Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[MattX20]

Good afternoon, friends; I'm passing through to provide some more little facts and things that I've stumbled across on Social Media. This is some slightly unfortunate news, depending on how you look at this, although for others, this may be something of a bit of closure.

It seems a listing of all the plushies from the run that included the likes of Boshi and Mallow has been found and presented to us, and the long-sought Geno plushie from this run... has been confirmed to have not existed at all, it seems. The mystery of this missing plush is that there was no plush TO be missing. Which is incredibly strange, considering the one character that was canonically a toy was never himself made into a plush toy

I'm a little saddened that an official product never existed, but at the same time, I won't sit here wondering if such a thing had just been lost to time forever.

https://twitter.com/LSuperSonicQ/status/1272929035178446848?s=20

That's a shame. Still, Geno merch being more common thanks to Smash would be a blessing

 

[Enigma735]

I would give anything to have an official Geno Amiibo.

 

[Firox]

If we actually just waited 5 months for ONE character, I'm gonna blow a gasket. I don't think Ninty would be that insane and oblivious to only push out a half reveal in Q1 and the second half of that reveal at E3. 6 was delayed and needed more time, meaning their original plans would most likely have been 6 at Q1 and then 7 and 8 at E3, which still leads me to believe we're seeing 6-8 in a week.

I really hope this is the case. Under normal circumstances, I would totally expect a double reveal MINIMUM given the 5-6 month gap and the timing of E3. I still think that the reason the ARMS character wasn't fully revealed months ago was because they are going to totally destroy the "spirits deconfirm" rule and that fighter 7 (and possibly 8) will therefore be spirit/AT upgrades. That said, the timing for Geno needs to be soon. If he's going to happen, there's no better time.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

I just hope the rest of the pass doesn't take nearly this long for another character reveal.

The wait between Joker and Hero was nowhere as long compared to PP and Joker, reveal or release wise, so i would not be worried too much.

Now the wait between Fighter 10 and 11, if the wait between Terry and Byleth is any indication...........

 

[MattX20]

The wait between Joker and Hero was nowhere as long compared to PP and Joker, reveal or release wise, so i would not be worried too much.

Now the wait between Fighter 10 and 11, if the wait between Terry and Byleth is any indication...........

That wait was tolerable by comparison. Plus, it was only about a 2 month gap between Terry's release and Byleth's reveal/release

 

[HudU]

I really hope a smash announcement or even a game announcement at this point is happening soon. The last major news outside of a jump roping game was for Paper Mario which is the only game we have confirmed with a release date coming this year.

 

[Polarthief]

I really hope this is the case. Under normal circumstances, I would totally expect a double reveal MINIMUM given the 5-6 month gap and the timing of E3. I still think that the reason the ARMS character wasn't fully revealed months ago was because they are going to totally destroy the "spirits deconfirm" rule and that fighter 7 (and possibly 8) will therefore be spirit/AT upgrades. That said, the timing for Geno needs to be soon. If he's going to happen, there's no better time.

Maybe they're just waiting to the very last second (investor's meeting on the 26th) and then they blow our minds with 2.5 reveals: Hero-style ARMS character, Geno, and Crash.

 

[Firox]

Maybe they're just waiting to the very last second (investor's meeting on the 26th) and then they blow our minds with 2.5 reveals: Hero-style ARMS character, Geno, and Crash.

If they actually ended up doing this, all sins would be forgiven.

 

[Andwooooo]

They’d need to do that a few days before to properly gauge fan reaction. Otherwise they could just tell the investors their plans and not the fans.

 

[Lord Woomy]

I hate to be the one who said I told you so, but I've been saying this from the start

We have Pokémon news.
You want Pokémon news.

🤔

Sounds to us like you should tune in tomorrow at 6 a.m. PDT for #PokemonPresents! What do you think, Trainers? https://t.co/IHH4pyavUh pic.twitter.com/zEY0zzS04Q

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) June 16, 2020

Nintendo doesn't do anniversaries, and they will NOT risk overshadowing Pokemon, just like how we were forced to wait until the end of July for Hero because of Fire Emblem

So yeah, who's ready for even more wasted time?

"We have Pokémon news." Yup, I'm sure ya do
"You want Pokémon news." Nah, I think I'm good

 

[Polarthief]

If they actually ended up doing this, all sins would be forgiven.

I wouldn't say all, but a lot would definitely be forgiven, yes.

 

[MattX20]

I'm not going to hold out hopes for an announcement for the reveal(s) after the tournament concludes this weekend, so we'll just have to wait and see beyond it

 

[domriver]

no announcement - we wait till tomorrow then....

