Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[RiverDB]

Yes Ussi, Zude is known as the best Yoshi of europe en potencially one of the best in the world.
*sigh*, to bad i've only played him over wifi

 

[Blubolouis]

Ussi>yep, I'd even say the yoshi player but that'd reveal my fanboyism.

Some vids are already up :D i'll go post em in the critique thread.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Hm. When I think THE Yoshi player, I think Poltergust. Because of him, I'm not too confident in the Yoshi match-up anymore.
I mean, he's like none other that -I've- played, at least.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

Hey Sen which do you prefer?
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2451/dciianzu3.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8113/dciianzu2large.jpg

Dunno why, but I'm liking this route. :3

 

[theeboredone]

Poltergust is without a doubt the best Yoshi player in the U.S. I don't know who this European one is, but it's always good to watch videos of other good players.

And why would someone be a fanboy to a Yoshi main? It's freakin Yoshi.

Wow Jam, I swear, everyday the Ike boards become less manly. Forget about us even being in contention. I give up. Ganon, Snake, and Falcon mains, have at it.

 

[disasterABDUL]

Poltergust is without a doubt the best Yoshi player in the U.S. I don't know who this European one is, but it's always good to watch videos of other good players.

And why would someone be a fanboy to a Yoshi main? It's freakin Yoshi.

Wow Jam, I swear, everyday the Ike boards become less manly. Forget about us even being in contention. I give up. Ganon, Snake, and Falcon mains, have at it.

Zudenka playing yami

zudenka is really good. the only yoshi player i've played is scatz

 

[Ussi]

Hey Sen Ussi which do you prefer?
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2451/dciianzu3.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8113/dciianzu2large.jpg

Dunno why, but I'm liking this route. :3

The bottom one wins

 

[Heartstring]

Poltergust is without a doubt the best Yoshi player in the U.S. I don't know who this European one is, but it's always good to watch videos of other good players.

And why would someone be a fanboy to a Yoshi main? It's freakin Yoshi.

Wow Jam, I swear, everyday the Ike boards become less manly. Forget about us even being in contention. I give up. Ganon, Snake, and Falcon mains, have at it.

yeah, all the loli's everywhere are lowering the testosterone
...
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/ph...an-dr-ivo-robotnik-eggman-7148655-386-613.jpg

 

[jamlosingthegame]

Bored wants some of this?

 

[disasterABDUL]

i was just about to start watching FMA brotherhood
freaky >_>

 

[theeboredone]

Wow, is he the Red-X of Yoshis? Dude was flying all over the place.

 

[Blubolouis]

I think I'll watch some vids vids of poltergust, yoshi's fun to watch *.*

Bored> ?? XD what's with Red-X 's Ike that makes him the zudenka of ike?

 

[-RedX-]

I move a lot. With aggression out of the ***.

 

[bigman40]

Zudenka playing yami

zudenka is really good. the only yoshi player i've played is scatz

Indirect namesearch **** >.>

 

[disasterABDUL]

Fedex: A jack of all trades

 

[disasterABDUL]

Indirect namesearch **** >.>

i'm too good

 

[Blubolouis]

Red-X>ooh I'm gonna look you up on youtube, I want to play as fast and agressive as ike can

 

[-RedX-]

Red-X>ooh I'm gonna look you up on youtube, I want to play as fast and agressive as ike can

I'd rather play similar to San. lolsig vvv

 

[san.]

I can play fast if I try to play fast, too =)

I don't like it when other people play similar to me (against me). Some of the tactics I usually use are very annoying.

 

[Heartstring]

I can play fast if I try to play fast, too =)

I don't like it when other people play similar to me (against me). Some of the tactics I usually use are very annoying.

like what?
no seriously, its hard to spot mindgames adn stuff as a 3rd person except from hard read which normally involve fsmash

 

[Ussi]

san makes Ike's jab more annoying than it already is.

 

[san.]

I know when you be losing that double jump, among other things XD. I play similar to Kimchi and RedX mostly. Probably a NY/NJ thing.

 

[disasterABDUL]

I can play fast if I try to play fast, too =)

I don't like it when other people play similar to me (against me). Some of the tactics I usually use are very annoying.

i kind of want to make this my sig

 

[theeboredone]

It's not good to play fast if you're gonna mess up and make plenty of mistakes. In my opinion, start out slow, learn to read your opponents, and then pick up the pace all the while maintaining the ability to read. With practice, it should get easier. I never enjoy players who play fast. They think they are hard to read, but really, they mess themselves up when they leave themselves open so many times in the match.

 

[Blubolouis]

Eh, I know it's out of my league, for now I just concentrate on what works and what I can get away with. But my theoritical goal is to do this + make people think "this ike is fast"

and I know fast =/= good, dunno what's with that lol

 

[Brother_Yokum]

I like to rush in, rack some quick damage, and retreat /repeat. In just about any fighting game, though when I'm not focusing I rush too much.

 

[Ussi]

I think playing fast is the most effective playstyle in winning. However, that ia ultimately a player vs player aspect. You have to play fast while not being readable, as in, outpace the opponent. Force a mistake from making him think too fast as if its at his pace, he can think more clearly.

