It's not me who's saying I hate item (or the opposite) I prefer both depends on what I'm doing and how I'm playing. I don't understand his need to express his hate for items. Smash was made so it could be both, it's not a traditional one on one fighting game nor is it a aimless party game. Thats one of the things that is cool about it. No need to hate an aspect of the game you don't even have to use.
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Gimpyfish's Brawl Impressions - Brawl Talk Episode 1 Added
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Bowsers entrance is one of the coolest by far. he pretty much walks directly out of freaking fire. Ike comes out of some seal looking thing. Meta Knight I think like comes out of his cape (think how he does it in the first trailer) but I could be wrong on that one.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Pit's recovery looks just as broken as Peach's. (I wanted to say that a page ago, but I'm far too late. I was beaten to the punch a few times already.)
BrianM
Smash Journeyman
It looks a bit better, actually.
GOTM
Smash Champion
definitly gave me more information about some of the stages that i wanted to hear. thanks again gimpy 
Zink
Smash Champion
Ike's entrance looks like someone used a Warp Staff on him, if you've played Fire Emblem. Bowser's is awesome lol, fire teleport.
Anyway, most of the entrances and taunts can be found in the gameplay videos.
Anyway, most of the entrances and taunts can be found in the gameplay videos.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
I'd say it evens out where Peach is more horizontal while Pit is more vertical. But overall they look just as useful. If Pit's uB doesn't do any damage, and Peach's Parasol is still broken as hell, then I say Peach's will be better. But if Pit's does any damage OR Peach's Parasol has been nerfed... I'm gonna say even-steven.
L_Cancel
Smash Champion
Wow! Best source of organized "E for All" information on all of smashboards! Thanks for doing such a great job with the updates, Gimpyfish! =]
BrianM
Smash Journeyman
Er, actually, I think it looks as though Peach's parasol goes a bit higher, so I might be contradicting myself a little bit, but I still think Pit's recovery will end up being better than Peach's. Also Pit still has really good horizontal recovery regardless.
Red Exodus
Smash Master
I hate Peach, I've grown to hate her more than usual as a Mario main. I hope she doesn't own Mario as much as she did in Melee, she's just a ***** to kill, she never dies >.>
BrianM
Smash Journeyman
Mario got a big boost, but the wrath of Peach shall still conquer!
Zink
Smash Champion
new update- shield drop and jab cancel, cool
also, we found an Ike video where a guy uses over b to get back to the stage, he only uses it once though so we can't tell if it leaves you in "landfallspeciallag". Anyway, it appears to have a similar range to falco's, maybe a bit less, although it's hard to tell.
OH YEAH, almost forgot, but in one of the Ike vids it appears that he gets hit OUT of his FS. He doesn't get to do the first hit, so it might be a miss, but he recoiled away from a hit so it looks like you aren't invincible during them, or at least Ike isn't lol.
also, we found an Ike video where a guy uses over b to get back to the stage, he only uses it once though so we can't tell if it leaves you in "landfallspeciallag". Anyway, it appears to have a similar range to falco's, maybe a bit less, although it's hard to tell.
OH YEAH, almost forgot, but in one of the Ike vids it appears that he gets hit OUT of his FS. He doesn't get to do the first hit, so it might be a miss, but he recoiled away from a hit so it looks like you aren't invincible during them, or at least Ike isn't lol.
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
His Aether attack has also been confirmed to be able to do up to 22 damage if you catch them in the spinning part of the sword.
Jab canceling is in! that's a good thing! Any characters so far who seem like they can use it to combo from their A attacks without punishment?
Jab canceling is in! that's a good thing! Any characters so far who seem like they can use it to combo from their A attacks without punishment?
Correction to Gimpy's post: holding one direction with the regular stick and c-sticking in a second direction will be a SMASH ATTACK in the c-stick direction, not a tilt.
Zink
Smash Champion
So does that mean you could crouch cancel with diagonal down and still dmash with c-stick down? If so, Samus and Peach's CCC might be saved!
KirbySSB
Smash Ace
yo I thought on the hub you said you COULDN'T drop with a shield up? how does it work
I did say that, because I tried it and I just spot dodged. So Gimpy will have to clarify who did it and how.
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
Hey, not sure if Gimpster mentioned this, but you can roll off the side of the stage and grab the edge.
plasman
Smash Apprentice
He did, it's in the updates about edgehogging I think but I might be wrong. I do know it's in there somewhere though.
