Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Enigma735]

Banjo had a hype moveset from day 1. The fact nobody plays as him is a huge shame that I’ve never quite understood.

I know right? People say he is trash just because he doesn't have some flashy gimmick like the rest of the DLC, and I seriously hate when that is used as a factor for which character is better then which. I'm honestly glad Banjo doesn't rely so heavily on some abusable gimmick. All that matters to me is faithfulness, and boy did Sakurai NAIL that. Banjo is EXTREMELY faithful to the source material. Almost everyone of his moves is a move from his original games and it was exactly how I envisioned Banjo in my head before his reveal. Banjo is also by far the DLC character with the absolute BEST expressions. Every animation the duo has to their ledge grab, tip toe, and idle animations, all of these animations are very expressible and they all perfectly match the duo's characteristics extremely well. And don't even get me started on their stage and music.

I genuinely don't get why people are so disappointed with them. I was honestly ecstatic at just how well they were implemented in Smash, and personally, I thought Microsoft would have been greedy with their inclusion and wouldn't have allowed that much content, kinda like Final Fantasy, but I was pleasantly surprised at just how much we got. To me, it honestly feels like people just complain about Banjo to make themselves feel interesting by being in the minority of people that were genuinely happy to see the bear and bird in Smash.

 

[TTF]

There are three things to be excited for:

Geno in Smash

Geno Amiibo

BestGuyEver video.

And don't forget a TerminalMontage video!

 

[RetrogamerMax]

It will be such a sign of relief when Geno get's in.

 

[JarBear]

And don't forget a TerminalMontage video!

Oh my ... how did I forget. I have failed.

 

[Noler_Mass]

I 100%ed the original Banjo game before his release and I totally agree, his transition from that to smash is smooth like butter. The eggs, the golden wing, kazooie’s 3 face stabs as his BAir, the roll dash attack. It’s perfect. He’s an easy-going, laid-back character, so he gets an easy-going, laid-back moveset.

And also, I hear the “Banjo’s not flashy enough” argument too, and all I have to say to that is.... Golden Wing.

And and I’ve always enjoyed using “unflashy” characters because they tend to have the most seamless movesets. Some of those “flashy” moves get stale real quick.

 

[MattX20]

The fact we crushed nearly 80 additional pages this past week is insane

 

[TTF]

Oh my ... how did I forget. I have failed.

For real, if/when Geno is revealed, I can imagine his video about it will be the most loud & erratic he's done, even more than the 'BIRD UP!' stuff!

 

[MisterMike]

There are three things to be excited for:

Geno in Smash

Geno Amiibo

BestGuyEver video.

Hey, don't forget my video! I'm still planning on making a video in the style of BestGuyEver to celebrate Geno getting in.

And don't forget a TerminalMontage video!

That too.

The fact we crushed nearly 80 additional pages this past week is insane

Yeah, let's agree to never do that again... at least, until Geno gets revealed, that is.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I 100%ed the original Banjo game before his release and I totally agree, his transition from that to smash is smooth like butter. The eggs, the golden wing, the kazooie’s 3 face stabs as his BAir. It’s perfect. He’s an easy going, laid-back character, so he gets an easy-going laid-back moveset.

And also, I hear the “Banjo’s not flashy enough” argument too, and all I have to say to that is.... Golden Wing.

Still though, I wish they had all their different egg types from Tooie instead of just the normal egg and the grenade egg. Imagine something like Shulk's Monado Arts in where they could choose between all the different egg types.

 

[Blankiturayman]

I know right? People say he is trash just because he doesn't have some flashy gimmick like the rest of the DLC, and I seriously hate when that is used as a factor for which character is better then which. I'm honestly glad Banjo doesn't rely so heavily on some abusable gimmick. All that matters to me is faithfulness, and boy did Sakurai NAIL that. Banjo is EXTREMELY faithful to the source material. Almost everyone of his moves is a move from his original games and it was exactly how I envisioned Banjo in my head before his reveal. Banjo is also by far the DLC character with the absolute BEST expressions. Every animation the duo has to their ledge grab, tip toe, and idle animations, all of these animations are very expressible and they all perfectly match the duo's characteristics extremely well. And don't even get me started on their stage and music.

