Do you think a night action where you send in 2 names and are told if the players are on the same faction is possible, John?
I can see that being a role, with what I've seen around in past games...
That would mean RR is a townie, and TB would be in the hotseat for the cult death..
That could be what that would mean. Or it would mean we should lynch Red Ryu toDay to either clear you or condemn you.
That sounds like a logical way to handle it, yes.
So now you want RR lynched because we should take your word on what your role is.
Hrmmm...
See, the problem with this is that the whole thing is based on that John believes you actually have a role that investigates TWO people. I find it ridiculous that a role like that would be in a small game like this, which Xiivi has stated wasn't very spectacular with power roles, and we already have a cult leader dead.
I, however, can see John actually believing that that role would be in the game. This would mean he COULD be town. The problem is, the implications made by John IF he were scum, could have a tremendous impact on the game. IF John were scum, THEN Red Ryu would probably in the clear because of what John played like last page and THEN T-block would be scum.
I can definitely see where you make the connection John scum = T-block scum. I also agree with with T-block's #680. The way you were playing with John was incredibly manipulative and I don't think John is one of the hardest players to manipulate (no offense, you're just very inexpierenced).
With this said, I still believe we should lynch John, instead of T-block. I am afraid that lynching T-block could do us a lot of harm. He has proven to be one of the stronger players. I think John's flip would be decisive in figuring out who scum is. If he were to flip scum, I would instantly be willing to vote T-block off without him even defending himself. If he were to flip town, I think we should lynch you, based on your play off yesterday (the switch to JTB) and your 'gambit' today on John and how manipulative it actually seemed.
You said you are almost entirely sure that John is scum and he is your top scum pick. Why lynch T-block first, seriously? I'd rather lynch scum right now and put us in a 4 to 1 scenario (assuming 2 scum) and not a 3-2 situation, if this were to go wrong. In fact, if there were 3 mafiosi and we mislynch T-block now, we are literally done for. For this, town had to have a power role or two more as well, but this doesn't seem impossible.
In my fair opinion, I'd much rather lynch the top scumpick that's incredibly suspicious than the expierenced player who is likely to be scum. I'm not willing to take that risk and possibly end the game tomorrow.
Claim order: Kantrip, RR, T-block, John.
John is my top scumpick, after that T-block, based on what you did (I agree with a lot of your points, don't take this post wrong), then I don't really care who claims. I just want to see John claim last.
I still have to read things over more carefully, only been home for an hour now, but these are my initial thoughts and I'm fairly sure I'll stick with this.
My vote is already on John, so take this as voting him.