-sal-marry?_s=PM:WORLD

 

[Heartstring]

It started 2 years ago

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-16/world/japan.virtual.wedding_1_virtual-world-sal-marry?_s=PM:WORLD

Come on now world. I thought you were above this!
On the other hand, this makes me look like a considerably more normal human being

 

[Ussi]

Stop talking as if you think i'm doing this

 

[jamlosingthegame]

There are also people who are married to inanimate objects...

 

[Ussi]

People marry animals too

 

[Blubolouis]

I got 7th out of ~60! I got 1st in my pool, beat some really good players and ended up losing to a marth I play quite often (went pit against him, maybe I should have trusted my ike 'till the end)

Really proud atm.

 

[san.]

Nice job Blub. Hope to see the vids!

 

[Ussi]

Good Job blubo! EU Ike hype

Try Ike next time cause I think both Pit and Ike lose -1. Just learn to stay on stage with Ike as Marth has a strong edgeguarding game vs Ike

 

[Heartstring]

Stop talking as if you think i'm doing this

I didnt say you were, i was talking directly to the people of japan XD

I got 7th out of ~60! I got 1st in my pool, beat some really good players and ended up losing to a marth I play quite often (went pit against him, maybe I should have trusted my ike 'till the end)

Really proud atm.

Congrats man. Thats seriously impressive to do with ike!
looks like i have a lot of work to do to even consider myself a threat for best eu ike

 

[Ussi]

Don't forget about Rydle too GP

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I didnt say you were, i was talking directly to the people of japan XD

I don't think it applies to all of Japan.

 

[Heartstring]

Don't forget about Rydle too GP

He mains MK now. Apparently he hasnt used ike since he stopped being low tier. but it may have just been rumours

I don't think it applies to all of Japan.

Yeah, but hell it applied to them more than anywhere else

 

[Ussi]

I heard Rydle gave up MK cause he did better with mk

 

[RiverDB]

I heard Rydle gave up MK cause he did better with mk

Seems legit.
But seriously, Rydle did kind of gave up on MK because he does better with Ike, even though he sometimes uses MK(Last time was vs Death_Alex, who he lost to in tourney and later beat in a MM with Ike)

GP's stalker, out.

 

[Senliten]

I heard Rydle gave up MK cause he did better with mk

Resisting the power of the scrub character XD

Anywhom; I am officially not going to Kansas now it seems. Someone in the family decided to get their license taken away. All I know is she was in a holding cell and something about drugs once again, not sure if it was the friend or her this time, but I can kiss my shot at going with the old man to Kansas goodbye. Mostly because guess who has to drive her to work now, Numero Uno. Least it isn't to a school this time.

Sorry Mr. Doom, but I failed you

 

[Ussi]

Oops rofl I really meant he did better with Ike

Sucks sen, lets make it up with some Soku games :D when I'm not studying

 

[san.]

I would use other characters if they did better than my Ike but they don't.

 

[Ussi]

I have the most fun using Ike so I do best with him


Hey blubo, is there a results thread for the tourney you did well at?

 

[Teh Brettster]

I got 7th out of ~60! I got 1st in my pool, beat some really good players and ended up losing to a marth I play quite often (went pit against him, maybe I should have trusted my ike 'till the end)

Really proud atm.

Go for best Ike in Europe.
I want to see vids.

 

[Ussi]

blubo, i'm hyped to play you at Apex. I want to how EU ikes do it.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Just got back from /hope 4. Kinda did crappy in my first doubles tourney since.... like 2 1/2 years ago, but got 5th/34 in singles =D

Also, MK makes my brain hurt.

