Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Antho]

Guys i question, do you that we are finally getting new spirits today?

We’re either getting a new spirit event announced tonight, or more hopefully, the ARMS presentation announced. Like I said before, Terry’s and Hero’s presentations were announced at 10 AM JST (Which would be 6 PM PST/9 PM EST when it’s daylight savings time and 5 PM PST/8 PM EST when it isn’t) as so are most spirit events and tournaments. There’s a somewhat decent chance we can get the presentation announcement tonight for Thursday, but I’m not counting on anything.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

So GolisoPower said in the Arms thread that they didn't announced the end of the Party Bash until 11 days after Arms 2nd anniversary last year. Imagine if we have to wait until the 27th to get the Arms rep. Dear lord I hope we can survive until than because I feel like we could be waiting that much long. What day of the week is the 27th of this month anyway?

 

[GolisoPower]

So GolisoPower said in the Arms thread that they didn't announced the end of the Party Bash until 11 days after Arms 2nd anniversary last year. Imagine if we have to wait until the 27th to get the Arms rep. Dear lord I hope we can survive until than because I feel like we could be waiting that much long. What day of the week is the 27th of this month anyway?

It's on a Saturday, I believe.

 

[ColtonS25]

Alright, so it seems like Smash will likely be next week. But I legitimately don’t think this was the original plan. Here’s why - so we know that Sony rescheduled the PS5 reveal and it took place last Thursday. This wasn’t the original plan by any means, but things happened and life goes on, right? We didn’t get any news from Nintendo when we normally would expect it. I think it’s pretty safe to say that any news we could’ve heard was likely moved to later in the month. If Nintendo would’ve went ahead with any news - Smash or otherwise on Tuesday, it’d be out of the news cycle within the next two days. Even Nintendo’s biggest games wouldn’t stack up to a new console reveal from Microsoft or Sony. With how spread out the news is currently, it would make so much more sense to just push it back to a less competitive week later in the month.

So why not this week? Well the Pokémon event tomorrow is a pretty good indicator of why. More than likely this event was always going to happen this week, and I think that Fatmanonice’s idea about how Smash and Pokémon could each get their own week applies. Not only that, but we know that the Pokémon Company does their own thing when it comes to announcements. Smash and Pokémon together would be a bad idea, especially since they’re both just DLC. With the only info to go on is that FP6 is slated for June, that’s the only real deadline to meet. Internal scheduling is probably pretty rigid for the most part, but there’s at least some space for ARMS. Plus, Nintendo isn’t beholden to announce every game for the rest of 2020 at once, so those announcements could be spread out in the coming weeks/months.

Anyways, TLDR is that Nintendo probably just moved back announcements to a free week since the original date would’ve been brushed aside due to the PS5 reveal getting delayed.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

So GolisoPower said in the Arms thread that they didn't announced the end of the Party Bash until 11 days after Arms 2nd anniversary last year. Imagine if we have to wait until the 27th to get the Arms rep. Dear lord I hope we can survive until than because I feel like we could be waiting that much long. What day of the week is the 27th of this month anyway?

I promise you they didn't decide sometime in spring 2019 to release the ARMS character on the anniversary of the end of the ARMS Party Bash some 12-15 months in the future. This is a reason I think people don't take into account enough when talking about "anniversary" reveals. There's a reason they aren't a thing for Smash and it's because it's nearly impossible to plan a year plus in advance so precisely that you know a character will be ready on an anniversary for that game.

In general, the idea that the ARMS character was coming on the ARMS anniversary never made any sense to begin with since Sakurai said the character was originally planned for April and got delayed in the first place

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I promise you they didn't decide sometime in spring 2019 to release the ARMS character on the anniversary of the end of the ARMS Party Bash some 12-15 months in the future. This is a reason I think people don't take into account enough when talking about "anniversary" reveals. There's a reason they aren't a thing for Smash and it's because it's nearly impossible to plan a year plus in advance so precisely that you know a character will be ready on an anniversary for that game.

