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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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LiveStudioAudience

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I mean in fairness, Smash has sold 20 million copies at this point; while I'm sure Nintendo would love to sell many more, the series is likely not their top priority at this point given the numbers it already has. I suspect its a case that they've chosen to focus their marketing and promotion on recent titles or ones yet to be released, with the assumption that a Sakurai Presents can still get attention when it needs to.
 

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≥SARS 2: Epileptic Scooby Doo punches the world in the gut
≥This reasonably destroys all prospects of major in-person e-sports gatherings for the foreseeable future
≥be the owners of the absolute ****tiest online imaginable in 2020
≥entire playerbase pans your online connection very specifically about Smash since no one can go play with their friends locally
≥tease that the headliner of your second season of DLC is a character from a first party "fighting game" that stubbed its toe and fell down on the way out of the gate, leave the community arguing over which slinky armed son of a ***** is gonna be the one for THREE MONTHS
≥release Noodle Arms the Enchilada as the headliner of your second season of DLC. She is something of a buggy mess and T poses to assert dominance.
≥wait a full month before releasing a minor update adding smol Battlefield and claiming you helped the online experience
≥online is now a slightly polished turd
≥a fan made mod for Melee adds rollback netcode to the game and absolutely destroys any viability that Ultimate has online
≥take zero legal action against Slippi/streamers proudly showing it off despite the fact that it poses a clear threat to the sales of Ultimate and the DLC
≥instead go after Legacy XP and a god damn porn game featuring Peach
≥do nothing else but run trash ass tournaments for a month

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Smash is now sitting at the bottom of the top 10 titles per week according to Famitsu and is doing worse than a ****ing soccer game. I have no idea why Nintendo hates Ultimate the way they do but at this point it's just willful negligence.
All due respect, the day Smash is getting spanked by Pro Basebal Famista 2020 and eFootball Winning Eleven 2021, you know you've ****ed up, Nintendo.

Also, I'm not a programmer so I really wouldn't know the difficulty involved, but damn, it must be embarrassing for Sakurai and crew to see a bunch of random fans manage to give Melee rollback netcode while Ultimate still sucks the giant hairy banana with supposedly no way forward.
 
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All due respect, the day Smash is getting spanked by Pro Basebal Famista 2020 and eFootball Winning Eleven 2021, you know you've ****ed up, Nintendo.
Ultimate is a two year old game that’s already sold over 20 million copies. The only game older on that list is Mario Kart 8 which is a GTAV/Minecraft style monster. The fact that Smash is on there at all is impressive.

I’m angry about the awful marketing for Fighters Pass 2 as well, but that Sales chart is a bad example of how Nintendo is screwing up.
 
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Ultimate is a two year old game that’s already sold over 20 million copies. The only game older on that list is Mario Kart 8 which is a GTAV/Minecraft style monster. The fact that Smash is on there at all is impressive.

I’m angry about the awful marketing for Fighters Pass 2 as well, but that Sales chart is a bad example of how Nintendo is screwing up.
I get that, but the point is that Smash could easily still be relevant to the general gaming community but their piss poor handling of FP2 has pretty much killed hype anywhere but in the most diehard regions of Smash fandom.
 

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Ultimate is a two year old game that’s already sold over 20 million copies. The only game older on that list is Mario Kart 8 which is a GTAV/Minecraft style monster. The fact that Smash is on there at all is impressive.

I’m angry about the awful marketing for Fighters Pass 2 as well, but that Sales chart is a bad example of how Nintendo is screwing up.
It's going to be alright, SpectreJordan! As a lot of other members (and yourself) pointed out, the game sold incredibly well! Smash news is always big news, and the game will become increasingly more relevant as newcomer trailers get revealed. That's the cyclic nature of DLC on an older game!

But let's try not to look down on their marketing strategy! 2020 has been a really rough year with the emergence of COVID19, and everyone was affected in different ways. It stands to reason that, if the global pandemic hadn't been a thing, we'd likely have a broader understanding of what the new Fighter's Pass has to offer by now. Last year, there were two reveals at E3! That was less troubling time. Now developers have had to find creative ways to work around worldly events and continue their development, sometimes isolated at home. It's been a difficult year, and I'm glad Nintendo has put less emphasis on marketing if it means letting all associates and subsidiaries work things out at their pace and in safety. Everyone is working really hard! I truly appreciate their continued efforts. I try to be more understanding when I think about things this way. ❤ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜 🖤

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I get that, but the point is that Smash could easily still be relevant to the general gaming community but their piss poor handling of FP2 has pretty much killed hype anywhere but in the most diehard regions of Smash fandom.
I definitely agree with that. I was just pointing out the sales numbers as a bad argument. It almost proves the opposite, that Ultimate Can still be a top 10 seller even without new content.
 

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I definitely agree with that. I was just pointing out the sales numbers as a bad argument. It almost proves the opposite, that Ultimate Can still be a top 10 seller even without new content.
Fair enough. On a somewhat unrelated note, I find it interesting how Mario Kart 8 still manages to sell so well despite not having any new content in years.
 

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I'm pretty sure I'm the one who first brought up RTC3 to the thread? It got extracted from Eshop server data a few weeks ago and I mentioned it could point to some kind of Partner Showcase or something soon. No idea what people are talking about with it relating to Geno.
 

