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that would be leon...a dude i lost to in pools at a euro tourney
With that fsmash is it a backwards or forward fsmash? I need to know more about ICs MU with Ike cause I played with someone who was all grabs and once he grabbed me, I was done for.
I began to pick up on his playstyle after a bit, and whenever he rushed in, I grabbed him when he threw up shield. That's where I started seperating them, and the stock began falling into my favor. I was able to do a lot after I got a grab on him. I tried not to pummel too much, just throw and try to keep the other one away. That way, if he did manage to grab me, more times than none, I'd have one offstage and he'd have to get rid of me quickly with a throw before I broke free. I almost got a Dair spike when he threw me offstage and the CPU IC happened to be right below me. I should use the platforms a lot more, especially since I played him on SV the most. I won on my BF CP in our pools set. Maybe I should take into account how hard I can punish the following climber. I normally Bthrow one climber > Jab to disrupt any punishes the main climber tries to get me with, unless he's shielding, then I'm more likely to just grab him.
^ All of this. I try to wait on an opening and plan what I'm going to do next. I was able to bait an Up air when he was below me and I was on BF's platform, which I was able to punish him for, severely, ultimately killing the second Ice Climber. Camping platforms is not bad. It is much better than trying to stay away from grabs on the ground. Now on BF, PC > grab is a different story. I haven't seen it yet, but the thought of it is scary for me. Kinda makes me feel like banning SV, now.
Yeah, I knew that. If I grab the lead, I don't waste time when it comes to punishing the second. I make sure I at least do some damage, if not KO one. If I happen to grab the second, I throw either away from the lead, or I dthrow. The second IC sucks when it comes to getting out of the air by itself. I score easy KOs are like, 80+ by using Uair as a follow-up. If the lead tries to punish you, Jab is a really good option to keep him out.
And this.
I didn't know that pummel could be used like that, although I knew of this property. I don't think I grab enough in this MU, if I should? I found myself camping on the side of SV awaiting any shielding approaches he attempted so that I could grab him instead. I loved to jab cancel against the ICs in my set. The second climber takes Jab > almost anything when she's desynch from the lead. It's what I tried to keep for the longest.
I play Wifi as well D: I seldom use Ike online, since I enjoy dabbling with Jigglypuff and Toon Link so much more. Mad I couldn't see you at this >:V 120$ on gas? Where were you coming from? :o
I don't know how seeding works tbh, but I 2-0'd everyone in my pool apart from a MK who 2-0'd instead (gotta work on that too :/)Bored said:
My expression on the first two stocks:
You only need 1 grab on ICs to get this, just like them for you. It should be a mixup to spacing aerials, if you predict they'll try to dash shield towards you, you can intercept them with a dash+shield standing grab.
Yep. Our Fair and Bair beat literally everything ICs can safely do off-stage, plus they can't really do anything to gimp us. Get them separated and/or off-stage a lot and the match is yours as long as you don't mess up punishes. But really, just pay attention to your spacing and don't fall for baits. It's a relatively easy match-up IMO.
yeah, don't you just know it. this is probably why i keep my r.o.b unrusted, cause i can just go rob '08 and it works just fine
In theory yes, but most (if not all) IC mains aren't gonna manage to pull off the CG perfectly zero-death very often, let alone every time. You've usually got plenty more chances than two, but it isn't too hard to avoid their grab anyways.