Zink
Smash Champion
Rolling off the edge is covered under hugging.
the last day i had like 5 smashers tell me that you could do it, i never did though *shrug*
Speedsk8er
Smash Champion
Note: You can shield drop in Melee also. The timing's just REALLY tricky. Maybe Brawl has Melee's shield drop timing?
Sir James
The Doctor
I'm glad I checked this again. It seems like L-Canceling is back in! I have a feeling they may take out wavelanding though.
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
I just saw a vid where it showed that Ike's f-B does indeed leave you helpless. It also suicides you if you do it off the edge of a stage. Just like Captain Falcon's >b actually.
SirroMinus1
SiNiStEr MiNiStEr
This topic is truely FOR THE WIN!
these updates rock gimpyfish.
but you dont like the acww stage o well not everyone is the same.
these updates rock gimpyfish.
but you dont like the acww stage
o well not everyone is the same.
Anomilus
Smash Lord
EDIT: I'm changing my stance slightly on this after some extra examination of the said item.
People keep calling this thing a Gordo, an invincible big-eyed floating spikey enemy from the Kirby series...
I'm still 100% it is not a Gordo, but now I'm starting to believe it is not a Geemer as well (although this item better resembles a Geemer than a Gordo).
As you can see, it's nothing like what's in Brawl.
As this pic shows though, this thing doesn't really look like a Geemer either. Unseen in the pic, this thing is round and spikey all the way around, like a Gordo, but it has far more spikes than a real Gordo would have (and they've been portrayed in 3-D before).
Sorry for the misinformation. Hopefully my correction will go noticed.
Fizz-sama
Smash Ace
Wow...0_0...not good at all.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
@Anomilous:
Good find. But it's probably not an AT for the same reason Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Octoroks, Like-Likes, and Re-Deads aren't ATs: because they're only minor enemies.
Good find. But it's probably not an AT for the same reason Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Octoroks, Like-Likes, and Re-Deads aren't ATs: because they're only minor enemies.
Anomilus
Smash Lord
Yeah, that's what I figured. It's just that these enemies haven't come out of crates or capsules like in Melee. On more than one occasion it appears out of thin air.
...It's a strange coincidence, but I think both of those appearances happened right around Samus. o.O
...It's a strange coincidence, but I think both of those appearances happened right around Samus. o.O
Okay, if aerials that hit the ground are an instant L-cancel, then the SHFF should just activate its own L-cancel, right?
But I could've sworn in one of the first videos I saw that a Mario did his uair just before he hit the ground, and he landed in his "squished on your head" animation instead of a lagless normal landing.
But I could've sworn in one of the first videos I saw that a Mario did his uair just before he hit the ground, and he landed in his "squished on your head" animation instead of a lagless normal landing.
festizzio
Smash Champion
Ike's side b has the potential for a lot more range than Falco's side b, simply because you can charge it to your heart's content, just like Pikachu's side b and Jigglypuff's rollout. Also, the more you charge it, the more powerful it is. And it gets to be reeaaally powerful. Mindgames + speed + power = broken side b?
it is still called a shffl, not a shff. you CAN short hop fast fall an airial and NOT l cancel it if you do the airial THEN fast fall, so its STILL a shffl. please dont call it a shff.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
So I was curious as to what Zamus' dB move was, but I havn't been able to find out on the boards what it was. So I went onto Smashwiki to see what was written there. I mean, even if it was a tentative name, it could give me just a slight idea what it did. But to my dismay, the move has NOT been named or even described.
Am I to understand that Zamus was playable at EforAll but NOBODY WHO PLAYED AS HER attempted to perform her dB!? HELP!
Am I to understand that Zamus was playable at EforAll but NOBODY WHO PLAYED AS HER attempted to perform her dB!? HELP!
festizzio
Smash Champion
So that's why people get hit by Jigglypuff's rollout?
Falco&Victory
Smash Champion
people don't get hit by jiggs rollout
Speedsk8er
Smash Champion
That's why T0mmy hits people with Pichu's skull bash?
Sir James
The Doctor
If SHFFL is back then I don't see why people are complaining about advanced techs being removed. Wavedashing is by no means necessary to win a competitive game. It's all about reducing lag and using mindgames. This news of the return of the SHFFL is awesome news gimpyfish, thanks!
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