In general, the idea that the ARMS character was coming on the ARMS anniversary never made any sense to begin with since Sakurai said the character was originally planned for April and got delayed in the first place

That makes sense when you put it that way.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

That makes sense when you put it that way.

I'll admit I do the same thing myself still, just because I really want dates to latch onto to hope for release dates, but after I've been let down by anniversary expectations a ton in the past I'm starting to mostly disregard them

 

[OffBi]

I did some sketches for Slightly Artistic that OneyPlays makes

Mario! eheheh
Mario! eheheh#slightlyartistic pic.twitter.com/uboXTiKiTW

— Offbi 🆖 (@Officiallythat2) June 16, 2020

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The only way it'd have been revealed on the Anniversary is if it was plausible when looking at the entire month. It wasn't. So it makes sense why it didn't happen.

But yeah, an entire year in advance? No way it would've been planned that way. Especially since we're getting the character in June specifically due to a delay for gameplay reasons. So it was never a realistic thing till a last second possibility. See "If it was plausible".

 

[YsDisciple]

For the sake of tempering expectations and what not, I suggest thinking that the announcement (and possibly release) of CP 6 might be coming on June 30th since it falls on a Tuesday. Been replaying some RPGs during the wait [SMRPG, Octopath Traveler, Final Fantasy IV (DS)].

 

[Deleted member]

I’m still confident that there will truly be luxurious additions to the Smash fanbase to make up from Byleth and ARMS. If there is gonna be a promotional pick, I think I realized it’ll probably not be Paper Mario, SWSH, or King Boo so I’ll no longer stand by a Gen 8 mon in my prediction list.

 

[waterhasataste]

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

I understand that things are now more complicated now and I'm sure Nintendo will give news in due time

Though I just wish they were more transparent about their plans so we know what to expect. It's annoying being in the dark. Especially when other companies have been a lot more clear on their news. If they can't show much this month, perfectly fine, but I'd like to know so I can set my expectations accordingly

 

[CannonStreak]

So, what are the odds of a reveal next week, now that we know what has been happening with the marketing thing and COVID-19?

 

[Polarthief]

So, what are the odds of a reveal next week, now that we know what has been happening with the marketing thing and COVID-19?

Next week is like 99.999999999999% likely, assuming it's not Thursday. Investors' meeting is the 26th; they have to show off something for that. Reveal could be as late as the 30th, but let's take one step at a time.

If they had to delay to July, they would have said something by now.

 

[pinshadow]

So, what are the odds of a reveal next week, now that we know what has been happening with the marketing thing and COVID-19?

• Now that we know what's happening with the marketing thing

Dude that was in the investors report from like 2 months ago, this is nothing new, they said the character is coming out in June and there is literally no reason to change that. We aren't getting anything this week, (the two times they did announce Hero and Terry's presentations at 6:00PM PST was because they were shadowdropped two days later with their respective online tournaments, the same thing happened with Banjo, they only don't announce events when the character drops that week because the tournament relates to them, and given that if we keep the current pattern of having a spirit event this week, we get a tournament next week, wonder who it might be for.) so I just assume it's getting dropped next week and they've gone back to doing shadowdropped releases for no reason.

EDIT : And look at that, random spirit event about... horns I guess. See you guys next week for the reveal.

【スピリッツイベント】
6/19(金)から3日間、「突く！ 魅せる！ ツノ自慢のスピリッツ」を開催！ スピリッツボードにツノを持つスピリッツがたくさん出現。バトルに勝利すると、おやつを追加で入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/IZp8iwCKwg

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) June 17, 2020

 

[GodzillaGuy64]

I’m getting a little tired of this

【スピリッツイベント】
6/19(金)から3日間、「突く！ 魅せる！ ツノ自慢のスピリッツ」を開催！ スピリッツボードにツノを持つスピリッツがたくさん出現。バトルに勝利すると、おやつを追加で入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/IZp8iwCKwg

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) June 17, 2020

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

EDIT : And look at that, random spirit event about... horns I guess. See you guys next week for the reveal.

