SamuraiPanda
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sadly corki doesn't counter twitch. he is retardedly fun though. shame they made manamune terrible otherwise I'd be really tempted to start picking him up.
SP, what are your thoughts on Tankplank?
Also, what runes and masteries do you go with?
Also, what runes and masteries do you go with?
Phospherus bomb doesn't count. You can't passively see stealthed units. You have to get lucky and hit one... not the same at all.
Actually, chatting with Iggy today I came up with a better idea. An item with an active that gives you sight of invisible wards for 15 sec, cooldown of 3 minute. It will be good for teamfights or scouting for wards, even jungling, but can't be up all the time to ruin stealthers completely, but it would make them more fair at low-mid ELO and will keep twitch from ruining your ability to jungle or push lanes.
Actually, chatting with Iggy today I came up with a better idea. An item with an active that gives you sight of invisible wards for 15 sec, cooldown of 3 minute. It will be good for teamfights or scouting for wards, even jungling, but can't be up all the time to ruin stealthers completely, but it would make them more fair at low-mid ELO and will keep twitch from ruining your ability to jungle or push lanes.
Bring gem of true sight into LoL!
oracles is close enough.
ruin`
Smash Journeyman
U guys just paranoid. Go jungle....btw whats with the new update? What'd it do?
fixed a number of absurd Karthus bugs that could either make Karthus completely invulnerable or never respawn because of the changes they made to his passive, lolololol.
supposedly it's not hotfixed though
john!
Smash Hero
SamuraiPanda
Smash Hero
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So after a series of bad teammates, I find myself in 1600 ELO hell with ******* as allies, furthering my spiral downwards. I'm very close to my breaking point of just tryharding with real characters again instead of sticking to GP. Also, the lower you go in ELO the more **** you get for high ELO builds. Its hilarious, really.
Although tbh, I really need to work on my AP Gragas builds again. The metagame shifts have not been kind to him and I need to lend him a helping hand, being my main and all. I just truly and honestly hate how bad casters are in the current metagame.
My runes are crit marks/quints, mp5 per level seals/glyphs. I run 19 offense 11 utility (points in tp, ghost, XP, and 3 in the mana regen mastery). Not that many people get the 21st point in offense since it only adds onto your base damage (damage without items), not your total damage, so its not very good at all.
Although tbh, I really need to work on my AP Gragas builds again. The metagame shifts have not been kind to him and I need to lend him a helping hand, being my main and all. I just truly and honestly hate how bad casters are in the current metagame.
Don't know why you'd go Tankplank. Bad idea. No reason to hit him. If you do though, get max CDR, Spirit Visage, and as much crit as you can since thats the only way to make him a threat in teamfights. Hm... I make it sound halfway decent. I almost want to try it out.
My runes are crit marks/quints, mp5 per level seals/glyphs. I run 19 offense 11 utility (points in tp, ghost, XP, and 3 in the mana regen mastery). Not that many people get the 21st point in offense since it only adds onto your base damage (damage without items), not your total damage, so its not very good at all.
Vyke
Smash Champion
I can safely say HoN was the least amount of fun I've ever had in 10 games of any RTS. Ever.
EVER.
EVER.
it's not RTS...
anyway, tankplank builds typically look like the standard fotm tank crap
hog
mercs
veil
omen
atma's
it's pretty strong from what I've seen but doesn't give that same sense of dread as a parley is flying at you. nothin' like dem critplank 1.2K parleys
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and for whatever it's worth, my laning pantheon build looks a lot like tankplank these days too. I go:
fort pot
boots
brutalizer
HoG
Ghostblade
new brutalizer
mercs
veil
omen
atma's
gives him a much much stronger lategame than balls to the walls offense does.
anyway, tankplank builds typically look like the standard fotm tank crap
hog
mercs
veil
omen
atma's
it's pretty strong from what I've seen but doesn't give that same sense of dread as a parley is flying at you. nothin' like dem critplank 1.2K parleys
.and for whatever it's worth, my laning pantheon build looks a lot like tankplank these days too. I go:
fort pot
boots
brutalizer
HoG
Ghostblade
new brutalizer
mercs
veil
omen
atma's
gives him a much much stronger lategame than balls to the walls offense does.
