Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[RetrogamerMax]

So...is anyone still confident about the Arms character being next week? I’m probably one of the few that still is.

I'm pretty sure at this point by a week from today we will know who the Arms rep is as well as potentially #77. If June goes by and there is no Smash news, than I'm leaving speculation for half a year.

 

[pinshadow]

I'm waiting to see a single garbage game. Cause I've not seen anything but perfectly acceptable games.

Even many of the games I'm not a fan of I don't see as garbage. I couldn't stand Sonic Unleashed. I won't call it a bad game either(day stages were terribly made, and Sonic controlled badly too. He controlled well in the Werehog form, and perfectly in the hub. The Tails stages were even worse than the awful day stages. Note I mean the literal stages when I say Day. The layouts were absolute ****).

Way to miss the point by focusing on one word you don't agree with. The point is a good portion of the studio was working on an entirely different game that came out a month before Sword and Shield that wasn't received well at all.

 

[Dukefire]

Kinda of sound much what I'll bring up, but remember the Nintendo Direct Mini intro back in March? They did display a message to give those that were infected by the Virus and explain that release dates posted in the presentation are subject to not be final. So maybe June may not be the time Worst case Scenario

 

[SSGuy]

So Nintendo was actually willing to make a sequel to a 20-year-old game?



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Good, very good.

This is officially my favorite post in the history of Smashboards

 

[pinshadow]

Kinda of sound much what I'll bring up, but remember the Nintendo Direct Mini intro back in March? They did display a message to give those that were infected by the Virus and explain that release dates posted in the presentation are subject to not be final. So maybe June may not be the time Worst case Scenario
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They wouldn't have said June if they didn't believe it would be out then and Sakurai has made it clear that because it's DLC development hasn't been impacted much by being done at home.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Kinda of sound much what I'll bring up, but remember the Nintendo Direct Mini intro back in March? They did display a message to give those that were infected by the Virus and explain that release dates posted in the presentation are subject to not be final. So maybe June may not be the time Worst case Scenario
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This so much. It makes sense everything is taking a while.

...Hell, did Microsoft and Sony do the same thing?

Though they at least still have ARMS labeled as June, so it's right now "June with no exceptions" unless they actually tweet/announce a delay.

 

[MisterMike]

I thought he was a ghost type. I haven't played any of the Pokemon games since Gen 4 so my Pokemon knowledge is limited only to the first 4 generations.

Fair enough. He does look rather ghostly.

So...is anyone still confident about the Arms character being next week? I’m probably one of the few that still is.

I think chances are very good it'll be next week, Pokemon reveal be damned. They never reveal things on weekends, and revealing this character on the last two days of the month would be statistically unlikely and too much of a meme. Also, as others have stated, they've got an investors meeting next week on the 25th and if there's one thing investors like, it's knowing that stuff is happening.

 

[Firox]

Although Darkrai is not a ghost type, I would lose my **** with hype if he got in smash to promote gen 4 remakes. That or Deoxys. There are some classic Pokemon I would love to see.

Yeah, Darkrai and Deoxys were my favorites for Gen 4. I forget, is Darkrai already a Pokeball in Smash?

 

[Sigran101]

It's way too soon for let's go Johto. Gen 2 goes back to Kanto. Half the game would literally just be let's go Kanto which just came out like 2 years ago.

 

[MattX20]

This so much. It makes sense everything is taking a while.

...Hell, did Microsoft and Sony do the same thing?

Though they at least still have ARMS labeled as June, so it's right now "June with no exceptions" unless they actually tweet/announce a delay.

If it were to be delayed again, they probably would've done so a month back at least

 

[Dukefire]

We are antsy on our seats for the next smash news, but the ongoing pandemic is still making it not easy for a lot of people regarding conditions. I know that June can still happen, just applying the Worst Case Scenario if it should come in terms.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

If it were to be delayed again, they probably would've done so a month back at least

But last minute delayed announcements are so fun to hear wouldn't you agree?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If it were to be delayed again, they probably would've done so a month back at least

We'll have known about it by now, yeah.

I don't know why people are acting like it was actually delayed.

I won't deny it's impossible a tweet notes this this week either. But if they don't say it this week, it's coming.

Also, the thing about next week is that they are announcing a new thing for Pokemon. This won't affect Smash itself because it's not related strictly to DLC. They announced some core stuff today, but more importantly, they just don't want Pokemon and Smash DLC to clash that badly in the same week. It makes sense marketing wise.

 

[Sigran101]

Yeah, Darkrai and Deoxys were my favorites for Gen 4. I forget, is Darkrai already a Pokeball in Smash?

