Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Abel1994]

Trickster 2 tricky

 

[DallasPhat]

DMG: "Who the **** is t. wesley ruttle?"

 

[Scamp]

Shyvana was by far one of the fastest junglers. Best PvE champion by far. The new masteries increase jungle speed for some of the slower champs by a good margin, and also let them finish with more health.

Do you have any stats on this or were you referring to any specific champs in general? Because that hasn't really been my experience with the new masteries.


Well, except for Evelynn, of course.

I mean, udyr could have tiger and phoenix at the same time if he wanted. I still think Rammus would win if you wanted to see who could like, reach level 18 by only clearing jungle camps, but you have both jungles to work with.

Shyvana would definitely win in a race to 18 by clearing jungle camps. Rammus would keep it close, though, because he saves time running between jungles.

Would be interesting to watch, actually. Shyvana would be using her ult to hop over walls and run to the other side faster.

On second though I take that back it wouldn't be interesting to watch at all.

 

[john!]

No

i laughed out loud at this response

 

[Deleted member]

almost any move can take u out of veigar's circle without getting stunned like alistar's headbutt

 

[DMG]

Yeah. What's gayer is eating projectiles in motion. Ults stuns Brand Ult etc

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Does Brand's ult still bounce after dodging it?

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

playful trickster can dodge karthus ult? wat?

yeah you jump on the trident right as it's about to hit, pretty amazing.

 

[Shaya]

Imo Jarmanzmo the 20/40 gold before the start is probably worth a lot more than 20-40 gold.
that's 20/40 gold you're getting 1.30 before you would start generating gold. Trying to quantify that value is a bit hard though... how would you rate it? I would say each point is worth at least 24.5.

Although I agree with you that is isn't helpful for starting builds much at all... except laning dorans + health potion again. You're 5 gold short in -a lot- of areas in terms of starting items, which is just a pain in the ***.

Also the mana mastery gives Energy if you're a ninja.

And Havoc also applies to spells and I think its suited more towards casters than carries (1.5% when talking about 300 base damage spells makes it slightly more efficient)

 

[BSL]

yeah you jump on the trident right as it's about to hit, pretty amazing.

brb, buying riot points.

i can't decide which skin i want for him though... the atlantis one is pretty cool, but then the arctic one HAS AN ORCA. WHAAAAAAAAAAT

 

[Vyke]

Mogwai already covered this partially but I'd like to point out that a 3:15 lvl 4 clear is about 5 seconds faster than the time I was able to clear the jungle with her using the old masteries.

Old masteries were amazing for jungle purposes as well. I don't feel the new masteries have really changed much. The big difference is that it's pretty much pointless IMO to get the experience mastery now (at least for early jungling) so you have a little bit more freedom in what you start out with.

Not really sure why you think the old masteries were amazing for jungling. There were a lot of wasted points you had to go through. These new masteries are sick nasty without even losing the jungling experience.

 

[DallasPhat]

Messing around with dekar if anyone want to watch.
http://www.justin.tv/dphat0

 

[PhantomX]

Does Brand's ult still bounce after dodging it?

Nope. It pops the projectile entirely.

That said, I think he needs to lane against melee or telegraphed casters, b/c it is difficult for him to CS without eating harass otherwise.

 

[fkacyan]

How are Koreans so good at SC2 and so awful at League

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

brb, buying riot points.

i can't decide which skin i want for him though... the atlantis one is pretty cool, but then the arctic one HAS AN ORCA. WHAAAAAAAAAAT

i bought both, i usually use atlantean though. even original is good.

 

[Shaya]

How are Koreans so good at SC2 and so awful at League

They play league as a 1v1 for their lanes only. And they always duo queue taking a solo + jungler and only give a **** about themselves. They don't care about the rest of the map, nor their team mates, they will ignore calls to fight or defend and then blame the rest of the team for the loss because they snowballed pushing down towers we couldn't defend without them.

i.e. They refuse to communicate with anyone who speaks English other than to call you bad/noob/etc and play League like starcraft.

At least, that's the general formula I see when I play with 'troll koreans'.

 

[Scamp]

Not really sure why you think the old masteries were amazing for jungling. There were a lot of wasted points you had to go through. These new masteries are sick nasty without even losing the jungling experience.

Old masteries weren't really the point. They definitely weren't made with jungling in mind. I just don't think the new masteries are as impactful as some people are making them out to be.

Which masteries are "sick nasty"?

 

[Ignatius]

@Shaya sounds like the last time I watched a Hotshot stream.

 

[fkacyan]

Playing BROMACIA every game now, how can you ever lose top as this guy

 

[BSL]

Bromacia as in Brolaf?

 

[Z'zgashi]

Holy ****, 20 Rune Pages?! Da ***************?????

 

[Plum]

Playing BROMACIA every game now, how can you ever lose top as this guy

 

[Mogwai]

Below Olaf tier. Olaf has a slow from ranged.

EDIT: @ Mogwai: He could but wouldnt he get mauled without turtle stance?

not by jungle camps and if you're talking PvP, hell, that's all shyvana does too .

 

[Shaya]

I've done tiger + phoenix jungling before... its pretty fast but you're god awfully squishie.

