Housepets! Mafia - Game Over - Who lived happily ever after in Babylon Gardens?

[Xiivi]

Vc2e

4/7|11.03.11 11:59PM EST

votee|voters
John2k4|Gustave/Kantrip/
T-block|DtJ Glyphmoney/
Kantrip|John2k4/
No Vote|T-block/Terywj/Red Ryu/

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I feel as if John tells us more about Kantrip, which is something I would need since I'm very imbalanced on his read I guess? Although this requires a more dedicated analysis of pretty much everything I missed.

I'm still salty.

 

[Kantrip]

I'd need to know why Red Ryu thinks I could be a scummate of John, and to show why this is possible.

John is the better lynch in almost all aspects right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Red Ryu, do those people change at all if the flip is not what you expect?

Depends, John town means your #1 scum to me.
John scum means your off the hook sort of as I look more into Tery/T-Block, though still needs a reread.

If you flip scum, John is cleared though possible scum and I look more into Tery and Glyph.
If you flip town, John is #1 scum.

Tery is scum no matter the scenario.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I like how I went from being a question mark to "scum no matter the scenario".

FoS: Red Ryu

 

[Kantrip]

Lol at Tery is scum no matter the scenario.

So what you're saying is there is no chance at all that John VS Me may possibly be TvT? You also think we couldn't be a scumteam?

You said we could earlier, and you agreed with Tery being a question mark.

HOW does town win if they lynch me, John and Tery? That method would be lucky to get 2 scum, not to mention if the first is a mis-lynch you would be in MyLo.

I'm liking Red Ryu less, and I want him to claim. Is anyone opposed to this?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm actually laughing really hard right now.

 

[Kantrip]

So Red Ryu, when I flip town who did TPK pick?

 

[T-block]

RR, how much weight are you giving the T-block/RR/Kantrip scenario that TPK brought up? Do you think it's possible, then, that TPK did not die because he targetted scum?

 

[Kantrip]

T-Block, I'd just like to put out there that I like you a lot more than Red Ryu at the moment.

 

[T-block]

Totally got ninja'd with that question.

Why thank you, Kantrip. Not sure why you're telling me that though.

 

[Kantrip]

Because I feel like it could be relevant to what I'm getting from my re-read so far.

Would you get on a RR lynch if you knew I was town?

 

[T-block]

I'm going to ask that we stop asking questions/posting observations until RR responds to what's happened so far.

So on that note, I'll answer your question in a bit, if that's all right.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I like how I went from being a question mark to "scum no matter the scenario".

FoS: Red Ryu

PoE.

Lol at Tery is scum no matter the scenario.

So what you're saying is there is no chance at all that John VS Me may possibly be TvT? You also think we couldn't be a scumteam?

You said we could earlier, and you agreed with Tery being a question mark.

HOW does town win if they lynch me, John and Tery? That method would be lucky to get 2 scum, not to mention if the first is a mis-lynch you would be in MyLo.

I'm liking Red Ryu less, and I want him to claim. Is anyone opposed to this?

1. Poe

2. I do not think you vs John is TvT. I think the possibility is there though really unlikely.

3. Tery being a question mark is why throigh PoE I think he is scum.

4. Town wins because the scum team is within those 3 people imo. I realize that lylo/mylo is after this.

So Red Ryu, when I flip town who did TPK pick?

T-Block is my guess, if not the very rare chance he picked John.

RR, how much weight are you giving the T-block/RR/Kantrip scenario that TPK brought up? Do you think it's possible, then, that TPK did not die because he targetted scum?

As much as I don't wanna be shown wrong again from Tery's Disco mafia, I don't think we have a vig or second killing role at all so I don't think he died from anything but his ability.

~

Also I'm not claiming.

 

[Kantrip]

T-Block you can get at this and say whatever. Answer too, and if you want to follow up on this do so before I ruin it with rage posts.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

before I ruin it with rage posts.

 

[Kantrip]

I mad bro.

If I flip town, why is John first scum choice and NOT T-Block?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'll answer that when my reread is done.

 

[Kantrip]

Alright.

T-Block, I'd like your answer now.

 

[T-block]

Would you get on a RR lynch if you knew I was town?

Yes, because it means TPK targetted him instead of you.

And it's weird that RR isn't coming to the same conclusion.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Problem is part of the fact, I can't see you as scum and doing it from PoE is hard to follow.

 

[Kantrip]

I agree that that is strange.

It led me to believe that the two of you could be a scumteam. If I'm lynched toDay and flip town, you'll go after RR, then? That's the easiest way to confirm my alignment, and I'm fed up with the sheeping of this game. If you and RR are the scumteam, we never had a chance.

RR, why would you look at T-Block on Johnscum but not on me town?

 

[T-block]

Problem is part of the fact, I can't see you as scum and doing it from PoE is hard to follow.

You asserted a few things though:
a) TPK died from targetting mafia N1
b) TPK would have only targetted you, me, or Kantrip

If we can mod confirm Kantrip as town, why do these beliefs not lead you straight to thinking I'm scum?