Technically Deoxys is Gen 3, but the way I worded it was confusing. I think they're both pokeball Pokemon actually, but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't end up mattering.

 

[pinshadow]

It's way too soon for let's go Johto. Gen 2 goes back to Kanto. Half the game would literally just be let's go Kanto which just came out like 2 years ago.

I mean pretty much every plush behind Ishihara was Johto related, the Let's Go Boxes were there, seems pretty obvious.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I kind of wish Deoxys was playable in Brawl because that was really his only chance ever to potentially get in the roster.

 

[Firox]

Technically Deoxys is Gen 3, but the way I worded it was confusing. I think they're both pokeball Pokemon actually, but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't end up mattering.

I suppose Pokeball Pokemon are in the same boat as AT's. If we get Springman, here's hoping that Scizor is back on the table!

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Was told that there was already plans to re-introduce Pokemon as early as August.

One of the big issues with Sword and Shield was the god awful Prerelease PR. If they had just said this when they planned it, the fanbase as a whole would've been much less upset.

 

[Polarthief]

Kinda of sound much what I'll bring up, but remember the Nintendo Direct Mini intro back in March? They did display a message to give those that were infected by the Virus and explain that release dates posted in the presentation are subject to not be final. So maybe June may not be the time Worst case Scenario
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"For potential updates". They would have let us know ahead of time if June wasn't gonna happen. Smash news is next week or riots.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

"For potential updates". They would have let us know ahead of time if June wasn't gonna happen. Smash news is next week or riots.

The June 30th meme might be real... that’s always a possibility.

 

[Super10ZX]

Just cause it’s being discussed now, I think Deoxys and Darkrai would have been awesome Smash additions! Maybe Zoroark too if they could’ve figured out a way to work the illusion ability (also Lycanroc, seems he was more underrated than I thought during base game). All these guys deserve more support for Smash!

 

[Vector Victor]

The June 30th meme might be real... that’s always a possibility.

Reminds me of Square releasing Kingdom Hearts BBS. They announced it as a summer release. It came out September 9th.

Yes, that was still summer, still a jerk move, though.

 

[Fenriraga]

Kinda of sound much what I'll bring up, but remember the Nintendo Direct Mini intro back in March? They did display a message to give those that were infected by the Virus and explain that release dates posted in the presentation are subject to not be final. So maybe June may not be the time Worst case Scenario
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Which is completely fine, but keep in mind they said "For Potential updates, please check the official Nintendo website and social media channels".

Meaning if something is delayed or something, they'd make a post about it. At this point, unless they're REALLY cramming and desperately trying to finish our ARMS rep at the absolute very last minute possible moment to make the June deadline, I really think they would have said something by now. And I'm pretty sure the character in question is pretty much done, knowing how perfectionist Sakurai can be.

It's all down to marketing at this point. But at the very least, I think June is still a lock. Hopefully sooner than later.

 

[Vector Victor]

Which is completely fine, but keep in mind they said "For Potential updates, please check the official Nintendo website and social media channels".

Meaning if something is delayed or something, they'd make a post about it. At this point, unless they're REALLY cramming and desperately trying to finish our ARMS rep at the absolute very last minute possible moment to make the June deadline, I really think they would have said something by now. And I'm pretty sure the character in question is pretty much done, knowing how perfectionist Sakurai can be.

It's all down to marketing at this point. But at the very least, I think June is still a lock. Hopefully sooner than later.

And honestly? Most people are more interested in who it is, rather than when they can be playable. People want the reveal more, not the release.

 

[MattX20]

Which is completely fine, but keep in mind they said "For Potential updates, please check the official Nintendo website and social media channels".

Meaning if something is delayed or something, they'd make a post about it. At this point, unless they're REALLY cramming and desperately trying to finish our ARMS rep at the absolute very last minute possible moment to make the June deadline, I really think they would have said something by now. And I'm pretty sure the character in question is pretty much done, knowing how perfectionist Sakurai can be.

It's all down to marketing at this point. But at the very least, I think June is still a lock. Hopefully sooner than later.

Precisely. If there was really another delay, we would've known at least a month ago

 

[AdamBel731]

I always found funny that there are people believing that Spirits deconfirm. They are a miserable little pile of .PNG archives.

I imagine Businessmen, heads of the industry, dressed formally at a meeting, discussing which characters could be in one of the biggest advertising games in the industry, but one saying "We can't add that character, it's a spirit "

Did someone call for me?

