Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
Yeah, kk has it. I just tend to break the neutral position first, and sometimes it doesn't work and then I die.
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
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KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Just death combo yourself and you'll win
Ganon has no answer to Ganon
Ganon has no answer to Ganon
lol. i never play his samus either but i suck at the matchup for some reason so maybe thats why..
yeah he said your ganon is mad technical and he was impressed especially since you took 3 stocks off sfat in crews
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
Lol I was so confused when I came out of that match still feeling good about life. One of those stocks was an sd, but still, those 3 stocks were kinda huge for the crew. We were very close to forcing mango out of bed, but wobbles clutched out our peaches :-(
haha 3 stocks is still legit. but now he wants me to do it at the Big House 2...lol
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
What take 3 stocks off sfat, or just be in his crew?
Either way just waveland places and fair. If sfat is hung over enough he'll run into it enough for you to take some stocks.
Either way just waveland places and fair. If sfat is hung over enough he'll run into it enough for you to take some stocks.
RaphaelRobo
Smash Champion
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Do you guys really think the Samus matchup is boring? I've been playing it with a guy in the hall (who consistently beats me), and I think it's a lot of fun. Plus, powershielding missiles is cool.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Bliu you lurk this thread so hard but I've never seen you post until now.....who you be?
Also I decided I'm going to become super technical and that I'm going to use Green/neutral Ganondorf from now on. Sorry mark.
Also I decided I'm going to become super technical and that I'm going to use Green/neutral Ganondorf from now on. Sorry mark.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Samus is boring if
(1) your character is bad at throwing her into the air and keeping her there
(2) your character lacks an answer to crouch, shield, and WD back in tandem
(1) your character is bad at throwing her into the air and keeping her there
(2) your character lacks an answer to crouch, shield, and WD back in tandem
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Word up, always nice to see Ganondorf players, we're a dying breed lol keep it real out there and show tristate what's good 
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Divinokage
Smash Legend
It's fine dude, you got me, gg. =)
Ace, I never think I have won a set just because I 3 stocked someone one game. I always take it very seriously every game like my life is on the line.. if I played bad one set because of tech skill errors or bad decisions then it's on me.. and that happens to everybody even the best players in the world. It's up to the opponent to pick up on that and punish him for making these mistakes. I think LE did very well this set, he made some ballsy reads, I liked it.
Also I beat the **** out of Kels, my tournament was complete after that. lol. j/k
You destroyed Kels? Most excellent indeed
Also, Nite is notorious for destroying Ganons...it's actually makes me a little sad.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Ya for me it was a pretty convincing win, revenge is so sweet. Everyone was saying I'm going to get owned because he got too good vs Falcon/Ganon but I turned that around very well. =DYou destroyed Kels? Most excellent indeed
Also, Nite is notorious for destroying Ganons...it's actually makes me a little sad.
All my pool matches except vs Darkrain was pretty awesome. I almost even took Mango's Fox to game 5, that's how good I was playing overall. The reason why i didn't get a chance to take him to game 5 was because i killed myself at 0 on my last stock while he was also at 0 last stock. I think i edgeguarded his last stock and then I think I thought I could've wavedash back on stage or something or I think i mispressed R button and died. I was like ****kkkkk. lol.
Renth
Smash Hero
It's fine, I'll claim blue ganon for myself.Bliu you lurk this thread so hard but I've never seen you post until now.....who you be?
Also I decided I'm going to become super technical and that I'm going to use Green/neutral Ganondorf from now on. Sorry mark.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Reminds me of Linguini vs Plup, lol
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Gotem City Vigilante
Chris, when will you be back in wilmington?
I'm prob. headed for NY in a few days... and I'll be there till late november.
I'm prob. headed for NY in a few days... and I'll be there till late november.
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Gotem City Vigilante
Random, and double post, but... I must ask you, sveet...
Any new thoughts on the Ganon matchup after playing kage?
still cake for marth? lol. I actually think marth wins like 60/40 (or almost that, 58/42? lol) so I agree with you, but I was curious if playing the top ganon changed your outlook at all.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Like **** you will.
When I finally meet you, we're gonna have a best 3/5 for right to claim blue ganon as their own... hopefully I'll be good by then
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Gotem City Vigilante
Beware... Renth knows the ultimate secret to Ganon dittos....