I genuinely don't get why people are so disappointed with them. I was honestly ecstatic at just how well they were implemented in Smash, and personally, I thought Microsoft would have been greedy with their inclusion and wouldn't have allowed that much content, kinda like Final Fantasy, but I was pleasantly surprised at just how much we got. To me, it honestly feels like people just complain about Banjo to make themselves feel interesting by being in the minority of people that were genuinely happy to see the bear and bird in Smash.

I 100%ed the original Banjo game before his release and I totally agree, his transition from that to smash is smooth like butter. The eggs, the golden wing, the kazooie’s 3 face stabs as his BAir. It’s perfect. He’s an easy going, laid-back character, so he gets an easy-going laid-back moveset.

And also, I hear the “Banjo’s not flashy enough” argument too, and all I have to say to that is.... Golden Wing.

I know we're here on the Geno thread but since you guys are talking about it, I really like how Banjo and Kazooie don't seem to have "gimmicks" to them. They're made more like a character added in a prior entry, which fits perfectly because of the time they come from. When Sakurai was going over their moveset in the presentation I was glad to see that all of the moves were taken nearly directly from the games or altered, it was a really smooth transition.

To bring this back a bit to Geno, I could see him having some moves behave similarly, the specials and weapons he has in SMRPG would work great just moved over.

 

[MattX20]

With 2 additional scheduled maintenance periods on next Monday and the second of August, we should probably keep an eye out for any potential midnight announcements for mini directs just in case

 

[Noler_Mass]

I know we're here on the Geno thread but since you guys are talking about it, I really like how Banjo and Kazooie don't seem to have "gimmicks" to them. They're made more like a character added in a prior entry, which fits perfectly because of the time they come from. When Sakurai was going over their moveset in the presentation I was glad to see that all of the moves were taken nearly directly from the games or altered, it was a really smooth transition.

I’ve honestly wondered whether Sakurai designed a moveset for Banjo way back when, and simply used that for reference. Because I agree, he feels like he was designed for brawl.

Still though, I wish they had all their different egg types from Tooie instead of just the normal egg and the grenade egg. Imagine somthing like Shulk's Monado Arts in where they could choose between all the different egg types.

I disagree, the original Banjo is way superior to Tooie, and I’m glad his moveset focused mostly on that iteration. It’s the purest form of the character.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I disagree, the original Banjo is way superior to Tooie, and I’m glad his moveset focused mostly on that iteration. It’s the purest form of the character.

Tooie had some cool ideas for the bear and bird duo so I disagree. Plus I think Tooie is a better game than Kazooie despite what other people think about it like the worlds being too big or it be too dark compared to the original. Tooie was amazing sequel even if you liked Kazooie more.

 

[Griselda]

When I at first glance don't appear to have a Geno hat like everyone else despite having been around for some time, now:

 

[Gribbo]

With 2 additional scheduled maintenance periods on next Monday and the second of August, we should probably keep an eye out for any potential midnight announcements for mini directs just in case

Is this the return of Japan Tiem? Just with much more disappointment?

 

[GodzillaGuy64]

I’ve honestly wondered whether Sakurai designed a moveset for Banjo way back when, and simply used that for reference. Because I agree, he feels like he was designed for brawl.


I disagree, the original Banjo is way superior to Tooie, and I’m glad his moveset focused mostly on that iteration. It’s the purest form of the character.

While his moveset is incredible, there are some things they should’ve taken from Tooie. The dash attack is a big one. Tooie’s roll has much more mobility and you can immediately go into any move when you execute it. Kazooie’s is a little slower. Pack Whack could’ve also been in the moveset as an aerial. While they’re “Egg Arsenal” would be a little hard to implement in the move’s current state, fire and ice eggs could be implemented if they tweaked it a bit.

 

[Fatmanonice]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

 

[MattX20]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

Not to mention Dragon Quest 11S being ported to nearly every system imaginable...

 

[T2by4]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

I was just about to post this! Idk how I missed that. VERY interesting.

 

[skydogc]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

See, I'm really an easy going, relaxed dude.
THEN YOU DO SHOW THIS AND I'M OVER HERE LIKE TEAMFOURSTAR'S JEICE WHEN HE'S ABOUT TO GO TO SPACEY'S!!!

And I can't say I don't enjoy it.

 

[YsDisciple]

Geno and Waluigi get revealed for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. X Gon Give It To Ya plays in the background.

 

[MattOnwheels]

"A-HYUK! EVENIN', THREAD!"

Quick! Someone fill me in on how Mii Costume guy relates to GENO?! What did Xbox tell us?! What's all this about Perfect Dark?! WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE?!

