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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Nicnac

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As HUGE Goemon fan, I would give a arm and a leg for a new Goemon game. I honestly hope Konami brings the Goemon franchise back. He got a Mii costume in Ultimate so they must have something planned for the franchise.
It's honestly impressive how much spite Konami holds for their own IPs.
-The Hideo Kojima fiasco of 2015.
-Silent Hills' cancellation (there has not been a SH game in 8 YEARS and not a good one in 16).
-Metal Gear Survive spitting on Metal Gear's pretty much flawless record.
-Contra Rogue Corps is a disgrace to Contra's legacy.
-There hasn't been a Goemon game in 15 years, and not a localised one in I think 22?
-Castlevania hasn't had a Metroidvania title or a Classicvania in well over a decade, and the last game was a mobile game.
-Gambling machines holding all of Konami's interest.

I'd say I'm impressed that Smash got Snake and the Belmonts, but I think it's just because Konami knows it's easy money where they don't have to do anything. Same with Dead by Daylight's Silent Hill chapter. I'd scream if we got a new SH but it's not gonna happen, Konami suck. It's a shame they have such good IPs and refuse to use them.
 

Dukefire

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Lets see once next week rolls over. Fan rule(s) of Sprits, Mii Costume, and AT deconfirm to fighter status will be destroyed once it is over. Though, that won't stop them to adjust to another version to limit potential future challengers coming up.
 

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And what would you do if it’s Master Mummy?
Bluster Kong: I'll cry for mommy!

It's honestly impressive how much spite Konami holds for their own IPs.
-The Hideo Kojima fiasco of 2015.
-Silent Hills' cancellation (there has not been a SH game in 8 YEARS and not a good one in 16).
-Metal Gear Survive spitting on Metal Gear's pretty much flawless record.
-Contra Rogue Corps is a disgrace to Contra's legacy.
-There hasn't been a Goemon game in 15 years, and not a localised one in I think 22?
-Castlevania hasn't had a Metroidvania title or a Classicvania in well over a decade, and the last game was a mobile game.
-Gambling machines holding all of Konami's interest.

I'd say I'm impressed that Smash got Snake and the Belmonts, but I think it's just because Konami knows it's easy money where they don't have to do anything. Same with Dead by Daylight's Silent Hill chapter. I'd scream if we got a new SH but it's not gonna happen, Konami suck. It's a shame they have such good IPs and refuse to use them.
Not to mention the Goemon characters have fully render PS4 like models on the pachinko machine games General Mcguinness from Ganbare Goemon 2 having one as well. Mcguinness was never in a 3D game but he has a freaking 3D model in a pachinko machine game. That ****** me off.
 
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I'm honestly getting a lot of deja vu.

>Next character is seemingly painfully obvious.

>Ends up having more than expected because the insider only saw part of the character trailer.

This happened in Smash 4 because insiders thought Lucina/Robin's trailer was about Chrom based on what they knew. This has also happened multiple times with Ultimate: People knew about Snake and the Ice Climbers but few people knew about "Everyone is Here", people didn't know Simon was bringing along Richter because they didn't know it was a two part trailer, most people didn't know about Plant because it didn't get a true trailer, and most people didn't know about Hero's ALTS because it was a two part trailer. Cheeky shenanigans are likely afoot...
 

Dukefire

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if they said only Springman without knowing the true picture, then we may be getting a treat after all the waiting. Still, keep hype in check for wrong assumptions.

Heck, if you didn't see it coming, just remember to please dump your salt somewhere quiet
 

Penguinbowler

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TBH Even if it's only springman i'd be somewhat appeased, because it would be actual proof assist trophies and spirits don't mean anything.
Right now were in a very "No Official comment has been made about deconfirmation" sort of place, which doesn't actually prove anything.

I am taking the insider info with a grain of salt though, i need some hard evidence before i trust a leak, like with the SNK Copyright discovery. The Grinch Leak has made me far more hesitant to even trust something with pictures.

