Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Just saw this recently. Obviously I don't really believe text leaks, but it does give us something to talk about. The trailer being an ARMS brawl with Min Min winning was commonly guessed, but the thing that gets me is that it was accurate about Heihachi and Vault Boy ending up as a mii costume. Now Heihachi as a costume really wasn't an uncommon thought, Vault Boy was definitely something a lot of people didn't expect but it was definitely in the realm of possibility. I do expect Dovahkiin in the future, it's a much bigger series then fallout and on top of that it's clearly important enough for Nintendo to reveal alongside the Switch. It just makes sense that if they got Vault Boy, they got Dovahkiin. Kunio makes sense after the spirit event, and Frogger as a costume isn't really all that unexpected.

If this is going to end up being a "1st party" dominated pass. A pokemon character does make a lot of sense; even if it got spirited, they could end up using pokemon DLC as spirits/characters. But even then pokemon is a decently common guess too.

Really the kicker here is if there ends up being a future Deus Ex event. I don't really see that series getting talked about at all in terms of Smash, so it would definitely be shocking for it to get a spirit event. This year is the 20th anniversary (it is in fact today) of the series after all, and it is owned by Square Enix now. They've already put out Trials of Mana spirits, so its not impossible but guessing a Vault Boy costume plus a Deus Ex spirit event is pretty unlikely.

That said, even if it turns out to be real; a lot of people have brought up the fact that its possible for Geno's costume to return with a playable Geno, so its not really deconfirming a potential Geno (though I would worry a bit if Deus Ex is a spirit event and Geno isn't confirmed). Really the biggest thing this would confirm if it ended up being true is that a pokemon character is coming.
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Thoughts? Like I said, I personally don't believe it at all unless a Deus Ex spirit event is confirmed.

It's just more spitballing, I swear we've had like 20 random fake text leaks that just throw ideas at the wall and happen to get one or two right.

 

[Deleted member]

So not even a day later after 'Spirits Deconfirm' has been officially unquestionably debunked, the relevancy argument is being pushed again?

Can detractors please take a vacation already, even if its just a few days? Can they (are they able to stop) obsessing over Geno for just a few days?

Quite unhealthy to obsess something you don’t even like.

 

[MattX20]

With Geno, I think it's safe to say that Mallow's spirit will return for his spirit board, but the main question becomes is this: are the other 4 party members getting their renders from the game made into spirits too or is just going to be the antagonists and supporting cast?

 

[EarlTamm]

With Geno, I think it's safe to say that Mallow's spirit will return for his spirit board, but the main question becomes is this: are the other 4 party members getting their renders from the game made into spirits too or is just going to be the antagonists and supporting cast?

I think it would be pretty fun to get the old renders of the Mario crew back. Maybe they can be slightly cheeky and refer to Peach as Toadstool, as that was the last game where that was her main moniker. That would obviously not be enough, so bosses and supporting characters will probably fill a good portion of the spirit board.

 

[Deleted member]

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Thoughts? Like I said, I personally don't believe it at all unless a Deus Ex spirit event is confirmed.

This is the second time I'll have to bring it up in this thread, and I discussed it in Discord, but this thread gets a lot of foot traffic and it's important to note things like this here.

SSGuy mentioned it earlier, but there are archive sites that you can search /v/ posts (which, let's be real, /v/ is where this stuff gets posted), and that post number will not turn up for you, but that's for a good reason: /v/ has not reached that post number at this moment, in June 2020, and would certainly have not reached that post number in April of 2020. /v/ is sitting aroud 5 trillion posts (the numbers are sequential) right now, and some screenshots I have from February show it at 4 trillion posts.

The idea that someone went through the trouble to edit a 4chan post isn't new, but the idea that someone did so without any regard to how the post numbers work is, frankly, pathetic. Please don't give this more attention than it deserves, because ignorance as to how posts on a 4chan board works is at an all time high, apparently.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

With Geno, I think it's safe to say that Mallow's spirit will return for his spirit board, but the main question becomes is this: are the other 4 party members getting their renders from the game made into spirits too or is just going to be the antagonists and supporting cast?

