NO LYNCH 2 VICTOLY ok??????
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My responses are underlined.If you don't believe what I've claimed a very simple way to prove it false is to vote me out. If I am indeed mafia then you got a two for one. If not, you have a player who has been proven town. Very very simple.
If you're town, then you think that it's better to waste a lynch proving you innocent (at which point it won't matter) than to just claim your role?
As a side note, I am not going to claim a role for the reasons I mentioned earlier in the game, role claiming yields no information and can be, in this situation, easily falsified. If feel If I claim a role it will open doors to more people doing the same. I don't this the town community is experienced enough to handle looking at role the way I do.
Role claiming yields no information? It proves your role... And it can be easily falsified? "Spam isn't mafia, I know because I have a role that isn't cop but I know, trust me." There is irony here. The reason I want you to claim is because I don't believe that your half-claim was real. If you claim something like Mason, for example, somebody can counterclaim you if they are really a mason and you lied. If nobody counter claims, you are more or less proven to have that role. A claim can not be easily falsified.
Handorian, believe me... I'm just as sad as you are.
KevinM is pulling my suspicions at the moment. At the beginning of the game he was quick to call for a mass name claim, but after being confronted about it he quickly called it an obvious joke post; now, again, he is asking for roles since he seems so adamant about finding roles knowing how useless they are to the town I'm convinced he is mafia or some independent that gains a big advantage from knowledge of them.
Vote: KevinM
Unfortunately thats all I've seen so far this game that seems very very out of place, spare Eor who is always out of place and very hard to read.
What prompted this, and stem cells?I wish some body organs weren't obvious on what they do. But looking at the list, stem cells is something i wouldn't expect to see there. But thinking about the properties about it, i guess the only thing they can do is revive a dead person. That's really all stem cells do, is change into other cells.
I'm not going to push for a claim any more, but I certainly can't fully trust your information. Now, I just want to address your reasons that claiming is bad.I'm not asking you to trust me. In fact I am saying if you feel what I am saying is false to vote me out since that is the only possible proof.
But lets continue with your logic regardless, I will prove why it is wrong and meta gaming is bad.
1. There may be more than one mason role, there may in fact be multiple cops and doctors, no where in the rules is it said there has to be one, another inherent problem in role claiming.
2. Having someone counter claim forces them to reveal who they are and their role, this is not beneficial to the town. espeacially if point one is true.
3. No one is guaranteed to counter claim because as we all know role claiming espeacially important roles like cop, doctor, ect. day two is not an intelligent move, even if the initial person to claim was mafia.
4. There is the possibility of a mafia player counter claiming a player who was truthful which may yield incorrect results.
Do these points make sense to you lombardi?
I was wondering the same thing. But to be honest though, I doubt we have stem cells as playable characters. Organs, tissues, body systems (like the circulatory system) and bones are probably all of the role choices. I doubt that anybody would actually be a cell.What prompted this, and stem cells?
Through use of my night ability, which is not the cops alignment check ability, I have discovered Spam_Master is not mafia. If you have doubts with my claim feel free to lynch me, the result will only go on to prove my and his alignment.
If there are no doubts lets continue to days activities with less focus on him at least.
So, basically, you just said that it could be all to real that you are lying?...4. There is the possibility of a mafia player counter claiming a player who was truthful which may yield incorrect results...
Yes, omg, yes. Thats exactly what I'm saying and what I've been saying. It is up to you to determine how you take what I said. If you feel I am lying to you then I urge you to simply vote for me since doing so proves my innocents, other wise lets continue. I hate being stuck on very simple topics when very little action is required to move.So, basically, you just said that it could be all to real that you are lying?
Mods love to make Eor mafia. Seeing that he's only been town about a bull**** five times over two years, and that he's mafia/indy more often that he is town, that really wasn't impressive at all.(btw, my educated guess about the two mafia in tomafia was right about eor.)
Lol, camo that was the log the even part, the first part. Thanks though, and the quote button is even easier than copy and past dude.Keep in mind later until something else comes up with a relationship to this
fix'd. =)
Back from vacation
Im sorry Ussi, but can you please clarify what you are talking about to me? =) looking at what list? why stem cells?I wish some body organs weren't obvious on what they do. But looking at the list, stem cells is something i wouldn't expect to see there. But thinking about the properties about it, i guess the only thing they can do is revive a dead person. That's really all stem cells do, is change into other cells.