【スピリッツイベント】
6/19(金)から3日間、「突く！ 魅せる！ ツノ自慢のスピリッツ」を開催！ スピリッツボードにツノを持つスピリッツがたくさん出現。バトルに勝利すると、おやつを追加で入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/IZp8iwCKwg

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) June 17, 2020

Remember kids, always expect the worst possible outcome: You'll be prepared for when it happens and pleasantly surprised when it doesn't happen

Still really bites though

 

[JarBear]

A horny spirit event eh?

 

[Deleted member]

With the way Nintendo is handling not only Smash, but lackluster news in general, I wouldn’t be surprised to see 7’s reveal in September. They’re really going to drag all their crap huh?

 

[Sigran101]

It's so ironic for me that the reveal is likely next week. I've waited anxiously so long for the reveal, but I'm not even going to be paying attention when it finally happens because I'll be at Universal Studios on Monday through Thursday.

 

[MattX20]

Nintendo didn't announce any additional delays to FP6 so it must be revealed next week without fail. They've got no other option at this point

 

[RetrogamerMax]

A horny spirit event eh?

That sounds so wrong lol!

 

[MisterMike]

A horny spirit event eh?

Very... VERY horny.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Well, I'm going to work in a minute so I'll see you guys tomorrow.

 

[MattX20]

The horn puns are on full display I see

 

[Xehanort1372019]

To keep Geno spirits up, here's another YouTuber who thinks Geno is a grantee for Vol. 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEMVHTyZ6CE

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

A horny spirit event eh?

Daily reminder that Horny people have no rights:

Remember kids, always expect the worst possible outcome: You'll be prepared for when it happens and pleasantly surprised when it doesn't happen

Still really bites though

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Once again, Murphy's law is proven right.

Very... VERY horny.
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GAH! Demon Waifus, burn into the ground i say!

The power of Doom Guy compels you!

Spoiler

 

[JarBear]

The horn puns are on full display I see

They certainly are on point.

 

[MisterMike]

They certainly are on point.

People have really taken this amazing opprotunity and ram with it.

 

[JarBear]

To keep Geno spirits up, here's another YouTuber who thinks Geno is a grantee for Vol. 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEMVHTyZ6CE

what to you know, Thunder Productions jumped right on that.

 

[Sigran101]

Daily reminder that Horny people have no rights:

Once again, Murphy's law is proven right.


GAH! Demon Waifus, burn into the ground i say!

The power of Doom Guy compels you!

Spoiler

The **** is Larry the cucumber doing in that meme?

 

[Xehanort1372019]

what to you know, Thunder Productions jumped right on that.

Don't care what he has to say. He's just a sad little man, who spends his time arguing with people on the internet, cause he hates people who think differently than him.

 

[Enigma735]

It really sucks to say we must really be getting the reveal of the ARMS character and CP7 at the end of June. Usually I'm pretty good with patience and all that, but this is where I draw the line. 2020 has been BORING for Nintendo and they really dropped the ball on us hard. The only game that has released this year for them was Animal Crossing: New Horizons, and while I do enjoy that game, one good game isn't gonna do it for the whole year. Nintendo really needs to step it up a little bit with announcements. And I most CERTAINLY think Pokemon news is the last thing we need right now. We literally just had a Pokemon Direct like two weeks ago. I get that Pokemon is literally one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, but why pad out the month with two presentations in one month when they don't even have their entire line-up revealed for this year yet?

I get quarantine is a thing and this pandemic has definitely put a damper on things, for sure, but other gaming companies seem to have no issue with revealing games and hosting huge events to show off their games. And before people say that Japan probably has more cases of COVID then in America, let me just remind you that other Japanese companies are also revealing games just fine. The only company that seems to be struggling with revealing anything is Nintendo, and they should honestly be the last company to have this issue.

I don't mean to sound like I'm rambling or how I'm being toxic, but as a consumer, I have the right to disagree with a company's decision, and if I do dislike something, I have every right to get my voice heard and complain about something. 2020 is by far the worst year to be a Nintendo fan imo and whatever they have planned this year, it HAS to be good.

 

[MisterMike]

what to you know, Thunder Productions jumped right on that.