Edit: Eh, i kinda expected no further reveals in the live stream, the lack of a proper fighter reveal gave me the impression sakurai's team was behind schedule from the Corona outbreak, the likely don't have a trailer ready unless it's a super early stage one like the Terry Trailer, which was likely released early because of the Leak with Hard Evidence.
 
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Theguy123

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Guys it’s happening. Check Nintendo of America’s tweet from just now. We’re getting the arms character on Monday. Too bad it’s just the arms character though
 

Heoj

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Honestly I am 100% fine with fp7 not showing up, just the fact that the wait is over is sending me through the roof!

Damn Im hyped, 35 minutes is really damn interesting, cant wait to find out whats in store!

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
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Dukefire

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To control people's hype before it gets worse after the almost 6 months drought.

Pretty much me after seeing nintendo posting the news.
 

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Remember guys, even if FP7 or Geno isn't announced on Monday the Spirit fan rule dies and maybe even the Assist Trophy fan rule as well. Plus we got Mii costumes incoming.
 

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Because if they didn’t say anything now and then announced only the arms character on Monday then there would be hell
I know this, it’s just that the drought has been so long + saying that there were no delays that I hoped for more. Anyways, it’s still something new to speculate (and hopefully play before the last day of the month). Also, Mii Costumes will tell a lot about our speculation...
 
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Inawordyes

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If the ARMs character is an obvious pick meant to be a precursor to more unexpected reveals, it fits the pattern:

SM4SH DLC - Lucas announced beforehand, suddenly BOOM, Roy returning, Ryu, DLC stages + music

Ultimate reveal: Inkling announced beforehand, at E3 suddenly BOOM, everybody is here, Echo Fighters, Daisy, Ridley

Ultimate FP2: unknown ARMS character announced beforehand, at E3 (originally) suddenly BOOM, ???

In each case, we got a popular request that was "obvious" and got it out of the way first. ARMS is debatable but it was probably one of the "safest" bets for a newcomer pre-release and it was an "obvious" choice.

I want to say that 6 is Spring Man, though, and the reason why is because they didn't reveal him off the bat. Some could say that they left the field open to generate interest in ARMS and get people talking about the characters and be a form of promotion. But if it was just Spring Man, why not say so from the start? For that matter, why not reveal the character from the start if it isn't Spring Man?

It would be because the surprise is "ATs can be promoted to playable". If you reveal Spring Man right away, it spoils the surprise. Even if Spring Man is the poster boy and the most obvious pick, as evidenced by the fact that he is currently the ARMS rep as an AT, the very fact that he's an AT is causing people to doubt his chances and look elsewhere. So even if he's the obvious choice, his reveal will still catch a lot of people off-guard who thought it couldn't be him.

But even then it 100% can't be the only surprise, which strengthens the case for a "bigger fish", a more hype reveal that was entirely unexpected, to which Geno certainly qualifies. Lucas led to Ryu, Inkling led to Ridley, ARMS leads to Geno.

We're in the endgame regardless, so it's just a wait-and-see thing. I am officially issuing a "Hypestorm Watch" for Smashboards.

EDIT: Aww man, I started writing this before the tweet. :(
 
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Enigma735

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GOOD NEWS: We're finally getting the announcement of the ARMS fighter!
Bad news: No FP7 reveal, although I am fine with that as long as this wait is finally over.

All I'm hoping is that this ARMS rep brings good news for us Geno supporters.
 

Icewolff92

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I won´t say I called it when I said that they would not reveal another character with the Arm presentation... but yeah.
But anyway, glad to see you guys and gals doing well.
 

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Took them long enough. I hope that we see CP7 before too long, but goddamn, this is at least something.

Also, it says "An ARMS fighter". Does this mean the "Hero Treatment" idea is dead?
 
