Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[_kSo_]

your team didn't support you well enough. you're playing Twitch ffs, it's always their fault, geez, l2p.

of course, why didn't i think of that

 

[L__]

I like Shaco still

 

[M3D]

Played in a game today as Anivia and we were getting crushed. I had a couple of idiots on my team that kept running into the jungle after enemies and then being "surprised" by the fact that three or more of them were waiting in a bush to kill them. So late game a Teemo at like half health pops out of the jungle and shoots our Olaf in the face and then runs into the jungle. Olaf turns to chase him in, RIGHT AT THE SAME BUSH WHERE HE DIED LAST TIME. So I threw up my Crystalize wall and blocked him from entering the jungle. He got all pissed and yelled at me but I just told him it was for his own good.

 

[Mogwai]

lol, anivia's way too pro.

 

[Pakman]

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[DanGR]

Couple weeks ago I played with MacLaren on accident. I didn't recognize the name until the game had started.

He ended up trolling during our ARAM game, intentionally breaking all the rules, and being a complete douche bag about it in the chat. It's funny until it actually happens to you.

 

[Sinz]

I did it too. :3

 

[M3D]

Oh man... Anivia is SOOOoooooo slow... lots of fun though. Just gotta remember to stay in the back. It's a major bummer her ult has such lousy range. If she had another 250 or so range on the spell cast she would rival Annie as a top caster. As it is, you have to wait until your teammates close the distance and some CC has been blown before you can really get in there and throw it up, unlike Annie who can use stun Tibbers to initiate.

 

[Mogwai]

Veigar is actually one of the top casters right now IMO. insta-gibbing with him is really strong and that's all a caster can really do right now. I still think Kass is the best caster, but I think Veigar is way higher than I've been willing to give him credit for in the past.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

I'ma have to agree with Mogwai on that one. Its true, Veigar is quite good and very underrated. With a DFG and a Void Staff, he makes games instant 4v5s, and after his burst he is still an asset to the team with his enormous AoE stun. Although, the best caster is probably still Morgana. Even though they stealth nerfed her ridiculous Zhonya/Ult combo.

And yes, Anivia is slow as balls, but she is really quite viable. Unlike Annie, she can actually continue to deal damage later in the game, which is a rare and very valuable attribute for casters to have. Unfortunately.

 

[Wobbles]

Mogwai: I love having Veigar on the team just because of how helps push towers. It's REALLY hard to defend when you're worried about him tossing Event Horizon, then having 5 people jump you and scamper off before your team can do anything. That threat is enough to make everybody panic.

Also, 1:1 ratio with enemy AP on his ult. Deeeeelicious.

 

[Vyke]

They didn't nerf Zhonya/Ult with Morg. I just saw a friend do it... three times in the same match. I'm not sure what people are talking about... That or they didn't do too good of a job patching that up.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Really? I just heard rumors about it and I could've sworn a Kennen in my last game used ZR and canceled his ult by accident, but I may be wrong.

I would imagine that sort of thing would be far to huge to NOT put in the patch notes, so I always doubted it.

Also, I want to find the game where I went godlike vs hotshot but I don't know where it would be

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Wow. I found it. Apparently Livestream automatically records all my streams, even the ones where I'm just fiddling with settings to get it to work.

And this one 2 hour segment is the ONLY VIDEO THAT DOESN'T WORK. Its over here: http://livestre.am/o5rP

If anyone can figure out how to get that to work, I will be greatly indebted to you.

 

[M3D]

Oh I wasn't saying Anivia isn't viable. I just think she's not quite as good as Annie. As for Veigar, I don't play him so I can't specifically comment. I am wary of getting caught in his fence, but I never really consider him a major threat. He is so slow and squishy that if he needs to be a target, you can easily make him one. Merc Treads kinda ruin him big combo too so I don't stress out about him too much. In fact, I easily out-laned a couple of them recently in middle with Anivia, which is the type of champ he's supposed to be countering, right? I kinda think the move for Veigar up to 2nd tier wasn't legit. As far as the squishier casters go, he's not as good as Kassadin, Annie or Anivia. Morgana and Vlad, depending on whether you look at them as "casters" or "off-tank/caster" (Vlad) or "off-support/caster" (Morg), are better than him as well. Lots of good options in that category.

I haven't tried the ZR/Morg Ult combo in the last week but I don't remember seeing that they "fixed" that in any patch notes. I know they wanted to fix how her and other channeled abilities work in relation to GA, but I don't remember ZR being on the hook for that one. Honestly, I do think its really unfair that Morgana and others can use ZR while channeling but activating it pops Nunu's ult early. Seems like his channel should get the same benefit everyone else's do. He would be insta-scary if they fixed that.