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

That may be true but i would take litterally any other character from Namco then him. Give us a tales of rep, or ivy from soul caliber, the taiko drum from those games, mr druller, litterally anyone else from tekken, then Heihatchi

How about the Prince from Katamari Damacy? Super unique character, fantastic music, colorful stage and characters, what's not to love? keep in mind that the first game's remaster (Katamari Damacy Reroll) was released the same day as Smash yet still ranked #4 worldwide in top eShop sales. He's the only other character alongside Heihachi to be added to Pac Man's taunt (while Tales of was nowhere to be seen), showing that he was at least on the development team's minds. If base game spirits don't deconfirm Geno, then a base game taunt doesn't deconfirm the Prince.

Furthermore Katamari is back on the Namco website, he got special Lootbox merchandise for the 15th anniversary, and has been getting much more merchandise in general. Keep in mind that Katamari didn't get this during even its' heyday in the 2000's.

H***, there's even a fantastic moveset video for him! (though I'll admit, that model isn't very good)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4HU7-q70JU

--The webcomic continuation got canned

Same happened to katamari, namco ended its' partnership with ShiftyLook who was making the comics.

>Cacodemon doesn't come with Doomguy, is the only Doom content

Cacodemon's the mascot of the DOOM franchise, it's general enough to represent the series through a costume, kinda like how Vault Boy is for Fallout. Cacodemon could come with any Bethesda rep, even if Doom Slayer's fanbase is too arrogant to realize it.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

View attachment 275015 no announcement - we wait till tomorrow then....

Next week, if even that, because Pokemon is Daddy Nintendo's special child that just needs all the attention

 

[MattX20]

Next week, if even that, because Pokemon is Daddy Nintendo's special child that just needs all the attention

Haunter may be my favorite Pokemon of all time, but I agree that we need a break from Pokemon for a good while

 

[Lord Woomy]

Also regarding the Heihachi stuff, I doubt it's Smash.
I feel like this is just another case of "Not everything is Smash related." I mean, it could be, but I really doubt it is.
Not saying he can't be in, but I honestly doubt he'd be FP7 really. I think another Namco rep is due but my money's still on Lloyd RN.

 

[Enigma735]

Also regarding the Heihachi stuff, I doubt it's Smash.
I feel like this is just another case of "Not everything is Smash related." I mean, it could be, but I really doubt it is.
Not saying he can't be in, but I honestly doubt he'd be FP7 really. I think another Namco rep is due but my money's still on Lloyd RN.

I feel the same way. I do think Heihachi has a chance, but I don't think this necessarily means Smash, and we don't even know for sure if these Vergeben DM's are actually real.

Though if these DM's are real and Heihachi will guest star in something soon, my guess would be KOF XV since Heihachi has been a common guest character in those games, and I feel if this was Smash related, Vergeben would have outright stated it was for Smash

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

I wouldn't say all, but a lot would definitely be forgiven, yes.

damn, you’re tough. You wouldn’t totally forgive them if they showed us GENO, arms character and crash all at once?!

 

[Polarthief]

damn, you’re tough. You wouldn’t totally forgive them if they showed us GENO, arms character and crash all at once?!

The ARMS character I don't reeeeeeally care about, and that was intended to be a Q1 reveal, so they're irrelevant. Crash I legitimately have no ties to and therefore don't care if he's in or not. Geno is my most wanted and that would be awesome yes, but after waiting forever and still having radio silence on games and them not learning a damn thing about how to talk to their fans? Nah. They're still handling many things exceptionally poorly and are refusing to budge.

 

[axel_]

The ARMS character I don't reeeeeeally care about, and that was intended to be a Q1 reveal, so they're irrelevant. Crash I legitimately have no ties to and therefore don't care if he's in or not. Geno is my most wanted and that would be awesome yes, but after waiting forever and still having radio silence on games and them not learning a damn thing about how to talk to their fans? Nah. They're still handling many things exceptionally poorly and are refusing to budge.

Pretty much this. My preferred outcome for the next few reveals to forgive this atrocious wait would be

Twintelle/Min Min - I get an ARMS character I actually like and this ****ty Hero v2 idea finally gets to be buried six feet under.
Geno - Well, if I didn't want Geno then I wouldn't be typing in this thread right now.
Doomguy - A third party franchise I actually care about, although I'm worried they focus too much on Doom Eternal and everything that's actually important to Doom would be completely ignored. I'm sure Sakurai and Nintendo would pull off Doom in Smash right.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

The ARMS character I don't reeeeeeally care about, and that was intended to be a Q1 reveal, so they're irrelevant. Crash I legitimately have no ties to and therefore don't care if he's in or not. Geno is my most wanted and that would be awesome yes, but after waiting forever and still having radio silence on games and them not learning a damn thing about how to talk to their fans? Nah. They're still handling many things exceptionally poorly and are refusing to budge.

