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Got a question! Sheik Q&A & FAQ

BRoomer
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Sheik is strong enough to win against good players. Obviously though no one is there yet. I don't count armada because that meta/snake was horrible.

Also I have slept in a few days and I'm cranky.
 

Crossjeremiah

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its playful. nothing against you guys. id make a asian sheik with slanty eyes. and i'm asian my self its nothing but a joke. if it offends you then im sorry.
 

rathy Aro

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Sheik/Zelda is strong enough to win against good players. Obviously though no one is there yet. I don't count armada because that meta/snake was horrible.
+1

I give Armada props but I don't think he took sheik to that level yet.I think she needs Zelda though to make up for some otherwise hopeless matchups. But as far as I'm concerned she can take MK, game and watch, falco, and snake, all within reason. I actually think those matchups will get closer to even as people push sheik closer to her limits.

We just need someone really good, who actually mains her. I put my money on light for first tourney win with sheik. On that note, does ryoko go to tournies?
 

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i plan on winning florida gaming, (or alteast placing really high :)). The only thing holding me back is a horrible zelda, (cuz zelda is horrible (lol, no... well yeah that is true, but I need a good zelda to sit down and teach me) an inability to kill at high percents and more experience with the Meta match up. I can beat top GaWs, Marths, D3s, even ICs.
 

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hahaha, there are like two or so good ones that have just popped on the scene. Apparently they on or past Lain's level and junk according to HRnut.
 

J4pu

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I have trouble getting Ftilt to lock chars like fox and falco, what am i doing wrong? they get out after one or 2 hits, and since i've had other people do a ton of ftilts on my falco before i know it works (at least sometimes).
 

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sounds like you are doing it too early you have to start at 30+ percent.
 

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it's very unsafe
How so? It's looks to be a great way to avoid a Rock Paper Scysurs senerio when closing in for a grab and even if you fail only to get punished your enemy is limited to either dash attacks or long range. Although that wont really matter against such like Marth, meta knight, DK...so on I can see it being worth the risk in other match ups.

With that said it is slower in grabbing speed and ..more cool down right? I forget the cool down frame data compared to standing grab and dash grab but I think it's like 30 standing grab ..55 dash grab?

edit: 46, well **** that's what I get for not caring about cool down.
 

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it was a b-reversed needle charge right when sheik got off the ledge, it changed the shape of her body so she still landed on the ground

it's the same thing as b-reversing, nothing more, sheik just looked funny cuz she fell off the ledge and moved weird
 

Lotopius

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Yep, looks like you pivoted a neutral b while being halfway off the edge. Because the animation of charging needles is... broader than the standing animation, the game slided sheik slightly back onto the stage (a bit like how you slide when you're inside a character model).
 

saviorslegacy

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it was a b-reversed needle charge right when sheik got off the ledge, it changed the shape of her body so she still landed on the ground

it's the same thing as b-reversing, nothing more, sheik just looked funny cuz she fell off the ledge and moved weird
Ahhhhh... thought it was something along those lines. Thank you for clearing it up.
*looks depressed*
 

BRoomer
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it always looks like that when you revese needles on the ground. You still are reverse the momentum.
 

Fhd

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i have a ?, in vids like gimpyfishes combo vid, teh ftilts were very fast and rapid, im not a great sheik so can someone telll me how to do it so fast, i tried ftilting as fast as i can and it doesnt work
 

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New question: How many of MKs moves can beat out the chain(non-jacketed)? I know the chain beats tornado, but for some reason I have trouble with the drill rush. Does drill rush beat chain? Or is my timing just off?
 

Zankoku

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Mach Tornado, Drill Rush, and dair can all beat the chain if you don't time it just right.
 
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