 

[theeboredone]

^ I'm probably one of the slowest Ike mains around, and I'm better off compared to a lot of people. Defense wins championships. Notice how in the finals and what not, people camp and slow down a lot.

 

[Ussi]

Game 4 in winner's finals at SiiS4, was pretty fast. M2Q just outpaced Al1y (avoiding namesearch) the entire game.

Granted the games before there were indeed slow... M2Q was just learning habits before exploiting them such that in game 4.



But.. playing slow isn't a bad thing either.. if the game is going at your pace, then you are at the advantage. Fast or slow, its a player thing at who can keep it going at their pace better.


actually now i sound contradictory, scratch what i said about fast being more effective.

 

[Senliten]

The bottom one wins

Usii pretty much said what I would have said if my power was not out for the whole day today.
Effing winter storm BS <_<

@MainDiscussion: Fast Ike only cause I can actually pull it off when the matches are not dittos.

 

[theeboredone]

Not enough testosterone right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITx4-w0WxQ

 

[Teh Brettster]

I play fast Ike when I have momentum, because I can pull it off. I play slow Ike when I don't have momentum, because that's sort of silly sometimes.
Bada bing.

About what Bored said concerning building up to a faster Ike. It's true.

Also, San's "annoying" tactic? FF AD --> jab. Jab instead of defending.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

Not enough testosterone right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITx4-w0WxQ

One of the ones that had me and my brother going: "WTF?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAsAdjTGrw

Enough now for you bored?

 

[theeboredone]

Much better.

I do think it's stupid for people to play fast to no avail. Some characters are designed to play slow or fast. For example, most Diddy players play a fast flashy game, while Olimars are campy and defensive. I think with Ike, we have a lot to think about it depending on the opponent we face. I'd rather be defensive and reading a DDD then rushing in and risking getting CG'ed. Same time, say against Falco...you really gonna sit back and let him laser you?

Brett brought up a good point on momentum. Personally, I like to come out strong, and if I'm sending my opponent everywhere, I keep going. If I get the death, I play defensive, because I KNOW my opponent wants to kill me, so he'll be a bit more reckless. This is the perfect opportunity to rack up what I call, "extra damage". Hit him for 40-60% before you die, and you're in good shape.

Overall though, if you're gonna play a fast speedy game, make sure you know the ins and outs of Ike, which come through experience and practice. I still can't play fast on a consistent basis, because I'm left open to too many attacks, and I feel like I wear myself out, leaving me unable to read. I feel like my process is more relying on instincts and trying to break through the opponent, rather then adjusting and doing what actually needs to be done.

 

[Heartstring]

yeah same, the brawl metagame plays relatively similar to that of the american football metagame, by that i mean that momentum is a big thing, it would be the best reasoning behind how commonly reverse 3-stocks happen (comparatively, they really shouldnt happen at all) if you get in and start doing damage, the opponent is instantly on the defensive and wanting to get back into theire personal safe zone again. which is probably why FFAD to jab is so annoying, as very few people would expect it
i should apply some of the stuff i say to my actual gameplay, i really should XD

 

[jamlosingthegame]

i should apply some of the stuff i say to my actual gameplay, i really should XD

I do too GP.

I don't really think much about how I play. I think it's mostly try to get the first hit in and keep the momentum, otherwise stay defensive (which doesn't really help me at all since I tend to be a spotdodge fanatic). I actually have no idea, but maybe you guys have a better idea of describing how I play based on the biweeklies.

 

[Heartstring]

I do too GP.

I don't really think much about how I play. I think it's mostly try to get the first hit in and keep the momentum, otherwise stay defensive (which doesn't really help me at all since I tend to be a spotdodge fanatic). I actually have no idea, but maybe you guys have a better idea of describing how I play based on the biweeklies.

i think thats general ike things, but i problem i have when i play at tournaments is that ill get the first hit in, knock them away, and then go back into a shell, and if im fighting someone like falcon, by the time i reach them again theyve already done more damage in lasers/phantasm than i did with my last hit. so its a vicious circle really

 

[theeboredone]

I do too GP.

I don't really think much about how I play. I think it's mostly try to get the first hit in and keep the momentum, otherwise stay defensive (which doesn't really help me at all since I tend to be a spotdodge fanatic). I actually have no idea, but maybe you guys have a better idea of describing how I play based on the biweeklies.

The first step to cut that habit of spot dodging is to constantly play a match while not relying on instincts. You will constantly be telling yourself, don't spot dodge, don't spot dodge. The more you apply it, the more natural it will become.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

The first step to cut that habit of spot dodging is to constantly play a match while not relying on instincts. You will constantly be telling yourself, don't spot dodge, don't spot dodge. The more you apply it, the more natural it will become.

Me and Ussi were playing once with no shield buttons. You think that could help a bit?

 

[theeboredone]

I suppose, but it's not necessarily telling yourself actively not to spot dodge. As soon as that button goes active, you know it, he knows it, so you may just revert back.