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I completely agree with you, Karn. At the high levels of competition, the top 8 is usually made up of a variety of top tier characters. MK probably makes up about 3 or 4 of those top 8 but not as bad. If you play a character that has a bad matchup with MK, then you should really consider picking up a secondary asap. That's the main reason I chose to main Falco. He has very even matchups across the top tier and zero to deaths almost all of the low tiers. He struggles when he gets to the Marth-Rob tier area, but not many people main those characters in NC.Looking at the absolute top level of play in Brawl right now, I'm beginning to think that MK is not as broken at that level of play as I originally though. However, he is still stupidly dumb up until like the absolute top level of play. @_@
Don't worry, I didn't assume anything.Bill, for clarification, I merely talked to Omni about his tournament. I did not take sides on PRs or anything else in that regard.
Don't hate me.
If were using this logic than I'm definitly inthe wrong place in the pr's. No offence, but I consistently beat, Rag, shady, and you karn in tourney. Who are all currently ranked above me in the pr's, now granted fox is a tuff match-up for these ppl's mains, I know, but I still beat them, and also if we're going by placing in tourney then, you out of every one on the pr board should know why niether of us made it out of pools at herb 2. We had : Myself, sushimen (who I also two stocked in tournamet with fox, and he had to be homo and take me to frigate because he needed an even greater advantage than using meta-knight to win because I figured out his little game ) Boss, and you karn. And it was two man advance... then you look over at bills pool where its him, G-reg, and a bunch of randoms... seems alittle redundent to drop me four slots over that don't ya think? Now I can understand absence, hurting my standing, but to be honest the only ppl that ever beat me are Bill (which is why I think I'm as low as I am) Stingers (Who I've only fought only once in tourney, and our matches were rediculously close. But no disrespect man, I usally **** robs in tourney so you were totaly legit in beating me ) PP (duh, but on that note I really want to fight you again) and Dub (I'm not just saying this because he beat me this tourney either, he always gives me alot of trouble, even in teams... ****ed bannanas...) So all I'm saying is I think I should have gone down, but to 8th? But like I said, all I can do is step it up I guess. I didn't write this to offend anyone, yall are all my friends as far as I'm concerned, I'm just confused is all, as to how the pr's actually work.The only thing that matters in PRs is results, and more specifically, who beats who in tourney. Duo probably would have been higher on the PRs if he didn't drop out of PLURs tourney because he was sick. It's not his fault he was sick, but at the same time, it lessens the amount of data we have. Other than that in the ranking period for the last PRs Duo is ranked about as good as he should have been.
Haha, bill you have such bad grammar and spelling when you post from your phone. @_@
I actually play about half the character cast at tournament lvl, so yes, I trust my: Fox, Marth, meta-knight, falco, DK, Lucario, and Kirby, in tourney.duo do you have a secondary for pikachu? @.@
Downair to utilt ftw?fox has true combos.
espesially considering he's a hard counter for snake. (Sounds funny I know, but ask any snake I fought, one mistake and its 30-40%, and fox shuts down his camp game completely. He can compete with MK, and half the top tiers as well. I'd say hes low high tier IMPO.oh ****
the fact DDD can't CG fox is so stupid D: i want DDD and MK to be my 2 best characters but Fox is really hard for everyone I use. Fox even does decently against MK iirc, azen almost beat m2k with his fox at apex or something @.@
if fox didn't get ***** so badly by pika and zss he could be high tier imo >.>
lol Fox doesn't get ***** by ZSS.oh ****
the fact DDD can't CG fox is so stupid D: i want DDD and MK to be my 2 best characters but Fox is really hard for everyone I use. Fox even does decently against MK iirc, azen almost beat m2k with his fox at apex or something @.@
if fox didn't get ***** so badly by pika and zss he could be high tier imo >.>
Wait what?Also, it figures that Foxy would get all of the top six in B+ except me and PLUR.
An infinte that mainly limits Fox's spacing options, and means he can't roll.doesnt zss have some infinite on fox? i dont follow the 2 characters much but i seem to recall an infinite >.>
Like, you listed five of the top six teams, but missed us.Wait what?
"get"?
I can see it happening at most twice in a match on average on a decently good opponent, and that's averaging over every character in the game. Fox is one of the harder characters to land it on, because he spends most of his time either shooting lasers at you from the other side of the stage, shinestalling above you, or utilting your shield. He doesn't live at the spacing that dsmash thrives at.dsmash doesnt seem like that hard of a move to land o.O
yeh on pretty much every character, some exceptions but its legitshine usmash?
no way
Oh lawls, no problem. I actually didn't even know that you guys teamed (or any other teams really).Like, you listed five of the top six teams, but missed us.
I'm not complaining so much as giving you a hard time for the lulz. No offense intended.
That's cuz you don't play gay enough in Brawl.I had about a million times more fun with B+ than vBrawl....
Take it from this man. He knows how to play gay.That's cuz you don't play gay enough in Brawl.