Vyke
Smash Champion
I know, but MOBA sounds really ****ing stupid and so does AOTS or whatever the original one was called. But you could argue that it requires some real... time... strategy?
Edit: Fort Pot before Boots? But I like the mobility so much!
Edit: Fort Pot before Boots? But I like the mobility so much!
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i agree in that the melee AD champs without a survival gimmick (i.e. xin's ult amor + mr boost or olafs inability to be disabled) need to be half talk to do well. even those champions generally get some health at the least. but against any high elo team, a strict attack damage panth will indeed get shut down. why garen so good? tank + melee dps.
Crossjeremiah
Smash Ace
So stacking those dorans blades. is viable. you see people in high elo stack 3-4 dorans blades then building into there core. why? cause it gives you alot of health and bit lifesteal to help you lane and a farm a little better.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Generally you stack them if you are forced out of lane early or have to B early so that you can make up for time spent at base, and to keep up with your opponent's laning.
Crossjeremiah
Smash Ace
Its not to make up time, its for more survivability in early team fights, if you watch high elo streams or look at the top players builds you will see they stack dorans, into there core item. like 3 dorans and a I.E is **** on trist. you can just lane and live longer. just b when you have enough money for some then go lane and **** faces... also kassadin best caster. well if you stack mana regen on him and mana runes you can and blue buffs around 15 minutes in you can nuke at 1000 per burst (R,Q,E) and if you can stack 8 end game thats 1360 dmg just for the rift walk. plus if you have AP like 300. thats ridiculous
Doran stacking is usually reserved for TT or VERY specific champs on SR. It's not some cookie cutter optimal or near optimal build for most characters. It can work on carries because they tend to be super squishy, and it's an effective way to get Health and Damage early on. On just about everyone else, you probably don't want to stack doran items.
Casters/Support probably don't want to stack Doran Rings.
Tanks probably don't want to stack Doran Shields. Same with Beefy DPS.
Even for carries, there are solid alternatives to that. Yes you can make stacking work, but it's not *amazing*.
Casters/Support probably don't want to stack Doran Rings.
Tanks probably don't want to stack Doran Shields. Same with Beefy DPS.
Even for carries, there are solid alternatives to that. Yes you can make stacking work, but it's not *amazing*.
Some Kassadin stacked Doran's Swords yesterday....
Also, I suck again.
Also, I suck again.
SamuraiPanda
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Sorry DMG, stacking Doran's Blades is the current strat for carries or any DPS that needs farm in general. It gives such a huge early advantage, and when you factor in selling them 3 doran's items are the equivalent of 2 elixers but they last far longer.
"It can work on carries because they tend to be super squishy, and it's an effective way to get Health and Damage early on. On just about everyone else, you probably don't want to stack doran items."
Is that too narrow?
Is that too narrow?
I actually usually get a second Doran's Ring on Morgana if I take solo top. It gives me health, AP and mana regen to stay in the lane longer and spam my Tormented Soil to keep enemies off my tower. Also means I can almost always have enough mana to throw up Black Shield, even if I'm already in the midst of fighting someone. That helps a ton when Pantheon tries to jump on your head.
Sadly, the rumors going round are that Morgana has some incoming nerfs in the patch following the Swain patch. Get ready to got another classic Riot overnerf!
Sadly, the rumors going round are that Morgana has some incoming nerfs in the patch following the Swain patch. Get ready to got another classic Riot overnerf!
w/e, I'd rather have her overnerfed than have to keep dealing with her bull****. I'm sorry but Morgana is pretty **** infuriating to play against. I completely assrape her for 15 minutes as Pantheon and it doesn't even matter because she needs absolutely nothing to give herself or her carry Olaf's ult with one of her basic abilities and then hit like a ****ing truck for absolutely no sensible reason, lol. I guess I can get over morgana most games, but uhg, it's still really frustrating to me that she basically just has everything going for her.