Tell me, damn it! I didn't sleep all afternoon just to wake up and figure things out by myself! What do you think I am, a ninny?!

 

[TTF]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

But no Chocobo Racing or Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring. *le sigh*

 

[YsDisciple]

This flew under the radar but Square Enix is having a bigass sale that's lasting until August 2nd:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1286420867791163392

Square really does seem to be pumping up some impending Nintendo announcement, isn't it?

Just checked their Sales & Deals page and it ain't just Square Enix; Capcom, WB, Spike Chunsoft, NIS America, and Activision also have sales ongoing up to July 30th/August 3rd. Hmm...

HMMMMM!

 

[Andwooooo]

"A-HYUK! EVENIN', THREAD!"

Quick! Someone fill me in on how Mii Costume guy relates to GENO?! What did Xbox tell us?! What's all this about Perfect Dark?! WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE?!

Tell me, damn it! I didn't sleep all afternoon just to wake up and figure things out by myself! What do you think I am, a ninny?!

MCG, as I'm referring to them, said that two of the costumes would be Mallow and Smithy, IIRC--which would be silly costumes to have if Geno's also just a Mii fighter. So far, they've accurately pre-confirmed *a lot* of costumes and spirits thus far.

 

[StrangeKitten]

I know right? People say he is trash just because he doesn't have some flashy gimmick like the rest of the DLC, and I seriously hate when that is used as a factor for which character is better then which.

Banjo's fun as hell, love playing him! And I bet Geno will be equally as fun if he makes it in

 

[T2by4]

This dude has to be a Geno fan. He made an entire game that looks very earthbound/undertale inspired with a little mix of rhythm heaven and the main character is a wooden doll. It's a demo, but it looks like it has a lot of potential. Idk if he is a genobro or not, but the face is pretty darn close to Geno's
Sauce:
https://mobile.twitter.com/EverhoodGame/status/1240724987104964609

 

[Fatmanonice]

I've noticed that with game sales in the past that they typically tie into the week of an actual presentation. For example, look what happened in June:

https://www.siliconera.com/not-e3-summer-nintendo-eshop-sale-begins-today/

The sale started on what would have been Nintendo's E3 if Covid-19 wasn't the historical and metaphorical dog**** on your shoe that makes you slip and fall down a flight of stairs and out an open window onto a busy sidewalk and across the street from a daycare center with very, very large windows so literally every child inside will need therapy in 15 to 20 years but enough about what happened this morning...

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

I'm feeling very good about next week or the following week for getting actual Nintendo content. If those weeks come and go without anything I'll just shut the **** up until late August

 

[MattOnwheels]

MCG, as I'm referring to them, said that two of the costumes would be Mallow and Smithy, IIRC--which would be silly costumes to have if Geno's also just a Mii fighter. So far, they've accurately pre-confirmed *a lot* of costumes and spirits thus far.

I see. However...that still doesn't confirm Geno as playable. They could have Mallow, Smithy and no Geno at all...

HNN-BLAAAARGHH!

--Sorry. Thinking about that made me puke.


...Anyone got a mop?

 

[MattX20]

I've noticed that with game sales in the past that they typically tie into the week of an actual presentation. For example, look what happened in June:

https://www.siliconera.com/not-e3-summer-nintendo-eshop-sale-begins-today/

The sale started on what would have been Nintendo's E3 if Covid-19 wasn't the historical and metaphorical dog**** on your shoe that makes you slip and fall down a flight of stairs and out an open window onto a busy sidewalk and across the street from a daycare center with very, very large windows so literally every child inside will need therapy in 15 to 20 years but enough about what happened this morning...

The Square sale, the Square amiibo releases, and the Square spirit events all together...

 

[Fatmanonice]

I'm feeling very good about next week or the following week for getting actual Nintendo content. If those weeks come and go without anything I'll just shut the **** up until late August

Yeah... That's the annoying thing... Nintendo has a history of major presentations in late July and early August but we're pretty much bonezoned if the week of the 3rd goes by without anything and probably waiting until September for literally anything.

 

[Andwooooo]

I'm feeling a little confident about the 27th or 8th. Probably more confident about the 3rd though. There was a 4Chan "leak" a few days ago that dropped a lot of information, including Geno, the Marios, and Hollow Knight. But they also called Persona 5 "Ultimate Edition" instead of Royal, so that kinda nixed it for most people. Although, with Royal being such an obvious thing to not get right, having an Ultimate Edition for the Switch makes it less obvious that it was made up. Everything else they called was just too easy to guess.

