Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread

[G. Vice]

Ah what the hell? I'll $MM your falcon. I'm semi confident in that awful matchup.

Lets make it for 100






...pennies

Kage's falcon is aight...


I think I remember 2-0'ing it in our set

 

[PseudoTurtle]

Kage's falcon is aight...


I think I remember 2-0'ing it in our set

Hahaha good stuff dude. Although Pseudo does not equal G. Vice.

Damn Idk why I even took this $MM now lol. A couple days ago I was playing the best I've ever played. Reading, baiting, and actively adapting for the first time ever. Now I'm back to sucking. So frustrating! prepare yourself Kage. Cuz I'm gonna be practicing until I reach that level again!

 

[HoChiMinhTrail]

Hey congrats on starting college dude! You're gonna have a **** load of fun.

Make sure to smash with the people at your school, that's how you're gonna get better.

What school are you at?

also make sure to make out with a drunk girl or 2

YOLO

 

[Ripple]

also make sure to make out with a drunk girl or 2

YOLO
Abduct a princess or 2

GANON

Fixed that for you

 

[Strong Badam]

So it looks like it's gonna be Me & BlackChris vs. Ripple & PsuedoTurtle $10 MM.
Let's 2-0 these foos, Chris
>=)

 

[Bl@ckChris]

Consider it done.

Playing with trail tonight to be ready for things. Traveling is awesome.

 

[Geenareeno]

See to it that it gets recorded.

 

[Divinokage]

Kage's falcon is aight...


I think I remember 2-0'ing it in our set

A lot can happen in one year after this.

 

[G. Vice]

A lot can happen in one year after this.

You're not the only one who can make improvements

Lol, I'd like to try it again to be honest.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Three sheiks and Shroomed in my pool for FC. Wish me luck.

When you land a grab because they're flailing around with terrible spacing, just do the CG to death (or as close to death as convenient or possible). I think bair (in all its forms) is your best move vs her (unless she's SHing with needles or fair) because of how her body works and how her movement style operates. It always feels much harder to blatantly disrespect Ganon when he just bairs a lot and then uses high-hitting attacks when I try to go around it (uair, f-tilt, etc). I also think weird, efficient movement is really important vs her because she doesn't cover much ground when she jumps and the attacks she has that cover a lot of ground are really laggy. I don't think fair is that good vs Sheik unless she's already lost her footing, is above you on a platform, or is shaken up.

When Sheik poofs onto a platform do you guys ever up smash her? I usually go on the platforms vs Ganon to force really good timing on his behalf if he wants to get his precious throw and at KO percents it puts me higher in the air so I have more space to drift with to get back but I was thinking you guys can just up smash me through the platform and I'd be higher up so the vertical KO percent would be a bit lower than if you hit me normally... what's the timing window like on something like that? Would you need to ledgedash into it if I went deep? Is there some cheesy nonsense with the dual hit where if I shield or buffer sidestep the second hit will catch me as I'm falling off the platform or during the cooldown?

I really like his up smash so when I fool around with him in casuals I want to implement it more whenever possible.

 

[Divinokage]

Well Dair also works from that position I think and is probably slightly faster than starting a usmash, I'm not even sure you have enough time to do that, at worst I can try in tournament if that situation comes up. lol. I guess you would have to predict that Sheik is going on the platform before she does but then you may get hit by the poof if you go for it too early. Idk.. seems like a tight situation.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Mess around with it in some friendlies and then tell me your findings Mr. Warrior.

 

[Divinokage]

Mess around with it in some friendlies and then tell me your findings Mr. Warrior.

If I ever fight some Sheiks sure. =P It's definitely my worst match-up.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I Faired a Sheik out of poof yesterday. It was fun.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

 

[KirbyKaze]

If I ever fight some Sheiks sure. =P It's definitely my worst match-up.

Out of curiosity, what Sheiks do you lose to aside from M2K and me?

 

[Divinokage]

I lost to Ice's Sheik in a MM before, I lost to Tope before. Well Vwins/Bam Sheik can beat me too lol.. but I just barely fight Sheiks anymore in tournament, it's all ****ing spacies.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

I'm from Florida and since we have no good Sheiks here, I never get Sheik practice.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

We don't have any good Sheik's in NC. Aside from Chris.