I think Mario, Bowser, and Peach will get their Mario RPG renders as Spirits in Geno's Spirit board. I see Smithy getting a Spirit as well as the Axem Rangers, Yaridovich, Belome, Croco, Bowyer, Mack, Booster, Johnny, Megasmilax, Exor, and Valentina.

 

[Deleted member]

On an unrelated note, I do like how this thread picked up steam almost immediately. Min Min pulled through!

I also like that I've seen more and more of this similar idea of the chandeliers in Bowser's Castle being used as a stage. It's such an iconic scene, and really sets the tone for the rest of the game. My personal suggestion for it was ages ago, but I still have it here:

This and/or Vista Hill overlooking the castle would be perfect.

With Geno, I think it's safe to say that Mallow's spirit will return for his spirit board, but the main question becomes is this: are the other 4 party members getting their renders from the game made into spirits too or is just going to be the antagonists and supporting cast?

I'd like that, but there's so much more you can take from SMRPG. Booster, Bowyer, Exor, the Axem Rangers, Croco.. They're all unique, and would be perfect for the spirit board.

 

[MattX20]

On an unrelated note, I do like how this thread picked up steam almost immediately. Min Min pulled through!

I also like that I've seen more and more of this similar idea of the chandeliers in Bowser's Castle being used as a stage. It's such an iconic scene, and really sets the tone for the rest of the game. My personal suggestion for it was ages ago, but I still have it here:

This and/or Vista Hill overlooking the castle would be perfect.



I'd like that, but there's so much more you can take from SMRPG. Booster, Bowyer, Exor, the Axem Rangers, Croco.. They're all unique, and would be perfect for the spirit board.

Apart from Forest Maze, yeah. Bowser's Castle and Vista Hill would represent the game well

 

[Springwood Slasher]

I think it would be pretty fun to get the old renders of the Mario crew back. Maybe they can be slightly cheeky and refer to Peach as Toadstool, as that was the last game where that was her main moniker. That would obviously not be enough, so bosses and supporting characters will probably fill a good portion of the spirit board.

So that would be amazing because I’m a fan of that clay, isometric art.

One teeny tiny little nitpick though - I believe in Super Mario 64 she signs the invitation letter “Princess Toadstool ... Peach”

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'd like that, but there's so much more you can take from SMRPG. Booster, Bowyer, Exor, the Axem Rangers, Croco.. They're all unique, and would be perfect for the spirit board.

How did I forget about Exor when listing my prediction.

 

[axel_]

I actually disagree with that. If real, the Cacodemon and Mallow mii costumes don't imply anything other than their own existence. I think we should only really start making assumptions/guesses on playable characters if there are other rumors or information out there for them to go along with the leak. Cacomallow is notable for Geno because it's one flake in a whole blizzard of facts and coincidences that seem to be in Geno's favor. Again, Geno certainly isn't guaranteed, but Cacomallow is just another leg for him to stand on. For Doomguy, he really doesn't have any rumors or history of Sakurai bias or recent coincidences going in his favor which makes it a little hard to spin a web connecting that the costume means he is probably coming as playable. In short, I feel like if these costumes exist they mean "hm?" for Doomguy and "HMMMMMM" for Geno. That's just my take though and I'd like Doomguy in

You don't need a dozen loopholes to guess at Doomguy.
He's been a popular request ever since E3 2018 (posts and memes about Doomguy in Smash go back even further than that), his series is praised as one of the most important games in history, practically creating a whole genre and legitimizing PC as a gaming platform on its own. Doom hasn't slowed down since, especially after 2016 and Eternal.

If you're gonna argue for evidence of Sakurai bias, he has called John Carmack the "father of FPS's", putting him on par with Japan's greatest game designers. His mention of Carmack segue'd directly into him explaining the rise of PCs and home consoles.

Relying so much on coincidences is exactly how we ended up with the Byleth cataclysm.

 

[GodzillaGuy64]

Hey all!

Not sure if you guys remember me, but I used to post here months ago. I went by "WaniiZ". I used to post here frequently, until things turned toxic very fast. Not by us, mind you - by others outside of this thread. Death threats, insults, off-site harassment - they were all there.

