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I know, and I'm not saying it *will* happen, it's just the paranoia giving me that doubt that it *could* happen because Nintendo has been a big bag of wangs post-E3 2019. Like I said in my last post, I thoroughly do believe Geno's still coming.
I thought we were discussing Rayman as well lol. The first part of my one post was regarding Rayman and the second Paper Mario/Geno. That's why I brought up the Japan thing. But Polarthief is right that that's not necessarily a death sentence which is something I acknowledged. I just can't see Rayman happening between his lack of popularity in Japan and the Ubisoft Mii costumes.
Is this how probability works now?
It's different because there's less evidence for Paper Mario than there is for King Boo. As far as the reason people are acting like Paper Mario is a serious threat anyway? Most likely because they think he'd come with a sticker star/ color splash moveset which would be super dissapointing and after years and even decades of supporting Geno they've become extremely pessimistic.
... You’ve never actually taken a statistics class have you?
Idk I think what he/ she is basically trying to say with those numbers is that there is a ~60% chance of a mii costume coming back as a mii costume. 16/26. So they would be correct in that sense that you’re more than likely to get a mii costume to return.
Only 6 3rd party Mii Fighter costumes and a hat remain, and 2 of those costumes, Geno and Lloyd Irving, are prime candidates for being upgraded into fully playable characters. I wouldn't be too keen on counting them out given we went an entire Fighter Pass with no sign of them
Geno and either Lloyd or Heihachi, not just Lloyd. Could be both Lloyd and Heihachi, but I seriously doubt any company but Nintendo would get a double-up... that said though, Namco's been helping a ton with Sm4sh and Ultimate, so if anyone deserved it, it should be them!
For real.
I doubt Heihachi enormously due to being part of Pacman's taunt. That, and if they really wanted a Tekken character, they would go with Jin since he's the main character since Tekken 3. That, and Tales is the much larger series for Bandai Namco on top of its major anniversary recently.
Ah yes, the good ole' argument that "this character already has a tiny, unintrusive sprite cameo in a character's taunt, which means it's completely impossible for them to become fully playable". You know, just like how Geno obviously can't be playable because he's already in the game as a Spirit... right?
That means nothing. Honestly, that's even lower on the totem pole than having a spirit (I don't actually know if there is/isn't a Heihachi spirit).
I wasn't saying it's for sure gonna be Heihachi over Lloyd; I do think Lloyd has better chances, I was just pointing out that it's possible since his costume is also missing. I wouldn't be surprised if when one comes out, the other is costumed. I also haven't been following any other character besides Geno.
Let's also not forget that Chrom is still in Robin's final smash and victory screen, despite now being a separate playable character.
Heihachi is more important to the franchise and already had considered way beforehand. He's pretty much as close to a mascot as you can get.
If a single static image that didn't impact gameplay was enough to disqualify a character from being playable, then you'd think that every single spirit (Geno included) would be disqualified under the same criteria. (it seems like an odd reason for saying that a character can't make it in since this couldn't possibly be mistaken for this)
I'm personally in the belief that spirits/costumes/etc stuff in base very likely did influence FP1, in the way that the FP1 characters were specifically not put in base as anything, and that spirit events mostly from the latter half of FP1, as well as costumes, will also influence FP2. This is also why I believe Geno's costume hasn't come yet.
Yeah, which means most of everyone's most wanted list, especially anyone from Nintendo, likely gets deconfirmed from that.
Not really. I've never touched a Tekken game but I'm fairly certain he doesn't have a projectile (unless you count that weird beachball thing from PS All-Stars), he doesn't have a designated spin kick, and Tekken is nowhere near similar to Street Fighter As 3D vs 2D. Heck it could be argued Terry is more similar to Ryu and Fatal Fury being more similar but even then they are still pretty much non comparable. Tekken would also have unique mechanics, you just said so yourself. Button combinations would be unique and they are perfectly doable now as characters like Bayonetta and such have had things comparable since then suggesting it's perfectly doable. That combined with how you still think the sprite is reasonable to use against him despite people saying why that inevitably wouldn't be the case makes me think it's just your disliking of the character.
I find guessing probability like this to not make much sense considering we’re talking about human beings here and they could just as well promote another one of them (or even all of them if they wanted to, but of course there’s going to be different kinds of characters they want which is the only reason why this stuff doesn’t make zero sense). If they deem they can make a profit off of Geno and other characters as fighters and make people happy, and don’t have anyone else prioritized this time, they’ll likely do it if they can.
Well most of the Mii Costumes that did come back as Mii Costumes aren't exactly front-runners when it comes to fan demand to be fair. Characters like Akira, Zero, Takamaru aren't widely supported in Smash. That's not trashing them as characters, but none of them are considered most requested to be in Smash.
Heihachi is as interesting as Ryu or Terry, which isn't saying much at all. Lloyd is a big fan request so I wouldn't mind that much but it is a JRPG character that is a human that has a swinging weapon.
Crazy idea: Heihachi, Lloyd, AND Nightmare. Namco's done a lot for Smash so they deserve a ton of extra reps. That leaves enough room for ARMS, Geno, and 1 more 3rd party. Then Waluigi surprises us as a bonus.
His chances wouldn't remotely change because a YouTuber posts a video. He's been locked in since June last year.
It's implied that Lloyd's costume was supposed to have come back with Byleth? Not sure how you came to that conclusion, given that Byleth's Mii Costumes wave was another grab bag.
Lemme explain with an example.
Not him but I feel it's more a general assumption based on the idea that all of the Smash 4 costumes were meant to comeback at some point. I have a feeling Byleth is the grab bag it is precisely because of costumes being moved around to characters later in the pass.
That is probably the most ignorant statement towards a Smash fighter idea I've ever heard, good lord. This is somehow more offensive than anything that could ever be said about Geno.
On the other hand, fan demand also seems to be their only reason for making the deluxe mii costumes. Sans and CupHead are really popular. That's why I think Lloyd, Geno and Monster Hunter could be our next deluxe costumes. At this point, I'm looking forward the June direct, not because of the Arms character, but because I want to know who's the next deluxe costume.
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Indeed, Lloyd and Geno were very popular during the Brawl era of speculation, and both of them have quite a few parallels.
It’s not the video itself I meant, but what it said about Rayman and Paper Mario, and possibly the evidence along with them.His chances wouldn't remotely change because a YouTuber posts a video. He's been locked in since June last year.