 

[Ussi]

Nice job BS! I wanna see the results thread to see your bracket

 

[M@v]

Congrats for beating me in bracket Berserker. You deserved it. You can bet I won't let you make the count between us go from 2-1 to 2-2 easily though. Until we meet in bracket next time, Melon and I shall continue meat riding the hell out of you :D

 

[Foodies]

Nice job BS! I wanna see the results thread to see your bracket

If you haven't found it already: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=315775

 

[Ussi]

wtf I got a whole page as an ad just now on smashboards -____-;; when did they add that? (using a public computer, so no ad block on)

 

[Blubolouis]

Haha thanks guys :D
Sadly there will be no vids of me. I kind of wish I had saved my set vs Myollnir, an ICs/PT main, but I was so stressed I didn't even think about it :/

@Ussi I'm hyped to play you as well. All of you guys, actually.
I don't think there's a tourney thread on swf; I managed to get my hands on the brackets though
http://img75.xooimage.com/files/0/8/1/mu8-2fce7ba.gif

@BS Good stuff!

Seem like this week-end was a good one for our character. I went to yet another, smaller tourney, this sunday. I got 5th out of ~25, losing to a DK (I definitly could have beaten him, but I think I took him lightly and it proved to be fatal) and Acid (him again).
I also got 2nd in teams at this tourney. I'll try to find the brackets for this one too.


And yeah, MK is a problem for me too... None of my characters/secondary make the cut against good MKs, and I still can't beat them with Ike :/ I'm working on it and training in the mu but apex might be painful on this regard.

 

[Ussi]

Blubo, you beat Myo? So you beat the ICs Leon had to go Peach on. I wanna see vids.


MK is impossible for Ike :|, but he's banned next ye- oh right you're in EU..

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I don't think he's impossible, he just takes way too much more thought than there should be for a video game. After a while, it's just draining my mental capacity. When I played TO Joe in winners without trying to come up with some decent plan to attack, I got wrecked. Did a whole lot better in losers, but that had to come after having played another MK @.@

 

[Teh Brettster]

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Where the heck did you...
oh, whatever.

 

[Heartstring]

Seems legit.
But seriously, Rydle did kind of gave up on MK because he does better with Ike, even though he sometimes uses MK(Last time was vs Death_Alex, who he lost to in tourney and later beat in a MM with Ike)

GP's stalker, out.

Oh wow, i have a stalker!

Haha thanks guys :D
Sadly there will be no vids of me. I kind of wish I had saved my set vs Myollnir, an ICs/PT main, but I was so stressed I didn't even think about it :/

@Ussi I'm hyped to play you as well. All of you guys, actually.
I don't think there's a tourney thread on swf; I managed to get my hands on the brackets though
http://img75.xooimage.com/files/0/8/1/mu8-2fce7ba.gif

@BS Good stuff!

Seem like this week-end was a good one for our character. I went to yet another, smaller tourney, this sunday. I got 5th out of ~25, losing to a DK (I definitly could have beaten him, but I think I took him lightly and it proved to be fatal) and Acid (him again).
I also got 2nd in teams at this tourney. I'll try to find the brackets for this one too.


And yeah, MK is a problem for me too... None of my characters/secondary make the cut against good MKs, and I still can't beat them with Ike :/ I'm working on it and training in the mu but apex might be painful on this regard.

My god, so many tournaments! we have like, maximum of 4 a year.

 

[Ussi]

I don't think he's impossible, he just takes way too much more thought than there should be for a video game. After a while, it's just draining my mental capacity. When I played TO Joe in winners without trying to come up with some decent plan to attack, I got wrecked. Did a whole lot better in losers, but that had to come after having played another MK @.@

No its impossible. bet you TO Joe just doesn't know the MU so he doesn't exploit Ike's flaws like MK can.

Where the heck did you...
oh, whatever.

Foodies is a metriod junior

 

[san.]

MK is bad, but not as bad as you're making it sound Ussi. You have to play a lot of keepaway.

Utilizing jab2 is a large niche in handling the MU I think.

 

[Ussi]

jab 2 spaced is amazing. How hard is it to punish a spaced jab 2?

 

[Heartstring]

jab 2 spaced is amazing. How hard is it to punish a spaced jab 2?