I wasn't in a good state back then, and I was letting things get to my head too easily. It got so bad to the point where I just didn't want to participate in Smash speculation because of it - I requested an account deletion from the admins because I knew things weren't going to get better.

I was thinking about returning for a while now, but then I saw Ovaltine return to the thread, and I'm happy she's back. It's nice to see a community still stand strong, despite everything.

So, just to catch up on things, here are my thoughts. This is going to be a lengthy post, so apologies in advance.

MIN MIN

SPIRITS DON'T DECONFIRM!

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. And Min Min is a great character to break that dumb fan-rule. Funny, I was playing her non-stop just a day before the ARMS reveal to prepare myself, and there she was! I knew it was her going into that presentation, and I'm super glad it was. She looks incredible.

I'm already guessing I'm going to suck so hard at playing her. I can't play complex characters to save my life - I learned that first-hand with Megaman.

It also deconfirms the dumb side-character argument.

CACOMALLOW

Cacomallow is about 75% real, with the other 25% being fake. I've still yet to see any mods that can match the head-shape right, without it looking off. Although I haven't checked in a while. I'm still concerned about the interview with ID, more than anything else.

It'll definitely be a hit to me because I'm a fan of both Doom and Geno (though I'll happily take the Chief if Doom doesn't make it in, they're equal in my books) but I'll get over it, if it's fake it's fake. If it's real, then it's real. Yadda yadda.

MII COSTUMES

VAULT BOY

Vault Boy costume! Definitely a highlight. I wanted some sort of Bethesda content, and of all things Fallout was just that. I love Fallout, so that was a pleasant surprise to see. I think it hits Cacomallow's chances slightly, but not that much for reasons I listed above.

MISCELLANEOUS

Heihachi returned on his own. That means we have Lloyd and Gil left. I think the "you can't have one Mii costume on it's own" is a fan-rule, because they do save costumes for later. Just because we got Ubisoft costumes first doesn't mean Rayman's deconfirmed, for example. ARMS already deconfirmed this in my eyes because we got everything BUT the playable character first for that series. There'll likely be more Namco content coming.

So people saying Cacomallow is deconfirmed because of Vault Boy showing up is a bit iffy to me. It's entirely possible that Bethesda will likely want more content in Smash, and Vault Boy was just the first step in that. Elder Scrolls or even DOOM is next for sure. I'd be fine with either/or.

Even if we don't get the Cacodemon Mii costume, we'll likely get something else Bethesda-related. A B.J. Blazokowicz Mii costume, for example. If they can get Fallout (which is already gritty enough) they can for sure get something Wolfenstein-related. Maybe even a Dragonborn/Doomguy costume if we don't get them as playable characters.

GENO

Now for the main event. I'm more confident than ever in Geno's chances, and I won't let anyone convince me otherwise. Now that all other dumb excuses are thrown out the window for Geno (spirits deconfirm, can only be the protagonist, etc etc.) let's move on to the big one standing in his way.

His existence. I've heard time and time again that Geno just appeared in one game twenty years ago as a "side character" (despite being the driving point of SMRPG's plot) and he shouldn't be in because of that. In my eyes, that's a bigger reason to support him. Smash is all about bringing back characters from the "dead" - Banjo, K Rool, R.O.B, Ice Climbers, Duck Hunt..

Imagine if Shadow stayed dead in SA2. Let's imagine he wasn't brought back from Heroes onwards (because of fan demand, no less!) Where would the Sonic fanbase be? Wouldn't people then be saying Shadow appeared in only one game twenty years ago? Wouldn't you want a cool character like Shadow to come back as well? He made an impact on you when playing SA2. You loved playing as him, seeing his story. But Sega wanted him to stay gone.

That's what Geno feels like to me. It's exactly WHY I want Geno to come back. He only appeared in one game because he had no other choice - he was a Square character, and Nintendo/Square were on bad terms. If they had bothered to bring him back like with Shadow, he would have staying power in the same vein Waluigi does.

Let's use another example. Didn't Mighty and Ray only exist in one game from twenty years ago? Last time we saw Mighty was in Knuckles Chaotix. Last time we saw Ray however, was in SegaSonic - three years older than Super Mario RPG!