 

[JTB]

ad sion getting 400+ hp a hit with his ult

wut

 

[Sinz]

Twas fun carrying you Dphat

 

[Shaya]

Okay I got a new rule for climbing up elo.

I refuse to play ranked from 6pm (11pm PST) until the next day.
Hopefully with this sick legit strategy, I won't have to deal with as many koreans.

Although that reduces the amount of time I could actually play ranked games for to like...
2.
Because I like to sleep in.
****.
(realises this is best for my sanity)

 

[MacD]

dude, i had that same rule, except not because of koreans, but i just got the worst people ever starting after like 10/11pm in the 13/1400s

now it's not as bad but still sometimes, just get a few games of trolls

 

[PhantomX]

I love Elementz so hard for putting Lee Sin into tier 2. Play ranked today. Am last pick at 1690. Get Lee Sin b/c for whatever reason people keep letting me jungle even though last pick. Go 6-0-12. Now 1740.

 

[MacD]

i thought that was just his draft mode tier list he updated, unless he updated the solo queue one too

i mean i agree that in 5's, lee isn't as strong because you're going to be watching out for his ganks and stuff

solo queue though, lee sin OP

 

[Turazrok]

Skarner better now?

I really like his 1v1 against other junglers, counterjungling and ganks.

You can't run away once he hits you with the slow yo.

 

[Shaya]

So vladimir legendary skin
THEY'RE TURNING HIM INTO MANLIEST MUSCLE MAN EVER?

OH LOOK, VLADS GETTING SOME BUFFS< YAY!

 

[JTB]

Lol, I read the posts about not playing at this time due to koreans and think I'm safe, so I queue up.

2 koreans, afk morg mid and afk guy in champ select randoms xerath and feeds

woop woop kill me now

 

[Shaya]

I broke my rule by an hour and random'd blitzkrank and bent space and time with my grabs (which I were shocked they even grabbed, one I swear went through a minion)

At the same time,
Ezreal, Rammus, Gangplank, Kennen and Blitzkrank is perhaps the most fun I've had on a team in ages.

Now its past 8, and the chance of hardship has gone from 50% at 6pm to 95% (statistically backed data, legit) I will be jungle twitching in normals for the rest of the evening.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I think Riven is easily a tier one level champion, but she's criminally underused despite crazy early damage, crazy late game scaling, and amazing mobility.

Don't tell anybody else though.

I'm not anywhere near good enough at the game (or even aware enough of what being good means) to make a call like that, but I think she's amazing fun. I'm level 22, I bought her, Lux, Morgana, Annie, and Rammus. I haven't really played Rammus though, buying him was a mistake.

I was wondering if you guys play any games together (custom games or what have you) and whether or not anyone would mind having me tag along. I'd really like to learn this game on a competitive scale, but there's just so much to it that I feel a little overwhelmed and I don't know anyone that plays. For every great game I have, I have 5 bad games with really bad team mates, but I'm still forced to concede that the loss is my fault, since really a good player can carry a team.

There's also the issue that normal leveling games lack any sense of structure (no jungler, 2 people on top, no real effort to have a strong team comp etc).

I play on the US realms (yeah my ping can kind of suck at certain times during the day but is usually under 200) and my username is Risemix.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

you have the right attitude at least

there is a lot for you to learn at this point and most of it is impractical if not impossible for someone to teach you.

just know that last-hitting is the most important skill you can have in this game, from last hitting under harassment, last hitting while harassing, to last hitting at tower. it's critical that newer players realize that creeps are not just things that must be killed, but rather they are assets and gold. in order to receive these assets, you have to be in a position to hit the minions as well as possess the ability to last-hit them. this is like, the most important thing players have to learn in order to get better.

soon you'll realize that this game is less about killing the opposing team and more about farm and which team can get the most.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

just know that last-hitting is the most important skill you can have in this game, from last hitting under harassment

LOL SERIOUSLY. How do you DO this? It should be obvious that in my current games I'm usually sharing creeps in a lane (no structure). How do I last-hit while being harassed by two others in my lane? It's so scary.

Usually I get denied pretty hard until about level 5 when my kit is complete (with melee like Riven anyway, ranged I do better) and I can harass effectively, but damn son, getting gold while being harassed is just ... wat.

 

[DanGR]

So I'm imagining what a conversation with Morello about the CV nerfs might be like.

Me: What was the reasoning behind nerfing CV instead of wards?
Morello: Clairvoyance was overpowered. It was used on supports every game- it was degenerate. Degenerate gameplay is anti-fun.
Me: Well, smite is a summoner spell used every game on junglers. Guess we'll be seeing smite nerfs soon, eh.
Morello: That's why we introduced the summoner spells, Surge and Promote- to give junglers new options.

Spoiler

 

[jpak]

Not a good comparison since the jungle will change with the jungle remake. In the jungle remake, they want a lot of people to jungle I imagine without smite too. Something like 5% bonus experience from wraiths is just temporary.

 

[Scamp]

Kind of interested in the philosophy of avoiding bad players to climb in ELO. Certainly it's not fun and very frustrating to play with baddies, I get that.

But theoretically it's more likely that the baddies will be on the opposing side, since there are 5 randoms over there and 4 on your team.