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PhantomX

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UTDZac said:
Lee Sin doesn't need any defense masteries. I've never once had issues with / regretted got 21 in offense.
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It mostly depends on the team comp. If we have very little tankiness I like to go the tankier spec. I guess I could also just 21-0-9 and grab more tanky items instead. I also REALLY like Wriggle's on him b/c of how hard he destroys the jungle w/ it and his passive.
 
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PhantomX said:
It mostly depends on the team comp. If we have very little tankiness I like to go the tankier spec. I guess I could also just 21-0-9 and grab more tanky items instead. I also REALLY like Wriggle's on him b/c of how hard he destroys the jungle w/ it and his passive.
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If you have very little tankiness I don't know why 0-21-9 wouldn't be superior to 1-19-10. 4% reduction on everything? The point in smite and extra buff duration just not worth it imo.
 
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The extra money from smite comes starts adding up and matters quite a bit when you consider junglers don't have much income, and extra buff duration is never a bad thing (particularly for red and barons). I feel like Lee is plenty tanky with the 19 points in defense without giving up too much utility and maximizing the usage of smite (both in CD and extra money).

0-21-9 could work as well, but you don't get the most out of smite. But I think it would be more viable on Lee than most 0-21-9 junglers b/c of his lack of true buff dependency.
 
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No, b/c that would mean they know how to balance...

They will probably do something stupid like reduce damage on Q's second hit, or shorten ranges, or increase energy costs across the board.

Though I guess reducing Q damage would be the best of those 3 if they wanna keep his passive like it is. Problem with Lee is that it is way too easy to keep energy up for all his skills... constantly.
 
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i have a question

is there like a good CS goal for the 10/20/30 min mark? normally i just tab to compare my cs with whomever im laning with, but i think id rather compare to a good average for the time

id be using akali btw.
 
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10 per minute is a good goal imo. take the minutes on the timer, subtract 2, multiply by 10, and if you have that many creeps then you're doing great. once laning phase is over, this doesn't apply, though.

also, it's currently possible to build a tear and guardian angel, and use guardian angel's active (a glitch spell from the most recent patch which doesn't do anything) to charge your tear. this is particularly good on singed and ryze
 
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Are you sure it doesn't?

I thought I'd noticed Baron timing out sooner on my smurfs when I'm playing w/ people that are 30 and have the mastery points in it.
 
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10 per minute is a great goal.

Consider that minions don't hit your lane til 2min mark. If you hit every creep thats 6 per wave (assume cannon minion doesnt exist). A wave spawns once per 30 seconds. So optimal is 12 cs per minute, but thats hard cause you have to back and buy items, and you will miss cs when you harass/ get harassed.

Regarding baron buff duration, it's unaffected by the utility mastery.
 
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It is a useful piece of information. For example, let's say they ninja a baron, or you forget to write down your baron time after you take it because there is a fight immediately after. You can wait till you see the opponents' baron buff indcatior, or your own expire, and since baron is a set 7 minute timer you can just add 3 minutes to your current timer, which is when baron will respawn.
 
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PhantomX said:
Are you sure it doesn't?

I thought I'd noticed Baron timing out sooner on my smurfs when I'm playing w/ people that are 30 and have the mastery points in it.
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It definitely isn't affected. If it was everyone on your team wouldn't lose it at once as not everyone runs increased buff time.
 
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They don't.

100 armor = 50% reduced. Say with 0 armor they'd do 100 damage to you.
At 100 armor, they'd do 50% less. Which is 50. They would have to do twice as much damage to get the same result.
At 200 armor they do 75% less damage. Which means they do 25. They have to do 4x as much damage to get the same result.
And so on.
The % values grow more slowly, but the ratio stays the same. Every 100 armor means they have to work exactly twice as hard to deal damage to you as they did before. Math has us fooled.

Though, that isn't to say that at some point it's still better to have some HP, just because with the % reduced damage, it will give you more effective HP than more armor would.
 
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What dekar meant was, there's a certain point where buying more armor/mr isn't as useful as each previous purchase. That point is dependant on your character's health and/or the opponent's items.
 
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Dekar173 said:
Streaming, dangr if you can peek at it tell me what you think might be the problem :X
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Where's your stream <_<

nvm found it

I really can't tell from the videos how to fix the problem. I need to know what settings you're using and what your computer is capable of.

For starters, try the following.
Put the fps at 30 and up the resolution to the highest below the HD settings.
Then edit your livestream's settings under the broadcast menu and lower the quality some (about 5-8), while lowering your max bitrate about 400 below your upload rate, and raising the buffer size by about 300 above that.

See if that helps.

Play around with those settings and see what works best. Took me about 6 hours to get it perfect and started worse than yours :o
 
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Teh Brettster said:
They don't.

100 armor = 50% reduced. Say with 0 armor they'd do 100 damage to you.
At 100 armor, they'd do 50% less. Which is 50. They would have to do twice as much damage to get the same result.
At 200 armor they do 75% less damage. Which means they do 25. They have to do 4x as much damage to get the same result.
And so on.
The % values grow more slowly, but the ratio stays the same. Every 100 armor means they have to work exactly twice as hard to deal damage to you as they did before. Math has us fooled.

Though, that isn't to say that at some point it's still better to have some HP, just because with the % reduced damage, it will give you more effective HP than more armor would.
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Wrong.

At 0, you have 0 resist.

At 100, you have 50% (like you said).

At 200, you have 66.6% (you said 75%)

At 300, you have 75% (you were off by 100).



The damage reduction/amplification equation for both armor and magic resist is-

X/(X+100) = damage reduction, where X is your magic resist or armor.



It DOES yield diminishing returns, if it didn't, this game would be a whole lot dumber.
 
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It's more that I didnt want to have to use any energy thinking to figure it out myself, so thank you. <3
 
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watching the scrims now :3

GGs on the inhouses everyone! lots of fun

Mogwai thanks for the invite !! any other time of the day i would have excitedly accepted
 
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