 

[Let Geno Smash]

The Square sale, the Square amiibo releases, and the Square spirit events all together...

+Maintaence on the 3rd and many mario stuff on August 1st. Where is Kronk when we need he?

 

[StrangeKitten]

+Maintaence on the 3rd and many mario stuff on August 1st. Where is Kronk when we need he?

Here he be! Here's hoping this Mario stuff pans out

 

[GalacticPetey]

I know right? People say he is trash just because he doesn't have some flashy gimmick like the rest of the DLC, and I seriously hate when that is used as a factor for which character is better then which. I'm honestly glad Banjo doesn't rely so heavily on some abusable gimmick. All that matters to me is faithfulness, and boy did Sakurai NAIL that. Banjo is EXTREMELY faithful to the source material. Almost everyone of his moves is a move from his original games and it was exactly how I envisioned Banjo in my head before his reveal. Banjo is also by far the DLC character with the absolute BEST expressions. Every animation the duo has to their ledge grab, tip toe, and idle animations, all of these animations are very expressible and they all perfectly match the duo's characteristics extremely well. And don't even get me started on their stage and music.

I genuinely don't get why people are so disappointed with them. I was honestly ecstatic at just how well they were implemented in Smash, and personally, I thought Microsoft would have been greedy with their inclusion and wouldn't have allowed that much content, kinda like Final Fantasy, but I was pleasantly surprised at just how much we got. To me, it honestly feels like people just complain about Banjo to make themselves feel interesting by being in the minority of people that were genuinely happy to see the bear and bird in Smash.

People aren't upset with Banjo because he isn't flashy. It's just because he's not fun to fight against. His kit revolves around spamming projectiles and frankly brain-dead gameplay strats like down throw and side b. He falls into the same traps that make characters like Sonic and Pac-Man annoying to fight.

Not to say you can't like playing Banjo. I personally enjoy him myself but especially among competitive players he's just a groan worthy sight because the matchup just isn't fun. And I guess that's the biggest fear with Geno, that me might end up being a lame brain-dead projectile spammer like some other characters.

 

[MattOnwheels]

Yeah... That's the annoying thing... Nintendo has a history of major presentations in late July and early August but we're pretty much bonezoned if the week of the 3rd goes by without anything and probably waiting until September for literally anything.

Nintendo's attitude of late reminds me of this classic Simpsons segment:

"And here's our three newest directs! Pokemon, Crappyer Pokemon and NEW Partner Showcase!" **they fall from an "E3" pipeline**

"We got nothin.' Happy?"
"No D:"

"Hey! This Geno speculation is kinda fun! Haha! Hahahsha--GAMESTOP WHAT--" BOOM!-"OOOOOOOWWWW!!!! X.X"

 

[Griselda]

I kinda forgot but here's the finished Geno figure with his cape, along with a Tomy Sonic figure for scale. He's pretty tiny.

And as a bonus, I also dug out my old Geno plush I made many, many years ago.

 

[waterhasataste]

If we get a Best Guy Ever video, what would be the song?

 

[Enigma735]

This dude has to be a Geno fan. He made an entire game that looks very earthbound/undertale inspired with a little mix of rhythm heaven and the main character is a wooden doll. It's a demo, but it looks like it has a lot of potential. Idk if he is a genobro or not, but the face is pretty darn close to Geno's
Sauce:
https://mobile.twitter.com/EverhoodGame/status/1240724987104964609

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Not to mention the ???? listed as his name, which feels very similar to Geno's real name of ♪!?.

People aren't upset with Banjo because he isn't flashy. It's just because he's not fun to fight against. His kit revolves around spamming projectiles and frankly brain-dead gameplay strats like down throw and side b. He falls into the same traps that make characters like Sonic and Pac-Man annoying to fight.

Not to say you can't like playing Banjo. I personally enjoy him myself but especially among competitive players he's just a groan worthy sight because the matchup just isn't fun. And I guess that's the biggest fear with Geno, that me might end up being a lame brain-dead projectile spammer like some other characters.

To me, I never understood how going up against a certain character is supposed to effect your enjoyment of actually playing as that character. I can pinpoint tons of characters I LOATHE going against like Ness, Ganondorf and PAC-MAN, but I can't say I don't enjoy actually playing as them.