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Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

_Dice

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Yeah, this. Maybe I just don't know what a "support" actually is, what with support Ashe and GP running around
with roaming support eve Well pretty much you just get items that help your team more than you and gold/10s. running around ganking lanes, warding everything and doing stuff like helping your jungler get buffs earlier, get dragon, cover lanes so your jungler doesn't have to. ect

when i tried support eve until i dropped her for alistar for obvious reasons. i had pretty good success with boots of mobility + philo + Lucky Pick. and if i did well in helping lanes then i bought an aegis. if my team had alot of magic damage i got a malady, if it was alot of autoattacking i got starks. just stuff like that. but warding every lane helps your team so much as well as being able to coordinate ganks with the jungler using your spells to guarantee a kill where one might get away. 3v1 ganks top are really unexpected. and because you are eve you often force pink wards if you are doing a good job ganking. usually when they put pink wards down i just play like i'm visible and counter jungler more.

but alistar is better overall so yeah.
 

DMG

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Watch a variety of streams. 1400+ on up. Notice what people at different elo's do. You might learn easier what to do for specific situations like how to initiate or what to look for if you see the difference between how a 1400 acts and a 1900. For example you might see a 1400 solo top and think "I should be fine without a ward/just a single ward if I play defensively", and then a 1900 in a similar situation buys 2 wards and goes balls to the wall aggressive.


The biggest thing I can think of to spot/realize/understand is what to do with advantages. There are so many people that win team fights or get a gold edge or something tangible, and don't capitalize on it. The people that team fight, ace the other team, and just back on the spot instead of getting dragon/baron or at least pushing a tower somewhere.
 

Wave⁂

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These aren't things you can teach easily, NeverKnowsBest. For example, your question "what should the jungler be doing?" is way too vague. A better question would be "what route should the jungler take, when should I deviate from that route, and why?" or "when should I counterjungle, and who is better at counterjungling, and what do I do if I am counterjungled?" or "when should the jungler go into the lanes to gank, how do these situations vary with the champions on both teams, and when is it a good idea for the jungler to leech lane experience?"
 

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Speaking of assassin revival, I come back after not playing for a year and I'm still waiting for that Eve remake...
They actually have been working on it; that said, no one has any projections as to when it will be ready (though some speculate sometime this month). You can get a pretty good summary of stealth rework info released up to this point here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1198907
 

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Im beginning to think Poppy is a bit underrated atm. I was playing her, and right after I got my ult, I was able to score a quadra kill with a late penta just by playing hit and run with heroic charge and devastating blow while keeping a constant shield up. And I wasnt fed at the time or anything, I only had 1 kill beforehand.
 

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Poppy doesn't fit in the meta.
She can't jungle.
She can't solo reliably.
She wouldn't be able to farm in a bot lane, even with support.

If we're to rate characters based on their level 18, or some gold value (like 10k), then a large array of characters are better than others.
Vladimir was considered one of, if not the best character in the game at one point, even though he became less effective for each level after 9 (always), while being weak for the first few levels too. However between levels 9-16 he was likely better than 95% of the cast.
Poppy with 10k gold is worth more than... Malzahar/annie/whatever with 10k gold. But malzahar/annie/etc are probably twice as likely to achieve those money levels. And hell, 10k gold may be even too low tbh. AP casters offer mass aoe damage and/or cc. Poppy is just one of the hardest scaling assassins.
 

john!

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just because she has to take bot with a support doesn't mean you can't have another ad carry somewhere on your team.

and she can farm fine, she has a permanent ad steroid in fact, you just have to get used to her auto attack animation
 

I am number one

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iemchina games are so exciting! The chineses play completely different, much more entertaining to watch. wards everywhere and super aggression.
 

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Are people seriously trying to sell lessons?

ROFL

Hey guise, save yourself money. Watch tutorial videos on youtube and practice what you see with friends. You'll save money, learn a lot and have fun while doing it.

gg
 

Scamp

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I'll teach anyone how to get to my amazing 1264 ranked ELO for 20 McNuggets. Keep in mind that does include a win with every champion....one year ago.
 
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heyo, I recently started playing LoL (weekish ago) and I thought I'd drop in here. I main TF (started with fiddle, and though he's more fun when it works I'm terrible with him), and I'm having a ton of fun with dominion. I kind of have a lot of trouble killing enemies though. I know he's very squishy but even late game (dominion and 5v5) I can't seem to get kills. would anyone have advice?
 

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Poppy's great late game.
You just gotta GET her there without ****ing up. Or falling behind.
And that's why she's underused.

Tried Jungle Poppy the other day. Did just fine.
Also did Jungle Nasus. Wither is definitely my favorite spell in the entire game. :applejack:
 

DanGR

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I recorded the last 2 games of CL vs. SK if they happen to not be recorded by anyone else.

Saint did really well in that set. o.o
 

jpak

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To jpak

I remember reading you guys scrimmed vvv. We're set to play them next in the 3rd round of the mobafire tournament.

Any tips?

If we win this and one more match we'll be up against tsm lolol

Top 64 teams woot
Don't target bans against vfx, their captain, let him play whatever he wants. You should just feed off this guy really. They like vayne taric or taric + something. Easy to counter when you know its coming. Cho is a bannable champ against this team as Bruiseleet plays a really good Cho. You can ban some junglers too, if you're comfortable, I would leave Lee Sin open.

As for roaming, it's good against teams that haven't played against it before aka all non-NA top teams that were around when roaming was popular (CLG TSM Crs). It's also good if your team has unfavourable lane matchups. It really is a gamble, if it fails the roamer has cost you the game.
 

jpak

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In what? Solo queue? Spam one champ raise elo, this won't help you in tourney play. Having a team that plays lots of champions will help you a lot, so you don't get owned by targetted bans or baited into picks. Like the RS(Dignitas) v Curse match this weekend, RS baits them into swain, and caitlin pick because those are the only champs they play besides the banned ones lol.

For arranged play, just make a team and play plenty of 5s, there are good enough people on swf to make a decent team. Umm, every death should be viewed as a mistake you should look to correct like 1for1 or 1forturret deaths. It's not a mistake unless there is an obvious intended advantage you gained from it.

People should stop saying "don't worry i have flash if they come," losing flash is huge for most champions espeically melee. You will have very little team fight presence if you have no flash, like losing flash on udyr galio kennen is huge unless it is for a teamfight. Especially when someone gets caught and they go "don't worry i have/had flash."

Get good at a role, don't have to play a solo lane to carry your team. Not saying to play support but to give you an example, support has the ability to prevent every enemy gank with good clairvoyances, and all their abilities can change team fights dramatically. Good junglers and supports are hardest to find cause everyone wants solo mid or solo top :). oddone jungling changes a lot of games into solomid's favor imo...

just gain experience and understand why you died and lost the team fight so it doesn't happen ever again. idk im not that good so cant help that much :|
 

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so like here's a problem I've been running into lately

I don't feel like I'm doing deeps with teemo until like 35 minutes into the game (aka after I have bloodrazer/Wits end/black cleaver)

like is my job as teemo supposed to be to push top lane to the ends of the earth because unless I spend all game farming I never seem to get that 9-1-3 teemo scores I usually get.

I initially try to roam and ward up at or around level 8 but it seems as though I don't get enough gold that way so yeah

what must be done?
 
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