(replace us and ourselves with "me" and "myself")

I don't know if you've seen my multiple diatribes on this subject matter, but I literally have been preaching this for so long now. I am to this subject what Malo Mart is to Cacomallow. (At least I like to think at least a little.)

No but seriously, you're right on. I don't think Sakurai and his development team are gonna have trouble changing a PNG and a battle around if a company ask them to (whether that be Nintendo, Square Enix, or both). As I've mentioned before, the SSBU team made "Everyone Is Here" possible and gave us 100+ stages. I really don't think Sakurai and his team are gonna be like...

Sakurai: "Oh, sorry *insert company here* we can't add Geno because he's an image and already has a preexisting battle..."


Wanna know why that won't happen? Because of this:


Company: *Opens wallet

...

Sakurai: "So you want Geno in by when?"


If Sakurai or a company want a character in, they'll be in.

 

[Vector Victor]

And Geno's fighter spirit? His in game appearance sprite.

Or.....nothing at all, and Cloud gives precedent.

 

[T2by4]

Genobros...

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

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Genobros...

N-NO! IMPOSSIBLE!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE A SPIRIT BATTLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[*Verrix*]

So... very... ready... for.... Smash... news...

 

[Powerman293]

>Pokemon having another presentation next week
>Nintendo treating pokemon like a spoiled child that wants all the attention and doesn't have anything else that week


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

 

[CannonStreak]

I'd hat to sound like I am complaining, but I am just worried, actually. I am worried that something Smash related won't happen next week because of the Pokemon thing, and the Investors meeting is happening by next week, too. I hate COVID-19.

 

[xpnc]

N-NO! IMPOSSIBLE!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE A SPIRIT BATTLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Cuphead inserted
The "rules" deserted
Crisis averted
Geno asserted

 

[CannonStreak]

Still, there is hope. This presentation and next week's, though connected to Nintendo, was done by the Pokemon company, rather than Nintendo themselves, if I have things down right. Other companies have been doing presentations nowadays. There may still be a chance Nintendo could do their own presentation next week in some form.

 

[StarLight42]

N-NO! IMPOSSIBLE!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE A SPIRIT BATTLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You have no idea. I've seen people say they are gonna do this when they add back Geno's Mii Costume or... *gag* the fabled Deluxe™ Geno Mii that is going to get the "Sans Treatment"

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Remember when the AT couldn't be disabled cause the character is there?

While it's just due to a Mii costume, this is how the Spring Man's battle is treated. They used the representation of him via the Mii, and made sure Spring Man cannot spawn as an AT because the "character" is there.

This is why the argument that they can't disable the AT makes no sense. There's debates on whether a Springtron change is plausible(Honestly, I don't believe he has a chance outside of a Spring Man alt), but it's pretty clear these kind of things are not an issue.

Spirits/AT's, they're variables that they can change up if needed. Spring Man just needs the ARMS prefix and there's no issues. At most they can use Spring Man as the character during the Spirit Battle instead of the costume. They could also have it as the costume if you play as Spring Man too. And vice versa. There's so many ways to change it up it's hilarious.

 

[Axelocke]

Who's ready for them to announce another Smash tournament next week that will further delay any announcements whatsoever and be plagued by wifi Sonic?

(Hope ya'll are doing alright in these times! Looks like we're really in for a June 30th meme release, huh?)

 

[Franauts]

And what difference does it make if Springman coexists with his AT? Sakurai has said something like "Rock Howard is the adoptive son of an older Terry Bogard, so seeing them together, being a young version of Terry would be pointless, but Smash is all about that kind of stuff".

it's a simple fighting game (or party game idk), you can put 8 characters equal to each other to fight. Chrom is a character by itself but he's also part of another character's moveset, he's even part of his victory pose, you can summon Chrom to come and hit Chrom, you can beat Chrom and Chrom will be next to Robin mocking the Chrom clapping.

 

[cosmicB]

SEGA, Square Enix and Capcom.

Which of these have announced more than 2-3 games? Genuinely asking. Because I don't really consider that much more impressive than Nintendo shadowdropping Paper Mario. And if we're talking about Sony's show, I imagine their California branch helped put the 3rd party trailers together. Project Athia for example has a very big western footprint thanks to Luminous Productions (Gary Whitta is involved). A lot of these companies have autonomous western branches in general whereas NoA really isn't.

 

[Lord Woomy]

You have no idea. I've seen people say they are gonna do this when they add back Geno's Mii Costume or... *gag* the fabled Deluxe™ Geno Mii that is going to get the "Sans Treatment"

I feel like they're so close but they're so so far away