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I'm pretty sure I'm the one who first brought up RTC3 to the thread? It got extracted from Eshop server data a few weeks ago and I mentioned it could point to some kind of Partner Showcase or something soon. No idea what people are talking about with it relating to Geno.
It's mostly due to a "leak" of the game being alongside Geno
 

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Smash is now sitting at the bottom of the top 10 titles per week according to Famitsu and is doing worse than a ****ing soccer game. I have no idea why Nintendo hates Ultimate the way they do but at this point it's just willful negligence.
I don't want to turn this into a huge argument, but this reminds me of something a certain user with a Mephiles icon would say.

Look, I want more Smash news too, but fans shouldn't attribute Nintendo's silence on a series as them "hating it." If that was the case, why is Metroid getting a triple-A 3D game and probably a new 2D game? Nintendo didn't talk about that series in a legitimate way for years, but now Metroid is coming back despite its low sales. Heck, according to a lot of people (such as Fatman), Nintendo will soon be bringing back much more neglected series than Super Smash Bros.

In short, I understand the frustration for Nintendo's silence on Smash news and the subpar online, but I don't think fans should take their own frustration and spin it to create their own narrative. The aforementioned "Mephiles guy" did that constantly, saying Sakurai hated the fans when he added characters the hard-core Smash fandom didn't ask for. Many called him out on it time and time again and eventually he left. I'm not telling you to leave, hell no, but saying Nintendo hates Smash and the proof is their silence/neglect for improving its online in a substantial way is... a strawman you set up. We'll get Smash news at some point eventually, hopefully soon (and hopefully it's Geno).
 
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Since Square and Enix merged, do they work separately like having their own executives and stuff like that like Activision and Blizzard?
 

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Since Square and Enix merged, do they work separately like having their own executives and stuff like that like Activision and Blizzard?
Enix was more of a publisher than anything else, pretty much all of their games were outsourced to other developers from the very start, even Dragon Quest.
 

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It’s hilarious that we’ve gone 2 whole pages of half of us asking for this RCT3/Geno leak receipt, and the other half are arguing about...tone?

Eyes on the prize, people. Let’s come together and find that post about RCT3.
 
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I swear there have been so many leaks that include Geno with other things and the other things keep being real

What if Geno just was real
He's granting the final wishes of others to make their games real before coming to Smash himself.

That is what is holding him up, he's still trying to grant some final wishes out the door and Codroid 19 flooded the door with wishes that he had to sort out first.

Good Guy Geno, always thinking of others before himself. What a lad.
 

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This is the only mention of the Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 leak I see discussed, and all that was notable about this leak was that it leaked via update data on Nintendo's own servers. No mention about any ties or connections to Geno in this regard, so I'm going to be honest, I'm not really sure why that connection was being thrown around.
 

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In other news, Joker and Hero amiibo are now available in Japan
 
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In other news, Joker and Hero amiibo are now available in Japan
Now October 2nd is all it's left, and the ad to go down 2 days after…
 

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I know some people may disagree with me, but maybe there is some good to come out of this Smash drought. If #7 really has been completely finished for a while now, that means they likely have been working on the rest of the DLC for some time. So when #7 is finally shown to us, whenever that may be, theoretically, the gaps between new fighters shouldn’t be as long as anticipated.

At least, that’s what I’m HOPING is the case...
 

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What are the chances that a Sakurai Presents is announced tomorrow for Monday? Likely? Not so likely?
Not great.

1. Going back to 2013, Smash announcements are overwhelmingly in the first two weeks of the month. The latest Smash announcements ever were on a 22nd (Min Min) and 29th (Shulk). Today is the 24th.

2. Except Byleth, every Smash character since 2013 has been revealed at a major event or presentation. Byleth only got a "Sakurai Presents" reveal because supposedly their reveal was meant to be in December (possibly the VGAs) but was delayed for an unknown reason. Min Min was technically announced during the March Mini.

3. As I pointed out the other day, all the Ultimate DLC characters reveals have fallen on Spirit Board event weeks. This week is a Spirit Board event week and, based on past precedent, next week should be a themed tournament. Should this hold up, the week of October 5th is the next most likely reveal week.
 

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Not great.

1. Going back to 2013, Smash announcements are overwhelmingly in the first two weeks of the month. The latest Smash announcements ever were on a 22nd (Min Min) and 29th (Shulk). Today is the 24th.

2. Except Byleth, every Smash character since 2013 has been revealed at a major event or presentation. Byleth only got a "Sakurai Presents" reveal because supposedly their reveal was meant to be in December (possibly the VGAs) but was delayed for an unknown reason. Min Min was technically announced during the March Mini.

3. As I pointed out the other day, all the Ultimate DLC characters reveals have fallen on Spirit Board event weeks. This week is a Spirit Board event week and, based on past precedent, next week should be a themed tournament. Should this hold up, the week of October 5th is the next most likely reveal week.
I'm optimistic for next week since the Smash reveals have almost always occurred before the 7/11 ad was taken down
 

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If we don't get a Smash announcement this week or October, I'm going to just stop believing in patterns as I think it will show Nintendo will reveal what they want when they want at anytime in any place.
 
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That Geno figure is just the 3D-printed one that was shared here a little while back. On the Etsy shop it's currently sold out of the fully painted 'deluxe' version. The only ones left are blank white and one with colored materials - that one lacks any color on his eyes and the collar of his cape. That one is $55 and the blank white one is $35. You can find it listed on Etsy as 'Wooden Warrior'.
 
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