 

[LoOshKiN]

I used to be good or decent at the sheik matchup. I even liked it at one point.
Now I'm terribly rusty.

Also,Eikelmann, I hear you play guilty gear

 

[-ACE-]

Dude there are no sheiks in NC anymore. Playing sheik at a mediocre level is beyond easy, but taking her from high level to the top is where it gets really hard.

edit: sheik is one of my best matchups, knowledge and experience-wise, at least partially because of my chaingrab mastery... but I've never beaten any notable sheiks lol.... at P5 I took amsah and shroomed's sheiks both down to 1 stock... I got 2 stocked by kel's sheik though lol. You just have to know the little tricks (obviously) and get inside the player's head. Sheiks never practice ****** Ganon because there's no point. We have to use that to our advantage. We know the Sheik vs Ganon metagame, not them (generally). Shoutouts to KK, the exception... and M2K, cause his sheik hardly ever loses period lmao

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

I used to be good or decent at the sheik matchup. I even liked it at one point.
Now I'm terribly rusty.

Also,Eikelmann, I hear you play guilty gear

i guess joe told you. naturally, i'm russian and play the big tank character in every game i play, so it'd be weird playing someone other than potemkin lol

 

[-ACE-]

shoutouts to zangeif

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

shoutouts to zangeif

 

[LoOshKiN]

hahahaa
I play ABA. She's weird but she has big hitboxes too

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

i would offer to play, but i can't play pad, and i haven't had a stick in years. unless you have two and a setup. sorry man.

 

[LoOshKiN]

I have two sticks and a setup
=D

 

[PseudoTurtle]

So it looks like it's gonna be Me & BlackChris vs. Ripple & PsuedoTurtle $10 MM.
Let's 2-0 these foos, Chris
>=)

Ten dollars? Ten ****ing dollars?!

Ripple, I'm gonna kill you.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I think it's 5 each, isn't it? Or did Strong Bad just up the price?

And Pseudo, don't kill him. Just make him sponsor you.

 

[Strong Badam]

$10 each baby

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

Possibly the most pointless MM ever.

What other fighters do you play, loosh?

 

[RaphaelRobo]

As long as it gets recorded, I won't complain. I want Chris to show what NC can do and destroy PseudoRipple.

 

[PseudoTurtle]

$10 each baby

Dude i didnt even agree to it lol. Im just doing it cuz ripple wanted to. Ill throw down like 2 at most

 

[RaphaelRobo]

So you're making Ripple throw down 18? I suppose that's fair for dragging you into it.

On a cooler note, 2v1 scrubs is a lot of fun. Thanks to it, I've recovered almost all of the tech skill I had when I last played the game a few months ago, and I'm more accurate than before. Plus, I'm responding more quickly, since I need to keep an eye on two people, who actually have a decent understanding of their characters. For some reason I can't RLD anymore, though.

 

[-ACE-]

who are these 2 players that aren't absolutely slaughtering any Ganon LOL

 

[RaphaelRobo]

Any 2 scrubs I can find in the dorm. Apparently college students have enough experience playing this game that with a small amount of work they could become Low-level tournament players. I'm also taking advantage of a lack of teamwork, and tricking them into hitting/KOing each other. Kind of like when me and Lightsyde were doing team friendlies, and the other team stuck us in situations where I'd KO Lightsyde.

 

[PseudoTurtle]

Lol no, raph, im not making blake throw in the other 18, i just mean it will be a 4 dollar $MM

 

[Bl@ckChris]

*shrug* idc. It could be worth your while though pseudo. Ripple sounds pretty good at this game. Be it 2 5 or 10 ill do it, but its good to put yourself in pressure situations.

I lost a 50 dollar teams match last year. It was a good experience. Went to game 7.

 

[PseudoTurtle]

Dude I'm really still just not confident in my playing at this point. Everybody who plays a top tier character just kinda 4 stocks me. And everybody else 2 and 3 stocks me lol.

Its a ****ty feeling and I know I'm gonna get better, like I already am, but like I said, I only obliged for ripple's sake haha. You coming to my place tonight?

 

[Geenareeno]

Damn. 50 dollars to game 7, it get recorded?