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Presenting Metroid Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3 is much better than any Smash DLCs tbh. I feel like it's too early to tease them.
Sakurai said himself that he doesn't force characters to work. Duck Hunt's encompassing concept is the NES Zapper. Pac-Man's is classic Namco Arcade games. That's pretty straight forward.
Yeah, I'm with you, Fatman. After looking at those presentation slides and the section about creating characters, it's pretty clear there has to be some kind of immediately distinguishing "identity" to a character for them to be chosen. It's especially notable when you look at those "selling point" kind of descriptions he does for them: Ike is "burly sword fighter", Meta Knight is "pointed sword dancer" and so on.
B-But he looks like Goku!
It seems like a fun creative challenge.
See, this is what I mean. We already have five for Geno, and that took less than three minutes, lol.
Since Sakurai said he won't add any non-game characters, Erdrick is the closest character to Goku we're going to have.
The sad fact is that we actually don't have a black haired swordsman outside of alts. I can see the pitch now, "Hey, you want to play as a sword fighter that does not have the hair of a rainbow? Here you go!"
Dark Pit...sorta? Have we decided if the bow blade counts as swords?
I don't think they count.
Oh, cool. Then that actually means Lloyd has a viable selling point too, with "dual wielding swordsman."
I can certainly envision selling points for some of my most wanted.
I'll do you one better:
I agree, but it would be nice if we had more imput from those other perspectives. I think a bunch of just need to be sold on the idea, move set wise at least. That is why we are doing this three word thing, right?
I literally laughed out loud at this.
All good choices! I can even double up on some of them:
Pretty much this. I'm not trying to hate on Erdrick at all, I just want someone to tell me what his selling point could be as a Smash fighter, in a simplified, immediately recognizable way. I'm open to the idea of any new character, so long as they're unique--as evidenced by my interest in Piranha Plant. I just can't envision Erdrick's hook.
Don't forget about Sakurai's veto power. If he didn't think Erdrick could work as a fighter, he can just say no, regardless of how much they push him. They trust his input, clearly.
Man, it's easy getting Erdrick in Smash. Just dye his hair blue and he's a lock.
Square was stingy with Cloud despise beeing their character.
If Square's being stingy, DQ is out of the question, it just takes too much money, time and effort. Also, DQ hasn't done all that well in the West. Combine that with the fact that Japan isn't really asking for a DQ character, it becomes clear why DQ might be unlikely.
On paper that works but that also means more character models and more liscensing for every individual character, even if it's just minor enemies like Slime. Like you said, the monsters would have to have the full programming of an assist trophy. If all the ALTs were different characters, that would be a minimum of 32 checks and balances outside Nintendo to go forward because each would have to be liscensed out. We've come back to same spot again that it would be a ton of work, by far more than any other character in the history of Smash.
Pros for DQ:
Ah, I keep forgetting about Slime. Yeah, to a point, I can see how he could possibly be unique. I'd need somebody else to give me the selling point, though. Don't know enough about a potential moveset to say.
I think a selling point for Slime could be: "Liquid blue bandit"Ah, I keep forgetting about Slime. Yeah, to a point, I can see how he could possibly be unique. I'd need somebody else to give me the selling point, though. Don't know enough about a potential moveset to say.
The rest of your points are definitely the other hurdles for DQ to be represented. And there certainly are a lot of them...
It just doesn't seem likely to happen. That doesn't confirm Geno, or any Square rep for that matter, but it does make me wonder why we're still entertaining the idea. Because the insiders are saying they've heard more DQ? Because it seems the least appealing, and we want to eliminate the possibility, at least in our minds?
Sorry, just musing, lol. It could simply be we have nothing else to talk about...
Genuinely, if there is a FF rep, please let it be Tidus. Tidus is one of my favorite FF characters and he would bring good music (although very little) with him, plus his laugh (hopefully).
Slime is subject to the same policies any other dq character is. So he wouldn't be any easier to get.