 

[DMG]

They didn't nerf Zhonya/Ult with Morg. I just saw a friend do it... three times in the same match. I'm not sure what people are talking about... That or they didn't do too good of a job patching that up.

Really? I just heard rumors about it and I could've sworn a Kennen in my last game used ZR and canceled his ult by accident, but I may be wrong.

I would imagine that sort of thing would be far to huge to NOT put in the patch notes, so I always doubted it.

Also, I want to find the game where I went godlike vs hotshot but I don't know where it would be

Im not sure what changes they were gonna do, but I HAVE seen some varying things.

1. Morgana uses Ult, uses ZR early on in the ult. She stands still, her shackles on other people disappear, and when she comes back they reappear if you were still in range and the ult takes effect as usual.

2. Morgana uses Ult, uses ZR very late where the Ult would normally end as she is in stasis. Here, I've seen the Shackles appear or not appear where the ult normally would end, either way with the end of the ult not happening even with people 100 range or closer.

 

[Deleted member]

main is taylorhj
my smurf is Mew2King
you jealous?
if he ever decided to play i'll have to donate the account to him. its above lvl 20 already...

i think its funny that on the leagueoflegends forums they talk about nonsense. its like gfaqs. and on the swf LoL thread, they talk strategy...

 

[DanGR]

Even though they stealth nerfed her ridiculous Zhonya/Ult combo.

Still works for Kennen. :<

I haven't played Morgana recently, tho.

 

[Frolossus]

Oh I wasn't saying Anivia isn't viable. I just think she's not quite as good as Annie. As for Veigar, I don't play him so I can't specifically comment. I am wary of getting caught in his fence, but I never really consider him a major threat. He is so slow and squishy that if he needs to be a target, you can easily make him one. Merc Treads kinda ruin him big combo too so I don't stress out about him too much. In f

anivia bursts harder and has more CC, shorter cooldowns, better passive, and more utility

speaking of anivia i finished my guide for her today

http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/8705-how-to-use-anivia-effectively.xhtml

 

[Vyke]

Anivia bursts harder until level 16, when Annie catches up and starts to pass her up.

But Annie is way easier to play and succeed with.

 

[Pakman]

I am undefeated on my new computer. I think the current count is at 5.

 

[Vyke]

So, official word from red-name Ezreal (Game Designer) is this:

Swain -> Unnamed Light Mage -> Irelia (Melee DPS) -> LeBlanc (Unknown, possibly the Sniper champion he was speaking about.). Another confirmed caster far off into the future named Aeon who is a Time-themed squishy physical-caster that is dps based... or some such. Three females in a row after Swain.

Edit: Scholar Kog'Maw confirmed to being made... but not released.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Swain is weeeeeird. Just played around with him. Took me awhile to figure out my skill order was garbage since his least obvious skill is the one that should be leveled first. And he's just... weird. Definitely the type of character that will take strategy and skill to play extremely well but could probably still be played at a decent level by noobs.

 

[Vyke]

Bah, you people and your Test Server. I remember awhile ago that getting an invite to Test Server consisted of participating in PTR Days hosted by Shurelia or somebody else. But I have no idea how I'd go about trying to get one these days.

Everyone I know that has one has had one for awhile now.

 

[M3D]

I play on the Mac, so I can't get on the TR.

anivia bursts harder and has more CC, shorter cooldowns, better passive, and more utility

speaking of anivia i finished my guide for her today

http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/8705-how-to-use-anivia-effectively.xhtml

Not a bad guide at all. That's a pretty standard build, although I go with Abyssal Scepter rather than a second Archangels because I like the AoE mpen effect and the bonus to my own magic resist.

I don't play Annie to argue with you about burst, but Annie's CC is probably more effective since its a stun, rather than a slow or a REALLY slow and hard to place stun. Also, its debatable about their passives. Annie being able to build up stuns comes into play way more often than Anivia's egg. She can also stun a whole crowd with Tibbers to make the first burst of a team fight go heavily in your team's favor. Anivia's ult doesn't have nearly as much utility.

 

[john!]

awesome guide fro! one thing though, i get haunting guise sometimes on anivia. some say it's a terrible item but the magic pen does wonders and usually gets me near true damage with runes and sorcs. plus anivia could always use the extra health and ap. i'll go roa, sorcs, aa staff, then usually a guise. what do you all think of this item?

also, idk how many of you play normal games, but the difference between those and ranked is astronomical. i can win 60-70% of normal games with new champs i haven't played, but lose 60-70% of ranked with champs i've played a few times. i'm starting to think it's just horrible luck. still have a 2/3 win rate with the bird in ranked, but i kind of want to not care about my low elo so i can mess around in ranked and play new champs. normal games are such a joke.

