Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[john!]

so why isn't karthus used much in top elo? what is holding him back? i've been wrecking with him lately and he might be my new best champ. he's like a better anivia... more aoe damage, more single target damage over time, a better wall, and a passive that also punishes enemies for focusing you first in a team fight... with no cooldown. his damage and farming are ridiculous.

 

[-Vocal-]

so why isn't karthus used much in top elo? what is holding him back? i've been wrecking with him lately and he might be my new best champ. he's like a better anivia... more aoe damage, more single target damage over time, a better wall, and a passive that also punishes enemies for focusing you first in a team fight... with no cooldown. his damage and farming are ridiculous.

High skill cap, higher than Anivia's. Plus people there always buy Banshee's, which will often be up to block the ult

edit: On another note, after playing Karma again I've decided she's not half bad now. The cd buff to her W helped SO much now, and it's actually what I've decided to max first - having that strong of a haste for multiple people every couple seconds is powerful. True, she can't save a person being focus fired by 4 people like Janna can, but I think she's still very viable. Not Janna =/= trash

 

[DanGR]

LMAO Nidalee's so broke in this format in soloqueue.


Just got a 20 minute inhib up top when our other lanes were like 2-10 and no towers.

All my games with Nidalee since last patch:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2n21afc.png

 

[-Vocal-]

LMAO Nidalee's so broke in this format in soloqueue.


Just got a 20 minute inhib up top when our other lanes were like 2-10 and no towers.

All my games with Nidalee since last patch:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2n21afc.png

And this is precisely the reason why she's my next buy xD Was already planning to get her but push power is SO STRONG this patch

 

[Frolossus]

so why isn't karthus used much in top elo? what is holding him back? i've been wrecking with him lately and he might be my new best champ. he's like a better anivia... more aoe damage, more single target damage over time, a better wall, and a passive that also punishes enemies for focusing you first in a team fight... with no cooldown. his damage and farming are ridiculous.

1. he is squishy as balls
2. his wall has fewer uses
3. just kill him and stay away from his ghost and he does nothing
4. don't think his abilities scale as well as anivia's

also hextech anivia's ingame model is amazing
http://lol.zone.gamebase.com.tw/zone/lol/skin_view

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

Can someone tell me how to gank effectively with Nunu.

Like after I clear the jungle I get about 2 ganks on average. However once I go back to base I can no longer gank effectively. Does anyone know good tips to gank?

 

[PhantomX]

You need to try to gank lanes that are being pushed, preferably where the opponent hero has been harassed some so you don't try to gank at full health without a hard stun. Don't consider it a failed gank if they happen to escape by using a summoner spell. If they blew one to get away from you it means they won't have it later when they need it/you come gank again.

If you're jungling ganking isn't the only thing you want to do anyway, you need to make sure to ward and secure your jungle, and, I guess since you're Nunu, you could try to mess w/ theirs some.

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

You need to try to gank lanes that are being pushed, preferably where the opponent hero has been harassed some so you don't try to gank at full health without a hard stun. Don't consider it a failed gank if they happen to escape by using a summoner spell. If they blew one to get away from you it means they won't have it later when they need it/you come gank again.

If you're jungling ganking isn't the only thing you want to do anyway, you need to make sure to ward and secure your jungle, and, I guess since you're Nunu, you could try to mess w/ theirs some.

Thank you for putting enemies burning their summoners spells in perspective . That happened multiple times and I felt like I failed. I even got yelled at =( Like it was my second time jungling with Nunu, and I thought I did a really good job keeping everything warded.

Say I'm trying to gank bot lane. The tank is about half life, and the squishy is full. Should I aim tank or squishy?

 

[Turazrok]

One thing I love about jarvan is forcing flash :X

Flash has 2x the cd of his ulti, so you can effectively guarantee the kill next time it's up.

 

[PhantomX]

Thank you for putting enemies burning their summoners spells in perspective . That happened multiple times and I felt like I failed. I even got yelled at =( Like it was my second time jungling with Nunu, and I thought I did a really good job keeping everything warded.

Say I'm trying to gank bot lane. The tank is about half life, and the squishy is full. Should I aim tank or squishy?

That really depends on who has what summoners and what sort of regen they have (like pots vs no pots). If you can you usually want to go for the squishy since they tend to be easier to take down, but they usually have some sort of escape mechanism and the tank will tend to try to help them. If they start to get away just switch focus to the tank (unless you can get a kill off a quick dive and survive, preferably). Even if they don't die, if they use up summoners and are both forced to back you can get an easy tower which gives map control and global gold/exp.

 

[Wobbles]

NeverKnowsBest:

Whoever will die. Remember tanky champs with half health are still harder to kill than squishies. Sometimes they'll have 40+ more resists or whatever, and that half health might mean 600 health as opposed to 700 with crummy resists on the full health squishy. Be aware of that stuff, some champs are really good at refusing to die.