To each their own, but I certainly don’t need to want each and every DLC addition. I’m in the group that will literally never ask for anything again after getting Geno.

The silence thing is Nintendo’s strong suit, unfortunately I don’t know how much better they’ll get at that

 

[Xehanort1372019]

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

 

[Firox]

To each their own, but I certainly don’t need to want each and every DLC addition. I’m in the group that will literally never ask for anything again after getting Geno.

The silence thing is Nintendo’s strong suit, unfortunately I don’t know how much better they’ll get at that

This is probably the most realistic expectation anyone can ask for. Asking Nintendo to stop being stupid in most other regards is a pretty moot request. Besides, as long as people keep shelling out money, they have no reason to improve anyway.

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

I find it fascinating that Sony and Microsoft's marketing teams remain completely intact.

EDIT: LOL Looks like a got 'd by Pinshadow.

 

[pinshadow]

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

I'd be more inclined to be ok with this if pretty much every other video game company wasn't hosting a replacement presentation or revealing their stuff at said replacement events while Nintendo has twidled their thumbs for the last half a year revealing nothing but a few Eshop games, a board game collection, and a Paper Mario game that, incase you haven't realized, this thread in particular is not exactly happy with the direction it's taking. I mean christ they are literally holding a Pokemon Direct tommorrow. I'm just completely confounded with how Nintendo is handling this entire situation, not even the ARMS rep just news in general.

 

[SSGuy]

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

Thanks for bringing this into the thread.

Just as a reminder, I know things have been a little tense with what is at stake, but let's make sure we aren't the ones begging for a direct but instead showing Nintendo how thankful we are for everything they do. Things can't be easy and being nice to the Nintendo social media guys is probably the best thing we can do during these really difficult times.

It will eventually come. That we know for a fact. Let's just be sure we are moving forward while continuing to put Geno and the community in the best light possible.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

From the ARMS Thread.

https://twitter.com/Sephazon/status/1272865252309262337

I'll say it again

Even before the virus it was very clear something was off: Basically nothing between Terry and the long, drawn out wait to get Byleth and the season two announcement. From there... absolutely nothing on the slate except Animal Crossing and Xenoblade, and they spent basically two months doing nothing but hyping up Animal Crossing

Even the lead up to Xenoblade felt underwhelming compared to how hard they pushed Animal Crossing. It's very obvious Nintendo just didn't have anything and they expected Animal Crossing to carry them for a good long time. The proof of it alone was in the Mini-Direct where it was just small third party titles and a "Oh btw ARMS in Smash" tease. Heck, Paper Mario should have been something shown off in the last Mini-Direct, but the fact that they only told us it exists NOW sounds more like a lack of confidence in their own product

And now they have so little of nothing that they're spacing out all of their announcements. All of this Pokemon news could have come last week or the week before but I guess we're doing it now just for the sake of dragging it out

Nintendo wasn't going to have a good year with or without the virus messing things up

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I rather have Siegfried/Nightmare. A swordsman that is more visually distinct than LLoyd.
Go explain to casual people between every anime swordsman. They+ll look at you funny.

Extremely unrelated but today I realised that the wish stars from Star Hill are just green star bits.

Spoiler

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It's all connected! Rosalina really did sent Geno to save the Mushroom Kingdom.

I hate to be the one who said I told you so, but I've been saying this from the start

We have Pokémon news.
You want Pokémon news.

🤔

Sounds to us like you should tune in tomorrow at 6 a.m. PDT for #PokemonPresents! What do you think, Trainers? https://t.co/IHH4pyavUh pic.twitter.com/zEY0zzS04Q

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) June 16, 2020

Nintendo doesn't do anniversaries, and they will NOT risk overshadowing Pokemon, just like how we were forced to wait until the end of July for Hero because of Fire Emblem

So yeah, who's ready for even more wasted time?

Well ****!

 

[QQS]

So if we got no Smash news on Thursday or Friday, we will have 100% next week the reveal, right?

Anyway the double reveal is guaranteed for me and we will see it in less than 10 days.