It's hard. I've yet to get punished for a spaced jab2....Catch is that rather than moving away after the jab2 i have a god-forsaken habit of doing the final hit instead and getting punished for that

 

[theeboredone]

jab 2 spaced is amazing. How hard is it to punish a spaced jab 2?

With MK?

Tornado

 

[san.]

Jab2 is just about as fast as jab1 with a lot more range. It just has less combo ability but that makes up for leading into jab3 anyways (and jab1 if close enough and buffered properly but unlikely when spaced).


Thing about jab 2 is that there are many variations to using it, since it comes after the first jab and there are some hit confirmations to keep track of.

Uses of Jab2:

-Punishes short hops
-trades/clanks with everything
-jab1/3 followups
-very good if well timed after hitting with jab1


Getting jab2 to come out:

Unless you hit someone, you have to time jab2 manually for it to come out faster, otherwise jab2 will come out a little later. If you don't jab cancel, you can get jab2 to come out pretty late in the animation of jab1.

Spacing with jab1 will let you know when jab2 is okay. Don't jab2 shields unless the tip of the kick would hit the shield. If you think the opponent will dash, jump, or if you can pressure shield/shieldpoke, it is okay to throw out.


Followups after jab1:

Jab1 has a lot more combo potential. Since jab1 combos into itself, you know you have much more time to choose when to throw out jab2.

Delayed jab2 after jab1 keeps them in your jab range longer. If you delay it a few frames after it really combos, you can take away an opponent's jump, which then makes them a punching bag.

If someone dodges your jab2 after you hit them with jab1, be cautious because both of you would essentially be in a neutral position at that point.


If jab1 misses:

Be on the lookout for whether you should jab1 again (spaced on shield or enemy far away), shield, dash away, or retreating aerial in addition to jab2. Jab2 is wise against opponents who like to dash, SH aerial, and jump out of shield preemptively.

If jab2 misses:

This is a little harder than the above. Jab2 has a little bit more lag. You can hold A to revert back to jab1 with a small combat walk. You can also perform any of the defensive options described above.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

TO Joe did gimp me with Dairs galore on my first stock. He does know what he's doing. He did say he specifically doesn't know the Ike MU, but he wasn't just going willy-nilly.

 

[Ussi]

Jab2 is just about as fast as jab1 with a lot more range. It just has less combo ability but that makes up for leading into jab3 anyways (and jab1 if close enough and buffered properly but unlikely when spaced).


Thing about jab 2 is that there are many variations to using it, since it comes after the first jab and there are some hit confirmations to keep track of.

Uses of Jab2:

-Punishes short hops
-trades/clanks with everything
-jab1/3 followups
-very good if well timed after hitting with jab1


Getting jab2 to come out:

Unless you hit someone, you have to time jab2 manually for it to come out faster, otherwise jab2 will come out a little later. If you don't jab cancel, you can get jab2 to come out pretty late in the animation of jab1.

Spacing with jab1 will let you know when jab2 is okay. Don't jab2 shields unless the tip of the kick would hit the shield. If you think the opponent will dash, jump, or if you can pressure shield/shieldpoke, it is okay to throw out.


Followups after jab1:

Jab1 has a lot more combo potential. Since jab1 combos into itself, you know you have much more time to choose when to throw out jab2.

Delayed jab2 after jab1 keeps them in your jab range longer. If you delay it a few frames after it really combos, you can take away an opponent's jump, which then makes them a punching bag.

If someone dodges your jab2 after you hit them with jab1, be cautious because both of you would essentially be in a neutral position at that point.


If jab1 misses:

Be on the lookout for whether you should jab1 again (spaced on shield or enemy far away), shield, dash away, or retreating aerial in addition to jab2. Jab2 is wise against opponents who like to dash, SH aerial, and jump out of shield preemptively.

If jab2 misses:

This is a little harder than the above. Jab2 has a little bit more lag. You can hold A to revert back to jab1 with a small combat walk. You can also perform any of the defensive options described above.

this is going into the Ike guide right now