Gimpyfish's Brawl Impressions - Brawl Talk Episode 1 Added

[bossyjellyfish]

Thanks for the updates!

 

[-Wolfy-]

Heh, looks like Gimpy started the Bowser craze.

Did you know in the Super Mario Bros game, whenever you reached the Koopa King fights in the respective 4th section of a world, you could use fire mario's fire balls to expose Koopa King as a goomba?

If you throw fireballs at Gimpyfish he actually reveals himself to be the real bowser. No joke.

He is the Bowser craze.

 

[SPAWN]

Are there any matches up somewhere of good people at Brawl.

Aka any matches of Gimpy/Hugs/etc?

If someone could gimme some links, that'd be awesome.

 

[9bit]

God**** February 10th!

I needs me some Brawl.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I gather from the first page that Gimpy and Hugs had the first ever brawl money match, I'd have liked to see that. Besides the two terrible videos from yesterday, I have yet to see any of decent players..

 

[Elysium]

Did you know in the Super Mario Bros game, whenever you reached the Koopa King fights in the respective 4th section of a world, you could use fire mario's fire balls to expose Koopa King as a goomba?

If you throw fireballs at Gimpyfish he actually reveals himself to be the real bowser. No joke.

He is the Bowser craze.

Oh man that was good. Funniest thing i've read in awhile.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Boozer Cute turned me on to Bowser. I always liked him, but never saw how I could perfect him, now I use him along with C Falc, pretty interchangeably. I look up to gimpy alot. -edit-not in a gay way.

 

[froz3ntear]

Hmm Invincibility frames are still in? I never liked the ability for people to infinitely stall on the edge with invincibility frames, but I guess being more floaty will let other characters hit them. Can you still be completely invincible on the edge?

 

[-Wolfy-]

I wish we could get a vid of the first ever moneymatch on brawl. We're missing all these first's.

 

[Paradigm]

Yes, you can still be completely invincible on the edge for a short period of time. Seems you can grab onto the ledge much easier now. No word yet on infinte stalls (yet). The floatiness seems like it'll screw up a lot of edge stuff we've got in Melee, our edgegames are likely to take quite a bit of development, distancing themselves from Melee's.

 

[$ick]

Gooood **** Gimpy. Representin Socal as **** before Brawl is even out, too good.

 

[Silent_X]

Not sure if this has been said yet in this thread(hey I read more than half of the thread)
But this IS a demo, the physics and such might not be in their final state.

There is still about 3-4 months left of development time.

 

[Prime Time]

To be honest, this is totally my opinion only obviously, I think they are just suffering from internal issues, such as, maybe just getting the Sonic deal going and perhaps pursuing another character or something...but that is just total spectulation

 

[Professor X]

3-4 months of develoment time? Really?

The game will be distributed all across North America by February 10, which is less than four months away. How long do you think that takes to ship? How long to manufacture the disks? And how long before they begin manufacturing does development cease?

Also consider the interview with the translator that revealed he's getting the Dojo updates 3-5 weeks ahead of time. Add it all together, and I really doubt that the game is going to be developed very much beyond what may have been intentionally modified for demo purposes.

 

[coolhat]

oh my godddd new AT's make me horny a littlllleee

 

[Y34HDUD3!!!]

Eh did you guys notice that in this SE vid (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26689.html) at one point Mario stops in his tracks before running into Kirby and F-smashes him in the face? (it's near the end)

Some sort of tech?

 

[Atlus8]

Let me explain the demo: Isai

 

[manacloud1]

mew2king

WOW IKE AND FOX ARE THE WORST SO FAR?


Wow this freaking sucks for me with all the hours I spent playing them.

stfu and stop complaining.

 

[Glinth]

See if MK's dimensional cape can be used in air, and if so, see if he'd be able to perform a wavedash
by DC'in diagonally... just a thought...

 

[Zauron]

Eh did you guys notice that in this SE vid (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26689.html) at one point Mario stops in his tracks before running into Kirby and F-smashes him in the face? (it's near the end)

Some sort of tech?

Looks like that's the new Tumble move we've been talking about (the one Ink figured out you could cancel out of).

 

[Chiroz]

Zauron could you explain that move further, because I read all 34 pages on Gimpy's thread (even though it explains the move on the first post) and I still don't get what exactly does it do, I only know how its done.

 

[GaryCXJk]

Zauron could you explain that move further, because I read all 34 pages on Gimpy's thread (even though it explains the move on the first post) and I still don't get what exactly does it do, I only know how its done.

Hehe, 34. As in, Rule #34.

Never mind.

But anyway, this is basically what is meant:

The Ink Drop is basically a trip. It is caused by trying to dash dance, but doing it too late. Actually, I think it's caused by dashing in one direction, and then trying to dash in the other direction. Because the character still has a forward momentum while turning around (or trying to turn around), the character still moves forward. Because in reality when trying this out, you will trip. I think Sakurai tried to achieve the same effect, just for the lulz.

