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Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

DMG

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Team Arctic and the only snow related champ is the ****ing Polar Bear that's why lol

That's like team Pirate when the only person you have is Miss Fortune
 
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Team Arctic and the only snow related champ is the ****ing Polar Bear that's why lol

That's like team Pirate when the only person you have is Miss Fortune
they started calling me polar bear. /:
then one said 'go team arctic'
<_>
Team Banjo if we had an Anivia
 

DMG

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See now THAT would be worthy of a pic

You have the stuff
 
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Ohhh

Ryze/Morg/Anivia/Voli/Nidalee
Mumbo/***** Witch/Kazooie/Banjo/Wumba

gg team rare
 

Plum

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Volibear, Anivia, Nunu, Northern Front Swain, Queen Ashe, Fjord Rammus, Cryocore Brand, Tundra Fizz, Glacial Olaf, Frostfire Annie, prolly missing some. Point being is that you have no excuses for not having two full teams of arctic champs facing off against each other.
 
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Volibear, Anivia, Nunu, Northern Front Swain, Queen Ashe, Fjord Rammus, Cryocore Brand, Tundra Fizz, Glacial Olaf, Frostfire Annie, prolly missing some. Point being is that you have no excuses for not having two full teams of arctic champs facing off against each other.
i'm willing if we can get everyone with the skins.
 

M3D

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Dphat Mummy troll so hard.

"We're winning game? Cool, let me tower dive Kennen and Morgana instead of taking the tower... twice."

<3
 

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So I was on Dphat's channel and I saw a link to this:

http://www.twitch.tv/missmiarose

A Pornstar playing LoL. Obviously her huge view count is because of her huge boobs. I curiously look to see if she's doing anything interesting other than having a rack, obviously she won't be naked on twitch.

She opens her team view and she's in a team with SaintVicious and Reginald, and they're going to play some dominion. Wtf?

-DD
 

M3D

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haha... so Guinsoo retweeted me: https://twitter.com/#!/RiotGuinsoo

I'm seriously going to make a design post tomorrow about how frakking stupid these changes are. These changes don't increase options at all. It's just different and bad.
 

M3D

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They took all the texture out of playing a jungler. You struggle to keep up with the duos in experience, because even if the camps are up more often, you still have to WALK between them. It's not like you clear them at a constant rate. Then any time you stop clearing them to go gank, you are taking a huge risk without any increases to rewards. Gold for champions killed is the same as it always was. Gold for towers is the same, but they push back just as hard as ever before. So the risk vs reward is all out of whack.

Then this whole idea about opening jungling up to lower level players is just asinine. Level 4 summoners who no runes and only a few champions don't need the jungle to be accessible. They need to learn how to last hit, place wards and use their champion skills. Jungling is a skill that unfolds as you discover more about the game. It's OK to have that kind of difficulty built into a competitive game. They aren't robbing a level 8 summoner of fun by not making the jungle more accessible.

There WERE good choices in the jungle before. You didn't just clear then gank. That was just the most obvious choice. You could shop, ward, invade, attempt dragon, harass, hold a lane, etc. You could try to gank at level 2 and snag a quick kill. The texture to the decision making process made for interesting play and counter play. Now there is no meaningful counter play. You just wait until the random time the jungler decides to put himself behind in EXP, keep wards, burn your summoners to escape if necessary and then put more wards up, and keep on farming.

It's bad all around.
 

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They took all the texture out of playing a jungler. You struggle to keep up with the duos in experience, because even if the camps are up more often, you still have to WALK between them. It's not like you clear them at a constant rate. Then any time you stop clearing them to go gank, you are taking a huge risk without any increases to rewards. Gold for champions killed is the same as it always was. Gold for towers is the same, but they push back just as hard as ever before. So the risk vs reward is all out of whack.

Then this whole idea about opening jungling up to lower level players is just asinine. Level 4 summoners who no runes and only a few champions don't need the jungle to be accessible. They need to learn how to last hit, place wards and use their champion skills. Jungling is a skill that unfolds as you discover more about the game. It's OK to have that kind of difficulty built into a competitive game. They aren't robbing a level 8 summoner of fun by not making the jungle more accessible.

There WERE good choices in the jungle before. You didn't just clear then gank. That was just the most obvious choice. You could shop, ward, invade, attempt dragon, harass, hold a lane, etc. You could try to gank at level 2 and snag a quick kill. The texture to the decision making process made for interesting play and counter play. Now there is no meaningful counter play. You just wait until the random time the jungler decides to put himself behind in EXP, keep wards, burn your summoners to escape if necessary and then put more wards up, and keep on farming.

It's bad all around.
I dunno. That's all based on playing it the same way it was played before, which given the nature of an overhaul, shouldn't really work all that well if they don't want it to. There might be something worthwhile with two duo lanes who can run to the small camps for healing or something instead of just backing.

I still haven't had time to see how it all works yet, but I really do think there has to be something that works better now that didn't work well before, and that's why that option hasn't been explored yet.
-DD
 

KevinM

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Because it's not against ToS because she can't according to Twitch's ToS.. it's just a cheap trick to get more viewers. Also yay jungle reverts!
 