I don't buy that you think TPK could have targetted John. Or even if you believe it's possible, I don't believe that my actions thus far could have me townie enough in your mind so that a townKantrip flip would lead you to the conclusion "TPK targetted John" instead of "TPK targetted T-block".

I'm genuinely confused here...

 

[Kantrip]

As confused as RR was when you weren't peanut.

Then you said "I told you I'm not who you thought I was".

When did you tell him this?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

What's PoE.

 

[Kantrip]

Process of Elimination. Which is horrid reasoning on RR's part, but I'll let T-Block follow up once RR answers his questions.

The scum team is most likely one of these:
Red Ryu / T-Block
Red Ryu / Gustave
T-Block / John

If we're looking for 3 mafia then idk. I doubt that though, with how basic the town has been.

If there is an indy, it could be anyone.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

With that I see no reason to keep this going in regards to that.

Vote: Red Ryu

I hate being lazy.

 

[Xiivi]

Vc2f

4/7|11.03.11 11:59PM EST

votee|voters
John2k4|Gustave/Kantrip/
T-block|DtJ Glyphmoney/
Kantrip|John2k4/
Red Ryu|Terywj/
No Vote|T-block/Red Ryu/

 

[John2k4]

@Red Ryu - Could you link to the wiki/website that you're getting the character bios off of?

@Kanty - If it helps me any, I crumbed my details very early on - the day the game started.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

In a ten man mafia game it's a 2 man, 3 man is unbalanced or epic mafia like levels of play.

 

[Kantrip]

How did you crumb?

But no, that doesn't help me much. Wifom, you know. Scum can crumb town roles and flavour too.

 

[Kantrip]

Alright RR, that's what I thought but I thought it was possible.

Could you respond to T-Block's latest post?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I agree that that is strange.

It led me to believe that the two of you could be a scumteam. If I'm lynched toDay and flip town, you'll go after RR, then? That's the easiest way to confirm my alignment, and I'm fed up with the sheeping of this game. If you and RR are the scumteam, we never had a chance.

RR, why would you look at T-Block on Johnscum but not on me town?

Lol, we're not a scum team, though that would be pretty pro to do that to Disco room.

When I finish my reread I'll answer the other question.

You asserted a few things though:
a) TPK died from targetting mafia N1
b) TPK would have only targetted you, me, or Kantrip

If we can mod confirm Kantrip as town, why do these beliefs not lead you straight to thinking I'm scum?

I don't buy that you think TPK could have targetted John. Or even if you believe it's possible, I don't believe that my actions thus far could have me townie enough in your mind so that a townKantrip flip would lead you to the conclusion "TPK targetted John" instead of "TPK targetted T-block".

I'm genuinely confused here...

It would, but it's hard.

I've had a town read on you the whole game, if by PoE it was you considering what I know of you as is, I dunno if I could lynch you off that info of TPK alone.

It's the fact I'm almost 100% what your role is already based on your posts.

Process of Elimination. Which is horrid reasoning on RR's part, but I'll let T-Block follow up once RR answers his questions.

The scum team is most likely one of these:
Red Ryu / T-Block
Red Ryu / Gustave
T-Block / John

If we're looking for 3 mafia then idk. I doubt that though, with how basic the town has been.

If there is an indy, it could be anyone.

Why?

PoE works when it's clear there is no other alternative if it is blatant and obvious. I've done it before and it works when PoE is clear as day, for T-Block I do not think this is the case.

There is no Indy imo. Or if there is it's not something that would disrupt the set-up like a SK or abductor would and is extremely passive like a survivor at best.

 

[Kantrip]

Why do you need a re-read to explain something you already said?

Tell me what your thought process was at that time, and you can update it after a re-read.

 

[John2k4]

How did you crumb?

But no, that doesn't help me much. Wifom, you know. Scum can crumb town roles and flavour too.

I started to do it with my first two posts, then blew it and forgot. Picked it back up again at my 86.

Really, it's the start of the first day, JTB...I don't like your pressuring for votes so fast.

Oh? That explains it.

Can't do that, Star Fox.

Killing me, JTB...

--

That's why I wanted to crumb it as quickly as I could right at the start, so it was more...ahem, legitimate? (I can't quite grab the right word for here. :/)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I thought you were a townie. I've never really understood crumbing, per se, but doesn't it seem pointless / unhelpful for townie crumbs?

 

[Kantrip]

Alright John, that is a huge null at best imo. Crumbing flavour won't help you.

What are your thoughts and up-to-date reads?

 

[John2k4]

I thought you were a townie. I've never really understood crumbing, per se, but doesn't it seem pointless / unhelpful for townie crumbs?

Indeed I am a townie. Crumbing allows for hints to a role/flavor/whatever to be dropped very subtly during a game, and then be easily revealed when needed.
One prime example would be a cop crumbing his results each day as he got reads on people. That way, no one knows he is a cop, but he can instantly reveal all his past information in a single post, with little hassle.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why do you need a re-read to explain something you already said?

Tell me what your thought process was at that time, and you can update it after a re-read.

Because I am making sure I understand T-Block and John's interactions .

 

[Kantrip]

That's fine, and I'm glad you're reading things over again, but I want to know your thought process when you posted, even if you may doubt it now.