But, it appears you can cancel this movement.

 

[Zauron]

Well I've not played the demo either, but from what I understand, it just makes you fall over, then roll back up again. You tripped. That's it. The only reason its interesting is Ink's discovery that you can cancel the falling over animation directly into an attack. Which means, if I understand correctly, that you can dash forward, run past someone, mash the other direction, which causes you to go into the trip/fall animation, but then immediately cancel the trip into an attack. Essentially, allowing you to attack someone with a non-Dash attack instantly out of a dash, particularly someone behind you. Hence "Pivot Dash Cancel", or, in other words, pivoting (facing the other way) which cancels you out of your Dash and allows you to immediately attack.

 

[Vortok]

Is the "Random" slot in the demo?

Yeah, it's there. It just shows a ? on the character select screen if you use it. You won't know who you get until the match starts. I didn't find a Melee version of random (beyond turning the player/cpu on and off), but I didn't search too hard for it. We didn't have Melee's version 'til all chars were unlocked, though.

As for FLUDD. I'd say the range is roughly that of Samus's extra long grapple beam. I wasn't able to use it effectively, though the animation didn't appear to change with charged vs. uncharged.

If Ink Drop (nevermind the cancel) is an official tactic, that's all the more reason to not rename it yet as then we'd end up with renaming it twice, not once. Just wait it out for now. Also, Ink Drop does sound seksay.

 

[knightpraetor]

are shield guessing games removed? or was the lag on most aerials decreased to the point where you have time to spotdodge/ roll before getting shield grabbed?

 

[Y34HDUD3!!!]

Oh well. We'll see.

 

[Phlemingo]

So is gimpy updating this thread tommorow?

 

[Xanskarr]

Gimpy, bombs are still pullable by peach. Look at this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=8bnZtU5c8Qw

It's the second or third pull that she pulls a bomb.

 

[Japanese Monk]

Any new info in the podcast or no?

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

yay sonic is good

 

[squiser]

Sorry if this has been said...I'm too lazy to read all the pages >_>

So if invincibility frames are still in when grabbing the edge, and it's now easy to sweet spot the edge...let's say with Link's Up+B. Wouldn't it be terribly easy to ledge drop -> up+b -> grab ledge over and over again, even if the characters were made floatier?

 

[Prime Time]

all i need is sonic and mario in the game..then ill be happy forget all of those other characters =D

 

[KirbySSB]

Sorry if this has been said...I'm too lazy to read all the pages >_>

So if invincibility frames are still in when grabbing the edge, and it's now easy to sweet spot the edge...let's say with Link's Up+B. Wouldn't it be terribly easy to ledge drop -> up+b -> grab ledge over and over again, even if the characters were made floatier?

I think cause of the "edgehug" its easy to interrupt that kind of stalling

 

[squiser]

I guess, but if we're talking up+b moves here, you'd have to grab the edge just as he drops or you'll be hit by the up+b, no? Is there a vid of edge hugging somewhere? >_> Will it be fast enough?

 

[BigRick]

I wanna play Ike. He looks so cool.

 

[Titan05]

Thanks Gimpy! It appears that some people have gotten hope from this thread.

 

[Chiroz]

I guess, but if we're talking up+b moves here, you'd have to grab the edge just as he drops or you'll be hit by the up+b, no? Is there a vid of edge hugging somewhere? >_> Will it be fast enough?

Well if your opponent is constantly doing it, then you could try and stop him by edge hugging and if done and timed correctly could end up taking a stock away from your opponent, then again, your opponent might try and trick you into trying to edge hug him and then just end up making you dash off the stage while he is still grabbing on the edge.

 

[squiser]

^Yeah that's what I'm thinking...seems like the guy on the edge has too much of an advantage.

 

[Devastlian]

Nice bunch of information, Mr. Gimpy. Thx.

Somewhat random question (for anyone, really): From all of the times you won with Bowser, were you able to tell if he (along with Peach, perhaps) has a different victory theme from Mario this time around similar to how Meta Knight has a different one from Kirby? It sounds like Link has a different victory theme as well; could you hear any difference?

Also, does Bowser still have his rather awesome spinning and/or clawing (and/or his less awesome roaring) victory poses? Do the characters have a different number than three this time around? Also, could you influence which victory pose your character did like in SSBM by holding a button?

Finally, with enough practice with it, could you see yourself using the Classic Controller on the same level as the GCN contoller?

One more thing...could someone please play through the SSE demo and try and play as Zelda? 'Cause Zelda's awesome and she should be teh buffz0rz3d and stuff.

Thx.

 

[ShortFuse]

Thank you GimpyFish! I'll be sure to add this stuff to the my Advanced Techniques thread.

I have one more VERY IMPORTANT brawl question...

How tight is security? DiscSteal option? Take disc, dashdance a bit and jet out the door. Use friends as obstructions?

Perhaps you need to use some advanced techniques like BBB (Booth-Babe-Bribing)