Marshigio seems to be entirely too tunnel visioned in his expression here. Unlike Tom and others who listed an array of viable explanations, Marshigio, only about an hour after the start of the day, posts what is seemingly all that came to his mind regarding the possibilities of what had happened at night. Perhaps the explanation for this is that he is mafia, knows exactly what happened, and immediately decided it was necessary to implant such a tunnel visioned idea in the public eye. Nightkilling an inactive would have left the town with almost as little information come day two as simply not killing anyone would have. He seems all too convinced that the mafia did not perform their kill, which his central reasoning for this is "Pythag is a weird choice."Guess the mafia went with the no nightkill route last evening, probably to let the town run around with as little info as possible. Or they were roleblocked or docblocked, but eh.
Sorry for the cult leader, one of the more interesting roles.
Perhaps Mashigio is entirely convinced of his reaosning here as a legitimate townie, however this seems like flimsy, wishy washy non-committal arguing that an indecisive mafia might use to half assedly back ideas he'd like to be accepted without being too confrontational. He seems to be pusing for a kind of passive acceptance of his stance.You mean inactives and lurkers? Generally, townies who don't add much to the discussion help the mafia out, so I can see why they wouldn't mind keeping them around for a bit.
I gave three different ideas in that post, so no clue what you're going on about when it comes to tunnelvision. Two of them include the mafia using the nightkill. Yeah, I could give more ideas as to what happened, but I posted what I thought was more likely. Don't get how that's suspicious.Marshigio seems to be entirely too tunnel visioned in his expression here. Unlike Tom and others who listed an array of viable explanations, Marshigio, only about an hour after the start of the day, posts what is seemingly all that came to his mind regarding the possibilities of what had happened at night. Perhaps the explanation for this is that he is mafia, knows exactly what happened, and immediately decided it was necessary to implant such a tunnel visioned idea in the public eye.Guess the mafia went with the no nightkill route last evening, probably to let the town run around with as little info as possible. Or they were roleblocked or docblocked, but eh.
Sorry for the cult leader, one of the more interesting roles.
Perhaps Mashigio is entirely convinced of his reaosning here as a legitimate townie, however this seems like flimsy, wishy washy non-committal arguing that an indecisive mafia might use to half assedly back ideas he'd like to be accepted without being too confrontational. He seems to be pusing for a kind of passive acceptance of his stance.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to make anyone swallow anything. "Pushing" is not a 2 sentence post explaining why the mafia might use certain methods.You mean inactives and lurkers? Generally, townies who don't add much to the discussion help the mafia out, so I can see why they wouldn't mind keeping them around for a bit.
Sure. Then again, keeping a bunch of inactives around would stall the town from bouncing ideas around during the day and voting people. Which is why I think the mafia may not have killed Pythag, who was indeed inactive while this happened.Regarding inactives and lurkers, yes, they do help the mafia, but it's not their being in the game that helps exactly. The reason why they help the mafia is that they provide the mafia with risk free night kill fodder. It is because they are inactive that the mafia can kill them without hesitation or fear of reprimand, because they have behaviors to trace or draw conclusions from. Keeping inactives alive doesn't help the mafia. They simply aid the mafia by acting as stallers to prevent information from being gather from nightkills.
No clue what I'm talking about? Sorry bro but just because two other possibilities of their doesn't mean they were presented equally. You first present the idea that the mafia did not nightkill as your conclusion. The other two possibilities are CLEARLY represented as an afterthought. THAT's what's suspicious. The way you worded that post it is clear that you favored for first proposition with no evidence to explain it. This supports my notion which you've managed to sweep to the side that such a decision could likely be reached as a result of direct involvement with night activity and the desire to dismiss such an activity immediately.I gave three different ideas in that post, so no clue what you're going on about when it comes to tunnelvision. Two of them include the mafia using the nightkill. Yeah, I could give more ideas as to what happened, but I posted what I thought was more likely. Don't get how that's suspicious. I'm not trying to make anyone swallow anything. "Pushing" is not a 2 sentence post explaining why the mafia might use certain methods.Sure. Then again, keeping a bunch of inactives around would stall the town from bouncing ideas around during the day and voting people. Which is why I think the mafia may not have killed Pythag, who was indeed inactive while this happened.
Also, you probably noticed I didn't respond to every single part of your post. I did it since I'd be forced to repeat myself, and the different quotes went hand in hand, so I'd just respond to one. If you want a response to the other stuff just say so and point 'em out, though I think I covered everything.