I think they should make her ult interruptable.
you totally can, you just have to kill her!
wait, what's that she's got there?
is that a z-ring..?
oh ****.......
wait, what's that she's got there?
is that a z-ring..?
oh ****.......
She'd probably be alright to deal with if her stupid Shield went away after absorbing 1, maybe 2 spells instead of just absorbing CC and multiple damage spells without breaking a sweat. Being able to block a single spell is already pretty powerful, being able to completely negate multiple spells on a CD shorter than Banshee Veil is a bit silly.
Then there's Z ring and sitting there while it goes on. Which is scary compared to Kennen or Fiddle doing that cause at the end you are guaranteed to get *****.
Then there's Z ring and sitting there while it goes on. Which is scary compared to Kennen or Fiddle doing that cause at the end you are guaranteed to get *****.
ruin`
Smash Journeyman
Morgana solution is as follows.
1st ban=kog maw/amumu/garen, 4th ban=morgana
2nd and 3rd ban=kog maw/amumu/garen ur 1st pick=Morgana
Guaranteed way to make sure u don't play vs morgana.
btw champs only double stack start items if they are losing their lane. If they were winning their lane, now point in OVER winning their lane with dorans items. Best to build into your core faster.
1st ban=kog maw/amumu/garen, 4th ban=morgana
2nd and 3rd ban=kog maw/amumu/garen ur 1st pick=Morgana
Guaranteed way to make sure u don't play vs morgana.
btw champs only double stack start items if they are losing their lane. If they were winning their lane, now point in OVER winning their lane with dorans items. Best to build into your core faster.
you'd think that, but panda is right that the FotM way to play carries is to stack 2-3 doran's blades before working on anything else. every twitch, kog, trist, and mf is doing it, pretty much regardless of how their lane is going.
I wish items were droppable in general.
pootTheBox
Smash Ace
SamuraiPanda found it on hotshots
http://www.own3d.tv/clgame#/watch/33331
http://www.own3d.tv/clgame#/watch/33331
But he didn't **** on them in that game.
SamuraiPanda
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That was actually like the game before I ***** him. He was Brolaf that game.
The game you found was the guy ranked #1 on the ladder being on my team (Laoching)... and feeding with Amumu... Yeah, my luck is awesome.
pre-season 1 I was NEVER impressed by laoching, a lilac, or ManyReason and even had the mnemonic device "ManyReason = Many Reasons to Queue Dodge", yet they're all fixtures in the top 25... it still blows my mind.
Crossjeremiah
Smash Ace
SO POST A RIDICULOUS BUILD YOU HAVE BUILT.
I actually did this in ranked 5 minutes ago. we had too much support so i went dps... yes this build would never work ever again, its just funny that we won this game we actually facerolled em
I actually did this in ranked 5 minutes ago. we had too much support so i went dps... yes this build would never work ever again, its just funny that we won this game we actually facerolled em
Ryze Guide!
PENTAKILL!
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Wait, did you solo pub? Get a group of people to play with. It gets infinitely better.
Are you going from LoL to HoN? There are a lot of differences that play a huge role in the games.
Yes, HoN has a very hostile community. It's all trolls.
After you get into HoN I can safely say it is really ****ing fun.
If you still have your trial account(I'm assuming you did the trial) we should play sometime!
Were you just getting out farmed, out leveled, ganked constantly? What was the factors that led it to be the worst game "EVER" for you? Yeah the community is pretty bad and full of a lot of *******. But, the game is **** good.
EDIT:
If you already used up your account here is a link to get a new one.
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/fbtrial.php
I've got 4 tests today and tomorrow so I won't be available til friday. I hope to play with some of you guys :D
EDIT2: If you want to get a hold of me add me on AIM (iamsinz) or message me in game SinZ(HoN)
Crossjeremiah
Smash Ace
recruiting in the lol forum xD