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Firox

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It's honestly impressive how much spite Konami holds for their own IPs.
-The Hideo Kojima fiasco of 2015.
-Silent Hills' cancellation (there has not been a SH game in 8 YEARS and not a good one in 16).
-Metal Gear Survive spitting on Metal Gear's pretty much flawless record.
-Contra Rogue Corps is a disgrace to Contra's legacy.
-There hasn't been a Goemon game in 15 years, and not a localised one in I think 22?
-Castlevania hasn't had a Metroidvania title or a Classicvania in well over a decade, and the last game was a mobile game.
-Gambling machines holding all of Konami's interest.

I'd say I'm impressed that Smash got Snake and the Belmonts, but I think it's just because Konami knows it's easy money where they don't have to do anything. Same with Dead by Daylight's Silent Hill chapter. I'd scream if we got a new SH but it's not gonna happen, Konami suck. It's a shame they have such good IPs and refuse to use them.
Yeah, Konami is literally the stupidest company I know when it comes to their IPs and business practices. I mean, at least EA knows how to make money. They're sleazy as all hell but they're still clever about it. Konami is just stupid. They stifle their profits constantly and act like divas even when they have no reason to be. I'm honestly amazed they've managed to stay in business this long.
 

MattX20

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...ahem...FINALLY. A bit disappointing we won't find out who FP7 is, but I'm hoping that MinMin is our ARMS rep and deservedly gets the recognition
 

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35 minutes might seem long...

But then you remember that the Spring Man AT's basic punch travel half of final destination.
I'm pretty sure Sakurai is going to spend a lot of time on gameplay , especially since it was delayed for that very reason.

Cacodemon costume would be nice lol
 

Firox

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ITS TIME...

but no other fighter after. Lmao
Dammit, dammit, DAMMIT! Just the ARMS character and NOTHING else?! I KNEW they would stiff us AGAIN! Ugh, I love how the worst case scenario is EVERY scenario........I am so tired of this ****....

Welp, I look forward to hearing about Fighter #7....in December...
 

Andwooooo

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I’ll be excited when I know when. I know they said no new fighter info during the presentation, but they could pull a Pokémon and announce another presentation for the following week.
 

Dukefire

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We still might get the next announcement in August or September. Then again, the ongoing Pandemic can still throw a wrench into the original plans
 

Heoj

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The ARMS presentation is separate basically sealing that 7 and 8 are going to be revealed in the same presentation. So, uh, who's excited?
it was also said that only the arms character will be there, so no fp7 or 8
 

axel_

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AT LEAST WE'RE FINALLY GETTING SOMETHING.

I can live without a Fighter 7 announcement, especially since we're probably gonna get a deal breaker on Spirits regardless.
 

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I already was pretty sure we'd just get ARMS.

I also highly doubt it's more than one character, but it could happen as there's no actual context making it clear it's just 1 character or not.

My favorite option would be Dr. Coyle, but Spring Man would be cool too on its own~
 

zferolie

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Dammit, dammit, DAMMIT! Just the ARMS character and NOTHING else?! I KNEW they would stiff us AGAIN! Ugh, I love how the worst case scenario is EVERY scenario........I am so tired of this ****....

Welp, I look forward to hearing about Fighter #7....in December...
Wow... entilted much?
 

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In my capacity as King of Cope I'll say that the one solace of there only being the ARMS character revealed next week is that the nightmarish scenario where #7 is Urshifu or any other Pokemon seems incredibly unlikely now

Please, for the love of God, I need some relief. Something has gotta give. 6 months and we have the potential release date of 1 (one) of the fighters, without even knowing who they are. I just want Smash speculation to end

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Firox

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Watch Nintendo give us the mega-screw and reveal Master Mummy beside the Geno Mii costume thus solidifying the spirits/AT's deconfirm rule and giving us the finger all at the same time. I swear to you, if that actually happens, I'm boycotting the entire pass just to throw my own middle finger back at them.

Wow... entilted much?
Not really. The damn fighters pass was announced 6 months ago and we're only just now getting 1 reveal that isn't even tier 1 hype. We've had a precedent of at least 2 reveals per E3 for several years and yet this time Nintendo completely fell flat despite their competitors running strong. I'm fully allowed to be disappointed.
 
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