Despite this, they're now a staying part of the fanbase. If they had bothered to continue with the SMRPG characters, I think they'll be held in the same regard as Mighty and Ray are now.

That's my take on things. I want Geno to come back BECAUSE of who he is. You take a cool-looking, unique character that has never been seen before in a Mario game, and you practically leave that character to rot.

If Geno isn't allowed in, why are people requesting characters like Ninten, Kumatora, Takamaru, Sukapon - they've only had one game to pick from. Kumatora isn't even the main character, Lucas is. What about the Masked Man? He's a villain from a 14-year old game. Why are those characters okay, when Geno isn't? I've even seen it with Dimentio. Why is Dimentio, a villain from a 12-year old game that is very likely a one-off, okay when Geno isn't? Fawful is the same way. He was lucky to see a return in Bowser's Inside Story, and even then that game is only a year older than Super Paper Mario. He hasn't returned since.

Personally, I'd happily accept those characters. But it's not fair to strike out a character because of one rule, but advocate for another character that follows the same reasoning for why that character can't get in. It always felt like gate-keeping to me. Something the Smash community is practically famous for.

One game isn't enough for him. At the very least, SMRPG is deserving of a sequel - or Smash representation. Since AlphaDream is up in the air, let's just go with Smash representation for now. That's the best we can hope for.

It worked with Pit, didn't it?

EXTRA THOUGHTS

Colour Theory is a bit silly, but holy heck is the seven-stars thing so coincidential. Matches it to a tee. Not to mention the weird "7" thing going on with CP7 that PapaGenos pointed out, although I don't think it means much, Geno-related. It could easily mean something else, like Chief. Bungie was obsessed with the number 7 in particular, to the point where July 7th was referred to as Bungie Day. I remember hopping on to Valhalla and seeing the easter egg on the wall.

That said, the numbers are sketchy, to say the least. It's definitely something to take note of, and it's definitely a Sakurai thing to do - considering he was messing around with binary in Byleth's presentation, and having fun with the slinky in the ARMS presentation. There's always something that makes us go "Oh, that Sakurai!" like a comedy sitcom.

Love the pfp, man. Karl Grookington.

Just saw this recently. Obviously I don't really believe text leaks, but it does give us something to talk about. The trailer being an ARMS brawl with Min Min winning was commonly guessed, but the thing that gets me is that it was accurate about Heihachi and Vault Boy ending up as a mii costume. Now Heihachi as a costume really wasn't an uncommon thought, Vault Boy was definitely something a lot of people didn't expect but it was definitely in the realm of possibility. I do expect Dovahkiin in the future, it's a much bigger series then fallout and on top of that it's clearly important enough for Nintendo to reveal alongside the Switch. It just makes sense that if they got Vault Boy, they got Dovahkiin. Kunio makes sense after the spirit event, and Frogger as a costume isn't really all that unexpected.

If this is going to end up being a "1st party" dominated pass. A pokemon character does make a lot of sense; even if it got spirited, they could end up using pokemon DLC as spirits/characters. But even then pokemon is a decently common guess too.

Really the kicker here is if there ends up being a future Deus Ex event. I don't really see that series getting talked about at all in terms of Smash, so it would definitely be shocking for it to get a spirit event. This year is the 20th anniversary (it is in fact today) of the series after all, and it is owned by Square Enix now. They've already put out Trials of Mana spirits, so its not impossible but guessing a Vault Boy costume plus a Deus Ex spirit event is pretty unlikely.

That said, even if it turns out to be real; a lot of people have brought up the fact that its possible for Geno's costume to return with a playable Geno, so its not really deconfirming a potential Geno (though I would worry a bit if Deus Ex is a spirit event and Geno isn't confirmed). Really the biggest thing this would confirm if it ended up being true is that a pokemon character is coming.
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Thoughts? Like I said, I personally don't believe it at all unless a Deus Ex spirit event is confirmed.

This might’ve come up already but one thing to note is that there are no Deus Ex games on Switch right now. While it could be possible, I really don’t see it happening.