RPD
RPD
Hey Pseudo. Did you get to play against Arby? Or Arbustos? He's my crew mate. I just wondered what you thought about it or if you even got to play him. I think he was in your pool. Also, my boy VTS 2-0'd Hax in pools! Arkansas Smash right there fellas!Like **** you will.
When I finally meet you, we're gonna have a best 3/5 for right to claim blue ganon as their own... hopefully I'll be good by then
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Didn't change my view at all. Kage did things that "shouldn't work" but because I hadn't seen them (that was the only marth vs ganon we played all weekend) they worked.
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Gotem City Vigilante
Eh, I mean he's a pretty reactive and adaptive player.. in many instances, he may have only gone for a move because he saw he could get away with it at the time. I also kinda feel like you either know what to expect from ganon or you don't...
Fortress | Sveet
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no he was just not respecting my space. I was trying to cut corners in certain places by simply threatening and doing something "safe" and he was just ignoring the threat and hitting me
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Gotem City Vigilante
I hear you...
gotta MAKE him respect that space!
gotta MAKE him respect that space!
Geenareeno
Smash Lord
I think this statement sums up how Kage beats a lot of top players.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Yea I did actually! hes pretty good. He beat me in pools i remember, like 2-1 or something, VERY close matches, lots of fun. I was kinda salty especially since I won the majority of our friendlies afterwards lol, tourney nerves johns I guess. But he definiely outplayed me fair and square, good stuff to him.
If you ever come to chicago or SMYM, we gotta play sometime. My ganon is becoming almost as wavelandy as yours
EDIT: my bad, I'm thinking of a different dude. We still went 2-1, but arby actually beat me in the majority of our friendlies.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Against Kage you just have to hit him. With any character.
Renth
Smash Hero
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Gotem City Vigilante
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Gotem City Vigilante
I feel like this is true, and Kage just gets in many players' heads and makes it really hard to hit him... he makes them feel unsafe. Intimidation factor? I dunno but seriously, I've seen like 90% of all Ganon vids out there, probably all of kage's... and sometimes I still look at kage's vids and I'm like, how did he just do that? Not that he did anything special, I guess it's more like "how on earth did that work in that particular instance?" or "how did he get away with that right then?" lol. Aside from good spacing he definitely is smart about his move choice, often being 1-2 steps ahead of his opponent (which is basically the max for Ganon lol).
Btw, KK, you're the only sheik main allowed in here. You should feel privileged.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
"It's a game we play. She hates cats and tries to keep me out, but she can't, of course. I come and go as I please."
But for real... Kage's playstyle and its success vs people who are supposed to be better than him, smarter than him, etc. has a lot to do with how good he is at controlling the box and how well he feeds off momentum. He's also a master cherry picker
If you want to beat Kage, you're best playing a style that exploits all of why Ganon is bad in such a way that the hits and exchanges are decisive. Minimize risk while maximizing damage and keep Ganon in situations where he has little room for player skill to interfere with your plan and give him outs that don't exist.
This all sounds very vague lol. But I assure you it works and makes sense. It's basically why Kage will not go to game 5 in set with Armada (right now, anyway) but might against someone like Mango.
But for real... Kage's playstyle and its success vs people who are supposed to be better than him, smarter than him, etc. has a lot to do with how good he is at controlling the box and how well he feeds off momentum. He's also a master cherry picker
If you want to beat Kage, you're best playing a style that exploits all of why Ganon is bad in such a way that the hits and exchanges are decisive. Minimize risk while maximizing damage and keep Ganon in situations where he has little room for player skill to interfere with your plan and give him outs that don't exist.
This all sounds very vague lol. But I assure you it works and makes sense. It's basically why Kage will not go to game 5 in set with Armada (right now, anyway) but might against someone like Mango.
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Gotem City Vigilante
I'm sure it sounds vague to a lot of ppl, but I hear you loud and clear. He really does feed off momentum well... darkrain`esque. By cherry picker, you mean squeezing out those winning exchanges by barely having better spacing, or shield pokes, I'm guessing?
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Well I like players that actually try to hit me, it gives me tons of opportunities to hit them back.
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Gotem City Vigilante
Committing to something (namely an approach) is the first risk any player makes...
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Gotem City Vigilante
Finally....
... the Dark Lord can be stylish AND have enough room for his third leg.
After all.....
... the Dark Lord can be stylish AND have enough room for his third leg.
After all.....
Fortress | Sveet
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But its so much fun when I'm comboing you and you have no options! How you got out of the Ken Combo, though, is beyond me