...who said anything about WW being bad late game? WW's late game is stupidly strong.
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DallasPhat
Smash Master
Ww late game is by far the best out of any jungler.
Well rammus might be on par or better.
Shyvanna also very strong late game.
Well rammus might be on par or better.
Shyvanna also very strong late game.
Their late games are very different. I'd say WW has the strongest carrying capability of any other late game jungler, but Malphite, Amumu, and Rammus can all be utterly savage tanks late game. Nothing compares to the feeling of being a 300+ Armor Malphite vs. a team with 3 ADish heroes.Ww late game is by far the best out of any jungler.
Well rammus might be on par or better.
MacD
Banned via Administration
I would say Late Game Shyvana definitely carries harder than Warwick, assuming coordinated teams and people not letting themselves get picked off (in which case Warwick is stronger).
Shyv has one of the strongest late game team fights of any character in the game.
Shyv has one of the strongest late game team fights of any character in the game.
Mogwai didn't say he wouldn't do it, just that he would probably regret it after the fact 
like, name 3 supports in that scenario that aren't going to just kite/cc your balls off while strategically placing +21038129038092 armor heals on the guy who you're trying to kill. and no I wouldn't do it because I'd be too busy crying myself to sleep over the fact that I bought a mother****ing IE on Pantheon.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Mogwai just upset/too stubborn to pick up an op champ.
Not true. He happily picked up Jarvan, but they sucked the OP right out of him.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Same disclaimer as before, but while warwick has an awesome lategame so does amumu, GP (who isn't a particularly good jungler, but the purpose for him is to have a gp on your team), and a few others.
You'd be surprised the kind of people you can carry, let me ask you this. What are you maxing first?Only time i don't like playing Sona is when the person i am pared with is an idiot and throws themselves into free gold for the enemy.
It isn't that bad to play as it's just frustrating that even when you are healing them giving them buffs and such they still keep playing like a moron.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Idunno, a page back there was a slight mention of WW's lategame being lackluster and it spurred a memory where I read a similar statement sometime ago, I just never commented on it.
I was just curious if people felt the same, 'cuz I didn't.
I was just curious if people felt the same, 'cuz I didn't.
If they think that they're wrong. It's his early game that's always been lackluster.
Tankwick is good at never dying while slowly killing you with high base damage Qs, on hit wick good at single target but a bit less survivable.
Tankwick is good at never dying while slowly killing you with high base damage Qs, on hit wick good at single target but a bit less survivable.
mercs, wriggle's, wit's, triforce, and then pick 2 of omen/GA/Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Banshee's
best WW build, always kill, never die
What? I play GP ffs.Mogwai just upset/too stubborn to pick up an op champ.
I just know what I like and OP changes too often to really just pick up an OP champ and run them forever (other than Ramble and Yorick, but **** those *******s, neither of them is any fun for anyone).
EDIT: also re: WW's early game, jpak's post on it was the best in the thread. WW pre-6 ganks work a lot just because people don't see them coming. open boots, take wraiths -> red -> gank at level 2 (take E if ganking a boots first top lane, Q otherwise), ****'s pretty damn beastmode.
and Leona. Leona both a sexy girl and also manliest support, don't ask me how. She goes in deep.
Vyke
Smash Champion
I tried out Ionic Spark on WW just for kicks on my smurf, and I found it hilarious that his ult procs the chain lightning. T'was good fun.
Just thought I'd share.
Just thought I'd share.
yea, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still never going to buy ionic spark instead of wit's end.
EDIT: and buying both is overkill.
EDIT: and buying both is overkill.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Buy both AND Madred's Bloodrazor.
**** the rules
**** the rules
Yea, sure, w/e, just throw in a malady and a black cleaver and you've got yourself the best build on every character. We just broke the meta.
Vyke
Smash Champion
We'll call it the Slapchop build
slappin' fools and choppin' them up
dying in two seconds
slappin' fools and choppin' them up
dying in two seconds
His ult does what.....................
That must be the secret buff saint was talking about. Wit's end op
ToferTheHuman
Hii
Ziggs is like the Cheshire Cat, only he throws bombs.
WW ult has always applied on hits, that's why people liked bloodrazor on him.
Also, there is a character who Wit's + Spark is viable on
Also all I learned from Mogwai's huge post on WW is that he unignored jpak.
Also, there is a character who Wit's + Spark is viable on
Also all I learned from Mogwai's huge post on WW is that he unignored jpak.
Are you with me camera guy? Cuz it's about to get furious
until you're bifocal curious
I wish rep still existed.
Also, I played in a bot game to see the new bots and actually had to carry. Was maybe one of the saddest things I've seen in a while.
Also, I played in a bot game to see the new bots and actually had to carry. Was maybe one of the saddest things I've seen in a while.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Oh didn't notice this.
Getting out of farming and spending the entire game poking at and trying to destroy the enemy team?
Sign me up!
Soraka is boring as hell though, taric I don't enjoy as much cause he doesn't really have agency in lane. Haven't actually done any allistar tbh, need to add him to my roster, even though I've had him forever.
Still haven't started actually playing ranked btw, need to find a reliable AD carry to duo with. When are there gonna be skrims next btw, criticism is always appreciated.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Haven't tried em yet, wanna try out cassi so probably gonna try it after class, but from what I've heard, they've still got massive exploits but are incredibly coordinated and since crushing them in lane doesn't prevent them from getting fed they become pub-stompers.
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so quick question. is hybrid pantheon like...viable at all?
Like I still don't know exactly what to build on panth but it usually circles around
(Jungle panth btw) double dblade or Wriggles depending on team) -> brutalizer -> phage.
then from there I either get Aegis or a BF Sword (depending on how well I'm doing)
but Like if I somehow manage like 3 ganks before red buff goes away. then I go hybrid and build phage into triforce and get a rageblade?
viable?....not viable?
Like I still don't know exactly what to build on panth but it usually circles around
(Jungle panth btw) double dblade or Wriggles depending on team) -> brutalizer -> phage.
then from there I either get Aegis or a BF Sword (depending on how well I'm doing)
but Like if I somehow manage like 3 ganks before red buff goes away. then I go hybrid and build phage into triforce and get a rageblade?
viable?....not viable?
his AP scaling is bad. Triforce is an acceptable item to finish a build after you have a lot of AD, but rageblade is utter garbage on him and gunblade was questionably worth it when the stats were completely OP, but now that the stats are reasonable, **** that item.
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hmmm...so basically I should just be stacking damage on damage on damage? (with defense somewhere thrown in there)
Vyke
Smash Champion
Pick up the occasional Hexdrinker for resistances, I guess?
I see a lot of Pantheons go Frozen Mallet now.
I see a lot of Pantheons go Frozen Mallet now.
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Alistar can be boring if the enemy is so scared of you that they're constantly sitting behind their tower.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Yeah, if you don't man up and tower dive them with your 75% Damage Reduction!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=258275
I'd say aegis is my 5th item more than Triforce nowadays.