 

[MattX20]

If it does come down to an FPS character in the second fighter pass, DoomGuy or Masterchief are the only options

 

[EarlTamm]

You know, I wonder if Min Min's dragon projectiles could serve as an indication of how Ge

Edit: Not sure how the above got here, but I will leave it.

So that would be amazing because I’m a fan of that clay, isometric art.

One teeny tiny little nitpick though - I believe in Super Mario 64 she signs the invitation letter “Princess Toadstool ... Peach”

True, but Toadstool has always still been apart of her name, its just that Peach took the focus SM64 and after.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

If it does come down to an FPS character in the second fighter pass, DoomGuy or Masterchief are the only options

I think it's not impossible for us to get both Master Chief and Doomslayer though. Just because they're both from the FPS genre that doesn't mean only one could get in. Hell, Season Pass 1 had 3 JRPG characters with Joker, Hero, and Byleth. Anything is possible.

 

[Tomasagaz17]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

 

[waterhasataste]

I could very easily be wrong, but I have a strong feeling that Geno will be coming along with these other three (as well as another Nintendo Fighter). How would you guys feel about this?

Geno, Crash, and Master Chief are like my top 3 requests so I'd be extremely happy

 

[MattX20]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And never return here to Smashboards.

We never said the theories were completely 100% accurate always, nor do we believe he is a lock beyond all doubt. However, the fact is that his chances of becoming playable for real now outweigh the likelyhood of the Mii Costume's return

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And never return here to Smashboards.

First off, people in this thread disagrees with Fatman many times including today. You yourself is arrogant saying that “Genope will never be playable.” I supposed you have better things to do being in the Sora thread then potentially getting banned for the second time.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Doesn't this disregard the possibility of AT promotions as well? They're all functional models as well, just with a very basic AI pattern slapped on them. And IIRC, you also said yourself that ATs were considered consolation prizes and Nintendo was legitimately shocked when they saw people mad over them.

You were literally arguing with me a week ago that Nintendo was totally fine with consolation prizes and that copy and paste ALTs for ARMS were totally fine too because things like differences in movement animations were "pedantic"...

I get what you're saying on animations. What I'm saying is that animations DON'T matter. Your argument is based around what's already in Smash with Samus and Dark Samus while mine is the fact the very idea of Dark Samus being an echo of Samus is asinine in canon, which your arguing somehow matters for ARMs when it didn't for Metroid.

Waluigi being an echo of Ryu makes more sense than Dark Samus being an echo of Samus. Making all 15 ARMs fighters fight identically in Smash is STILL less absurd than making Dark Samus and Samus fight identically. That animations would somehow be a roadblock for Sakurai to apply artistic license here when he's done it a million times before and more pronounced than anything that could come out of a multi-ARMs rep is imo nonsense.

This is all conjecture because at least some of the methodology behind echoes was that they could basically just be alts. That obviously isn't the case for some that play different enough to be in entirely different tiers when you get into competitive play or have different hurtboxes, but it doesn't change the fact that we're betting a lot on something as insignificant as animation tempo, which on its own requires you to ignore alts themselves with visual differences beyond the actual model. Like, you could point to things like bulky mii costumes giving the illusion of altering hurtboxes because of how they change the model. It's the same thing here, though I imagine Sakurai would find a way to keep the characters the same size even if that canoncially doesn't make sense (Ridley anybody?).

Maybe that is the rationale behind it if we don't get a Hero situation, but I just can't see it as anything more than reading too much into things.

But there is precedent with the animations on Byleth and others mentioned in here. But for some reason those "don't count" because they're not relevant to combat. Once again, we have to insert a caveat for this theory to work, and the prime evidence is something as trivial as select screen animation tempo. LIke, why is that a problem while the two Byleths canoncially being different heights isn't when that can absolutely affect things like hurtboxes? We've seen multiple times that Sakurai isn't THAT pedantic.

 

[Tomasagaz17]

First off, people in this thread disagrees with Fatman many times including today. You yourself is arrogant saying that “Genope will never be playable.” I supposed you have better things to do being in the Sora thread then potentially getting banned for the second time.