I got curious and decided to watch his "Smashed on Spirits" video because his description claims that it'll explain why Spirits disconfirm characters. After about 5 minutes of him playing Spirit Battles as Incineroar and spamming Darkest Lariat over and over, he finally begins to explain his reasoning.

From what I can tell based on this video, his reasoning Spirits disconfirm characters seems to be because... they just do. He goes on about how characters like Mario and Peach have multiple Spirits, but that those don't count as evidence that Spirits don't disconfirm because they're, to paraphrase, "not the same as the version in Smash Ultimate". I dunno, he does a really poor job at explaining himself.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So, what are the odds of a reveal next week, now that we know what has been happening with the marketing thing and COVID-19?

I mean, pretty damn good, at least for the ARMS character. For another reveal I feel like it’s pretty slim. I feel like this month is slipping away faster and faster without a general direct and I don’t think we’re getting another character in anything but a Direct.

But I have echoed this a couple times now so I’m sure I sound like a broken record but I don’t think we’re getting a direct or a reveal this month other than ARMS.

 

[Franauts]

Just like zero said in a recent video, the Smash community is going through dark times. Byleth was hated by most of the people who watched the stream, probably the fighter pass 2 hasn't sold as well as 1 at the time because of this. I love Arms and everything, but it's not something as impressive as Joker from Persona 5 (Also, the trailer was shadowdropped and obviusly the people were spoiled) it has been almost 6 months since the last reveal, EVO and other tournaments have withdrawn Smash from their lineup (Online) etc.

Personally, I used to play smash like a lot, but in front of a screen, with friends in a coach, or at university in tabletop mode, due to the quarantine and the lousy Online I no longer play as much as before, I don't know if it happens to the rest.


If we have to wait until September to know who # 7 is, I don't know what will happen to the Smash community.

 

[Deleted member]

Welp, if something leaks from Nintendo, that’s their own fault for not letting it out. I’ll thank the leakers for giving us the information we waited to hear.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I got curious and decided to watch his "Smashed on Spirits" video because his description claims that it'll explain why Spirits disconfirm characters. After about 5 minutes of him playing Spirit Battles as Incineroar and spamming Darkest Lariat over and over, he finally begins to explain his reasoning.

From what I can tell based on this video, his reasoning Spirits disconfirm characters seems to be because... they just do. He goes on about how characters like Mario and Peach have multiple Spirits, but that those don't count as evidence that Spirits don't disconfirm because they're, to paraphrase, "not the same as the version in Smash Ultimate". I dunno, he does a really poor job at explaining himself.

Seriously? That’s easily debunked by saying “well Robin and Wii Fit and whoever use their Smash render for their spirits and by this logic spirits like Geno’s can do the same with their game title added onto the original if this even matters.”

Or “but Mario is canonically the same character in all of his game appearances and there’s multiple non-fighter spirits of him and other characters.”

This guy is just grasping at straws. I figured everyone would at least be arguing Nintendo’s and Sakurai’s potential thoughts or the spirits’ time of being added by now (which doesn’t seem to be a problem anymore), not “they can’t get in because they’re already a 2-year old spirit that was added before Pass 2 was decided!!!1!1,” but nooo, we still got dudes not using any logic...

 

[MisterMike]

Just like zero said in a recent video, the Smash community is going through dark times. Byleth was hated by most of the people who watched the stream, probably the fighter pass 2 hasn't sold as well as 1 at the time because of this. I love Arms and everything, but it's not something as impressive as Joker from Persona 5, it has been almost 6 months since the last reveal, EVO and other tournaments have withdrawn Smash from their lineup (Online) etc.


If we have to wait until September to know who # 7 is, I don't know what will happen to the Smash community.

The Smash Community will be fine. (probly)

 

[Franauts]

I always found funny that there are people believing that Spirits deconfirm. They are a miserable little pile of .PNG archives.

I imagine Businessmen, heads of the industry, dressed formally at a meeting, discussing which characters could be in one of the biggest advertising games in the industry, but one saying "We can't add that character, it's a spirit "