Don’t give up.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I'll say it again

Even before the virus it was very clear something was off: Basically nothing between Terry and the long, drawn out wait to get Byleth and the season two announcement. From there... absolutely nothing on the slate except Animal Crossing and Xenoblade, and they spent basically two months doing nothing but hyping up Animal Crossing

Even the lead up to Xenoblade felt underwhelming compared to how hard they pushed Animal Crossing. It's very obvious Nintendo just didn't have anything and they expected Animal Crossing to carry them for a good long time. The proof of it alone was in the Mini-Direct where it was just small third party titles and a "Oh btw ARMS in Smash" tease. Heck, Paper Mario should have been something shown off in the last Mini-Direct, but the fact that they only told us it exists NOW sounds more like a lack of confidence in their own product

And now they have so little of nothing that they're spacing out all of their announcements. All of this Pokemon news could have come last week or the week before but I guess we're doing it now just for the sake of dragging it out

Nintendo wasn't going to have a good year with or without the virus messing things up

There's still hope for them Mario remasters, at least.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So if we got no Smash news on Thursday or Friday, we will have 100% next week the reveal, right?

Anyway the double reveal is guaranteed for me and we will see it in less than 10 days.

Don’t give up.

Probably next week. The week after is not impossible either. Smash DLC has been close to end of month before. This isn't treated like a new game announcement, which is generally in the first two weeks and rarely the third week.

Worst thing that could happen is a delay till July, but they'd outright let us know. Most likely it's still June.

I'm expecting July or August for CP7's reveal now with how spaced out the announcements in general are.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Probably next week. The week after is not impossible either. Smash DLC has been close to end of month before. This isn't treated like a new game announcement, which is generally in the first two weeks and rarely the third week.

Worst thing that could happen is a delay till July, but they'd outright let us know. Most likely it's still June.

I'm expecting July or August for CP7's reveal now with how spaced out the announcements in general are.

I just keep being reminded more and more how Nintendo could have easily soothed over all of this frustration and bitterness with something as simple as a tweet saying "Challenger Pack 6 for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate will be revealed in the later half of this month!"

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Good afternoon, friends; I'm passing through to provide some more little facts and things that I've stumbled across on Social Media. This is some slightly unfortunate news, depending on how you look at this, although for others, this may be something of a bit of closure.

It seems a listing of all the plushies from the run that included the likes of Boshi and Mallow has been found and presented to us, and the long-sought Geno plushie from this run... has been confirmed to have not existed at all, it seems. The mystery of this missing plush is that there was no plush TO be missing. Which is incredibly strange, considering the one character that was canonically a toy was never himself made into a plush toy

I'm a little saddened that an official product never existed, but at the same time, I won't sit here wondering if such a thing had just been lost to time forever.

The mario rpg plush set sheet has finally been found!

It confirms that Mallow is official and Geno does not exist! https://t.co/gpRp6m7Awx

— LSuperSonicQ (@LSuperSonicQ) June 16, 2020

The mystery has finally been solved! Damnit I really wish the Geno plush existed. I was hoping when they find the page sheet Geno would be on there confirming the plush's existence. But man that sucks to hear. I least we now know for 100% fact that the Mallow plush is real. #Mallowisreal

 

[Andwooooo]

There’s no better hype tool than the unknown. If Nintendo reveals a when, then people stop talking about it until the when approaches. We all hate it, but if we knew officially that Arms was coming on 24 June, we’d stop talking about it.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

There’s no better hype tool than the unknown. If Nintendo reveals a when, then people stop talking about it until the when approaches. We all hate it, but if we knew officially that Arms was coming on 24 June, we’d stop talking about it.

The thing is it's not hype anymore, it's resentment. We've been jerked around for almost half a year and it's like the hill of a roller coaster that just doesn't end. At some point you stop anticipating the drop and just want it over with

 

[Let Geno Smash]

Guys i question, do you that we are finally getting new spirits today?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Guys i question, do you that we are finally getting new spirits today?

We can only hope.

I'm not counting on it, though.

 

[Megadoomer]

Guys i question, do you that we are finally getting new spirits today?

At this point, I don't think we'll be getting new spirits until the ARMS character is released.

 

[Andwooooo]

The thing is it's not hype anymore, it's resentment. We've been jerked around for almost half a year and it's like the hill of a roller coaster that just doesn't end. At some point you stop anticipating the drop and just want it over with

*We’re* resenting it. The general fan base doesn’t care.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

The thing is it's not hype anymore, it's resentment. We've been jerked around for almost half a year and it's like the hill of a roller coaster that just doesn't end. At some point you stop anticipating the drop and just want it over with

We are in Sakurai's Infinite Tsukuyomi so the ride never ends.