Also remember that tankier champs often have the disables and moves to save teammates. So sometimes CC'ing them and just focusing them down is easier than trying to kill the squishy (who usually packs an escape mechanism like flash or a blink move) because the squishy will have their support.

It really just depends. Generally I just try and get the person who is most likely not to survive.

 

[Frolossus]

on the ladder page what is the + number in parenthesis by your name?

 

[-Vocal-]

on the ladder page what is the + number in parenthesis by your name?

I believe that's how much you've moved since it was last updated

 

[StealthyGunnar]

so what do u guys think about ryze postpatch?

 

[DanGR]

Got a big buff, imo. Not one of the top mages yet, however.

 

[jpak]

nunu is a counter jungler. counterjungle with him

 

[Virgilijus]

Dan, your avatar frightens me.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Got a big buff, imo. Not one of the top mages yet, however.

so would u go with the regular mega-ap build, or the newer mana/CDR build which makes u cast reload many times within the same stun, but not much ap?

 

[jpak]

dont get ap, get mana. manamune/arachangel, banshee, glacial shroud, mpen boots

 

[Evanms]

Tear first double catalyst banshees archangle! Gogo hard counter veigar ap-less caster!

@Turaz
Hurr durr that's the whole point with any gank lol.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

srry if this is a ridiculous questions, but is this supposedly better option even viable? like is he still a viable mage? will i be getting kills with this build at all?

 

[Turazrok]

Let me say something stupid as I pretend to be amazing.

Why yes it is the point, however since Jarvan's ult is point and click it is, in a manner, idiot proof.

Well IDK about that.

Also stop trolling you grilled cheese.

 

[PhantomX]

srry if this is a ridiculous questions, but is this supposedly better option even viable? like is he still a viable mage? will i be getting kills with this build at all?

It's stronger than building AP with him at the moment. It makes him a good mage, but not one of the top tiers, imo.

 

[DanGR]

Dan, your avatar frightens me.

You'd think it was hilarious if you've seen the video it came from.

srry if this is a ridiculous questions, but is this supposedly better option even viable? like is he still a viable mage? will i be getting kills with this build at all?

He scales with MANA, so yeah it's good.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

well i know his q did but his spell flux too?

 

[PhantomX]

Not spell flux, but his snare and his Q (which has pretty much nonexistant CD) scale w/ mana, so obviously you'd prioritize that. Plus extra mana means you can keep the spam up longer. Spell Flux is minimal priority in this Ryze.

 

[-Vocal-]

Additionally, you get pretty heft cd from Frozen Heart, so all in one item you get survivability, strength, and cooldown. It's great on him.

In other news, I think I'm gonna go on a big support kick. Played some Karma and Janna lately and just loved it - it's pretty cool to be that person that saves someone's life or hands them the kill

 

[Dastrn]

Solo queue ranked is so bad.

This is 3 of my last 4 games.

 

[PhantomX]

LOL you played against a PhantomX714... wtf.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I really, really, REALLY, hate the new metagame. This pushing style is so ******** imo, can't wait til they fix the creeps.

 

[jpak]

all these normals have made me better at solo laning yesss

 

[PhantomX]

I know! I used to dread it when you chose a solo lane character... because I knew that if you died early you were going to feed unstoppably, lol.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

i remember i used to solo mid all the time when i first started playing LoL. but now after letting others take mid and laning with a partner, i dont take mid or a solo lane much anymore.

ill mostly only solo if we have a jungler. then ill go like vlad and solo top or something

 

[-Vocal-]

i remember i used to solo mid all the time when i first started playing LoL. but now after letting others take mid and laning with a partner, i dont take mid or a solo lane much anymore.

ill mostly only solo if we have a jungler. then ill go like vlad and solo top or something

I've always preferred solo lanes, but I think that's because I've traditionally played ad and ap carries. Slowly getting used to side lane life, though

 

[jpak]

dear junglers and dragon lovers,
dragon is not that important! dont force a fight for it if you think there is any chance youll lose! you can give up three dragons and win real easy.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

I've always preferred solo lanes, but I think that's because I've traditionally played ad and ap carries. Slowly getting used to side lane life, though

same. i used to play annie all the time, and went mid a ton. then i started playing support/tanks and started side laning more.

 

[S l o X]

wes you should do a jarman video / send me a replay of you playing jarman.

 

[Zolga Owns]

Mid AP Shaco is tons of fun.

 

[-Vocal-]

Mid AP Shaco is tons of fun.

Guardsman Bob has streamed mid AP WW several times (funny thing is that it works lol)

 

[Zolga Owns]

Yeah, I wanna try that sometime.
I would nuke 1/5th of Ashe's health at level 2 with Shiv. lolol on a 5 sec cooldown with CD reduction. AT LEVEL 2