ArcNatural

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I imagine they will be keeping the jungle the same and just fix the leveling/gold rates.

I can't believe they thought that "scaling" the jungle was a good idea, when by the time that may mean anything jungling no longer matters.

The only thing I can think of was that they were hoping to nerf early jungle situations to allow the lanes to be more aggressive.
 

Dastrn

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So I was on Dphat's channel and I saw a link to this:

http://www.twitch.tv/missmiarose

A Pornstar playing LoL. Obviously her huge view count is because of her huge boobs. I curiously look to see if she's doing anything interesting other than having a rack, obviously she won't be naked on twitch.

She opens her team view and she's in a team with SaintVicious and Reginald, and they're going to play some dominion. Wtf?

-DD
No F-ing way. I used to raid in vanilla wow with her. She was on my server from the start. I wonder how she's doing.

She's a legit good gamer, ya'll. She might be good at LoL. She was a good raid leader in WoW.
 

Dastrn

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They took all the texture out of playing a jungler. You struggle to keep up with the duos in experience, because even if the camps are up more often, you still have to WALK between them. It's not like you clear them at a constant rate. Then any time you stop clearing them to go gank, you are taking a huge risk without any increases to rewards. Gold for champions killed is the same as it always was. Gold for towers is the same, but they push back just as hard as ever before. So the risk vs reward is all out of whack.

Then this whole idea about opening jungling up to lower level players is just asinine. Level 4 summoners who no runes and only a few champions don't need the jungle to be accessible. They need to learn how to last hit, place wards and use their champion skills. Jungling is a skill that unfolds as you discover more about the game. It's OK to have that kind of difficulty built into a competitive game. They aren't robbing a level 8 summoner of fun by not making the jungle more accessible.

There WERE good choices in the jungle before. You didn't just clear then gank. That was just the most obvious choice. You could shop, ward, invade, attempt dragon, harass, hold a lane, etc. You could try to gank at level 2 and snag a quick kill. The texture to the decision making process made for interesting play and counter play. Now there is no meaningful counter play. You just wait until the random time the jungler decides to put himself behind in EXP, keep wards, burn your summoners to escape if necessary and then put more wards up, and keep on farming.

It's bad all around.
I disagree with your assessment. You're just probably playing it the old way and hoping for it to be similar. It's a whole different thing to jungle now.

Udyr is noticeably worse in the jungle now, if you're going Tiger. I haven't tested phoenix yet, but it's probably not as bad. I'll probably drop him entirely based on these changes.
AS malphite is legit good in the jungle.
I double jungled last night with a lee-sin and that worked well. We were both ganking early in separate lanes, invading constantly, and the constant pressure in all 3 lanes (who were all pushing because of the 2v1s) was glorious.

I think there are whole new jungle options that we aren't exploring yet and that's why it feels bad to you.

For example, don't start blue anymore. Start wolves. Then blue. No need for a pull. You'll get some hp back when you do wraiths after blue, and then wolves are back up and more free HP. Play champs that naturally can stave off some of the HP loss. Take heal as your second summoner spell (i'm not kidding.) There are all sorts of things that are new options that haven't been explored fully yet.

I'm playing mostly malphite now in the jungle, as a beefy ad aoe champ. 3 of his abilities do aoe. Add a sunfire for some beef and you get even more aoe. R>E>W>Q when lleveling abilities. You can leap into the pile behind your tank and KO them out of their **** and then aoe the hell out of hte pack.
 

Dastrn

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HOLY **** I JUST READ THIS AND I INSTANTLY stopped lmfao.
Did you read the "if you're going tiger" part?
he's slower as a single target jungler. with malphite and rammus, I didn't notice it being any slower than I'm used to. With Tiger Udyr, I felt the slowdown of xp and gold that everyone has talked about.

I'll have to go back to phoenix stance and try it out again. It's been like 6 months since I've jungled with him that way.

dphat, we are agreeing. Do you not notice that?
 

Dastrn

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Who said it wasn't?
I did that anyways. A lot of junglers didn't. I'm just pointing out that wolves first should be the rule.
 

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I gave your mom's asinine, but her face was a two.


Junglers are *****ing and it does need to be changed, but hell no, don't revert it. I am all for any change that could lead to more options in various lane comps. I hate the current metagame.
 

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I hate the characters in those games. LoL appeals to me and the metagame will shift. People ***** too much for Riot to ever leave it alone.
 

Dastrn

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jpak, did you guys win last night? I watched the first half of your game, but had to bail before it was over.
 

jpak

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jpak, did you guys win last night? I watched the first half of your game, but had to bail before it was over.
I played two different bo3s last night, I think you are referring to my first set. We ended up winning both 2-0.

The game you were watching was the Alienware Semi-Finals, so now we are in the Alienware Fall Grand Finals on December 8th, winner(first place) gets $1000, loser (second place) gets $500. :)

The second bo3 is for Plantronics tournament, we are now in upper bracket semi-finals playing MLG team RFLX gaming.
 
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