 

[john!]

okay. i just lost the past 9 games in a row. without counting my k/d, the other team had a huge k/d advantage on us almost every game. my luck with matchmaking is absolutely ****ing horrible. i need to get into a mid-high elo game somehow so i can prove that i don't belong in this ****hole. this is god **** ridiculous.

excuse my *****y tone, i'm tired lol

 

[Frolossus]

I play on the Mac, so I can't get on the TR.



Not a bad guide at all. That's a pretty standard build, although I go with Abyssal Scepter rather than a second Archangels because I like the AoE mpen effect and the bonus to my own magic resist.

I don't play Annie to argue with you about burst, but Annie's CC is probably more effective since its a stun, rather than a slow or a REALLY slow and hard to place stun. Also, its debatable about their passives. Annie being able to build up stuns comes into play way more often than Anivia's egg. She can also stun a whole crowd with Tibbers to make the first burst of a team fight go heavily in your team's favor. Anivia's ult doesn't have nearly as much utility.

the only thing annie can do is tibbers>to her cone thing for a bit of aoe damage, but in single target burst anivia should have more if you land E twice
and tibbers has a 200 second cd? when frostbite and glacial storm have like a 5 second one

awesome guide fro! one thing though, i get haunting guise sometimes on anivia. some say it's a terrible item but the magic pen does wonders and usually gets me near true damage with runes and sorcs. plus anivia could always use the extra health and ap. i'll go roa, sorcs, aa staff, then usually a guise. what do you all think of this item?

also, idk how many of you play normal games, but the difference between those and ranked is astronomical. i can win 60-70% of normal games with new champs i haven't played, but lose 60-70% of ranked with champs i've played a few times. i'm starting to think it's just horrible luck. still have a 2/3 win rate with the bird in ranked, but i kind of want to not care about my low elo so i can mess around in ranked and play new champs. normal games are such a joke.

welcome to elo hell!
but really your best bet to get out is duo with a good friend

 

[Pakman]

I have 1337 ELO. I think I might stop playing ranked now to keep it.

 

[DMG]

I have 1337 ELO. I think I might stop playing ranked now to keep it.

If you do that, decay will kick in and lower it anyways

 

[Pakman]

DRATS.

 

[M3D]

lol Pak...

@Fro, again, I'm not saying Anivia isn't a good caster, I just think (and the general consensus seems to be) that Annie is a little bit better. Yes, Tibbers is only up every 200 sec or so, but Annie can proc her passive by casting her magma shield and then stun with her others nukes. So she has the opportunity to bring that stun into play in just about every team fight, while Anivias egg, on the flipside, you are actively trying NOT to activate. You want to keep it off cooldown.

But hey, I'm playing Anivia, not Annie. I can definitely see where Anivia has her advantages. She can stun, slow, nuke and block. She has lots of room for clever tricks, which I think is awesome. Also, I'm about to try some tank Anivia today. lol...

 

[Mogwai]

and I'm saying I think Morgana, Veigar, and Kassadin are all ahead of Annie and Anivia.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

And I'm saying that Gangplank is AWESOME.

 

[Virgilijus]

SP, you make me want to play Gangplank more.

 

[Mogwai]

and I'm saying that Twitch is probably the most annoying piece of **** character to ever walk the earth. seriously, he's got the early game gayness of Eve's stealth coupled with the completely unique ability to just **** on an entire team in the late game, even with minimal offensive items. uhg, I'm getting really tired of playing vs. that ****er.

 

[M3D]

Twitch is mad annoying, not because you can't shut him down, but because he ruins you farm more than anything else. Want to jungle? Can't. Twitch is MIA. He will gank you. Want to push your lane? Can't. Twitch is MIA. He will pop out from behind you and double kill you. Want to stand in the middle and last hit? Can't... unless you go buy a ward/oracle and spend more of your precious early game farm on keeping him visible... OH... but now he can just hide in a bush. If you see enemy Twitch, bring an exhaust, get some oracles and late game he isn't that big of a threat... but you HAVE to mitigate him early-mid game and waste your gold, which sucks for carries and makes support champs less effective since they have to make most of the purchases.

EDIT: Just went 15-4-13 with Anivia. Lovin' it.

 

[ruin`]

Twitch getting on ur nerves? Counterpick slardar or bounty hunter obv

 

[M3D]

They need to make a champ who has a passive that lets them see invisible units. Would have to be pretty squishy to be fair, but working as a babysitter with a stealth unit in the game or as a ward killer, it would be an interesting champ to play. Counters Twitch and gives your team control over map awareness.

 

[Mogwai]

Slardar is such a prick, LOLOLOL.

seriously though high elo twitches are such a giant pain in the *** .