Assuming instantly that I'm a big Sora fanboy because I dislike Geno I guess? First off, Sora is not even on my top 5 MW, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Assuming instantly that I'm a big Sora fanboy because I dislike Geno I guess? First off, Sora is not even on my top 5 MW, lol.

I have a hard time believing time that. lol The only thing I am aware is that you’re a Sora fanboy. Not saying all Sora fanboys are bad, but you don’t really give off a positive example.
BTW: Not everyone thinks Geno is a lock by quite likely.

 

[MattX20]

Assuming instantly that I'm a big Sora fanboy because I dislike Geno? First off, Sora is not even on my top 5 MW.

Not once have I ever viewed the two as rivals as the two are owned by separate companies. It's a matter of how much easier it is to get the rights to a character, and so far Geno has won out in the Spirit department. It's what it comes down to for all 3rd party reps in the end

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

Topical to hear this **** from a GameFaqs troll.

 

[Polarthief]

Lol lemme just go ahead and dissect this trash.

Hey, Geno Cult

Imagine calling a group of people who like a character a "cult". Way to start off being hostile.

I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this?

So after being rude and attacking us, you're demanding something of us? That's not how you get what you want.

If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.

What arrogance? Also you make Fatman out to be some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist. Also putting Geno in front of who? It's actually been GameFAQs and detractors like you who talk louder than the supporters.

If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.

We all know you won't actually do that.

Deal?

How about go back to your part of the Internet where you can ree and make up lame excuses that have all been shattered as to why Geno isn't getting in. I bet you also did the same with Ridley, King K. Rool and Banjo-Kazooie.

That said, thanks for the +1 to the BestGuyEver Geno video.

 

[waterhasataste]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

I mean, when Ultimate DLC is done there's nothing left to speculate and talk about anyways so pretty pointless bet if you ask me

 

[Deleted member]

I could say something but I’m sure by tomorrow this will be one of those?

Remember that troll 700 who came in here to talk about How Geno is not getting in yeah good times?

Better to let this solve itself.

 

[Firox]

First off, people in this thread disagrees with Fatman many times including today. You yourself is arrogant saying that “Genope will never be playable.” I supposed you have better things to do being in the Sora thread then potentially getting banned for the second time.

Savage, my friend. I love it. Also, I agree that the irony is palpable having this guy claiming that we just mindlessly believe Fatman while he's been getting lynched for AT theories pretty much all morning.

 

[Deleted member]

Lol lemme just go ahead and dissect this trash.



Imagine calling a group of people who like a character a "cult". Way to start off being hostile.



So after being rude and attacking us, you're demanding something of us? That's not how you get what you want.



What arrogance? Also you make Fatman out to be some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist. Also putting Geno in front of who? It's actually been GameFAQs and detractors like you who talk louder than the supporters.



We all know you won't actually do that.



How about go back to your part of the Internet where you can ree and make up lame excuses that have all been shattered as to why Geno isn't getting in. I bet you also did the same with Ridley, King K. Rool and Banjo-Kazooie.

That said, thanks for the +1 to the BestGuyEver Geno video.

Yes, do not forget to send this to BestGuyEver if Geno gets in.

 

[MattX20]

Apart from the Pokemon presentation tomorrow morning, that's it for Nintendo related news this week as far as I know. If we do get an announcement for FP7, it might not happen next week, but possibly the week after or towards the end of the month are all that's viable/left at this point

 

[RedMachine123]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

Yeah, I thought that was strange that a detractor didn't show up after yesterday's stream...

LEAVE DETRACTOR!!!

 

[Tomasagaz17]

Lol lemme just go ahead and dissect this trash.



Imagine calling a group of people who like a character a "cult". Way to start off being hostile.



So after being rude and attacking us, you're demanding something of us? That's not how you get what you want.



What arrogance? Also you make Fatman out to be some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist. Also putting Geno in front of who? It's actually been GameFAQs and detractors like you who talk louder than the supporters.



We all know you won't actually do that.



How about go back to your part of the Internet where you can ree and make up lame excuses that have all been shattered as to why Geno isn't getting in. I bet you also did the same with Ridley, King K. Rool and Banjo-Kazooie.

That said, thanks for the +1 to the BestGuyEver Geno video.

I've made the same bet of closing my account in Gamefaqs months ago if Geno joins, I don't welch.

 

[7NATOR]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

Dude what are you doing? You don't have to Delete your Gamefaqs account my guy, do you at least have another one in the backburner

 

[Firox]

$100 says this guy welches.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Hey, Geno Cult, I dare you to something, many of you believes that Geno is absolutely getting in, and many even says that he is a lock for Ultimate, how about this? If Geno doesn't joins in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by the end of the DLC... You will stop acting arrogant, you won't believe in Fatman and every single of his theories, and you won't put Geno in front of everyone's heads until the next Smash game is announced.
If Geno joins in Ultimate, I'll make a public apology on this thread, and close my Gamefaqs account. And I'll never return here to Smashboards and bother this thread again.
Deal?

This isn't GameFAQs. If you're gonna act like this then get out and stay out.

 

[Wazygoose]

Geno is definitely quite niche and has very little legacy. Even though they are less "fitting" for Smash, all of Snake/Bayonetta/Joker/Banjo were better in these aspects. That would be quite bold to disagree with this.

edit : and I forgot the other thing that makes a "better candidate", whether or not you're a "good fit" : being the main character. These 4 are all the main character of their game/series.

Geno is niche for sure, and there are plenty of other characters that would be at least as good of a choice as he. But he's arguably the longest-requested playable character by a not-insignificant portion of the fan base who is not already playable in Ultimate. He's straight up a fan-pleaser, that's his main appeal.

Look man... I'm just talking in terms of probability and telling you to not expect a baby elephant for Christmas does not make me an asshole like you're implying. Plus, the spirit thing was always dumb...

-Literally a PNG.
-Technically was broken way back in Smash 4 when Mewtwo and Lucas went from trophies to playable in the same game.

One is a picture. One is a functional, controllable model. Mii costumes are the most consolation prize of all the consolation prizes, even more so than assist trophies for this reason. Is it possible for Mii costumes to be promoted in the same game? Yes. Likely? Probably not and, contrary to popular belief, me saying "don't hold your breath" isn't the same as "KYS." It's just a probability thing.

I think the DLC costumes have no chance of a promotion. But, the base-game costumes aren't completely unlikely. Not saying they will be promoted, I just think they're on the level of spirits in terms of barrier-to-entry. Also, still placing a side bet on that Paper Geno Hail Mary.

On an unrelated note, I do like how this thread picked up steam almost immediately. Min Min pulled through!

I also like that I've seen more and more of this similar idea of the chandeliers in Bowser's Castle being used as a stage. It's such an iconic scene, and really sets the tone for the rest of the game. My personal suggestion for it was ages ago, but I still have it here:

This and/or Vista Hill overlooking the castle would be perfect.



I'd like that, but there's so much more you can take from SMRPG. Booster, Bowyer, Exor, the Axem Rangers, Croco.. They're all unique, and would be perfect for the spirit board.

Forest Maze with the button-locking stage hazard would be #1 to me. There's already a few stages with a chandelier or chandelier-like area that can fall when you fight, and stages that travel, and it'd be nice to add more of a mix-up like Joker's and Terry's stages.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I could say something but I’m sure by tomorrow this will be one of those?

Remember that troll 700 who came in here to talk about How Geno is not getting in yeah good times?

Better to let this solve itself.

I think the Speculation Newcomer thread crowd came in and starting attacking Fatman and than the mods locked this thread down for a bit instead of stopping the topic at hand and warning the Speculation Newcomer clique.

 

[Polarthief]

I've made the same bet of closing my account in Gamefaqs months ago if Geno joins, I don't welch.

Whelp, hope you're ready to lose your account.

Also, regardless if he gets in or not, try not being a gigantic turd to a group of people in their own community next time. It's the equivalent of going into someone else's house and then insulting and attacking them. You're literally antagonizing us for the sake of being contrarian and hating on people who are supporting a character... just because. You're the one clearly in the wrong.

 

[CannonStreak]

Guys, just ignore whoever is causing trouble. We should have learned that by now. It is nothing new.

 

[JarBear]

As a friendly reminder, please do not feed the trolls.