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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Let Geno Smash

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I don’t know if this has been posted so here it is. Probably my favorite Geno render up to date. This is porn to my eyes. Cant wait to see the true Ultimate Geno model as, hopefully, character #77 in June after the Arms reveal (#76). My faith is intact, for all the reasons and theories exposed and everything we know, for me Geno is 100% in as a playable character. Don’t blame me for my confidence or my optimism, I can believe what I want and I’m pretty sure he will be playable somewhere in the FP2. It all adds up, its too much facts and time in his favor.

Credits to all the people mentioned by @Flambo237 on Twitter and all the creators of the design.

GENO AWAKENS!
Why you claim there is &$^! on geno's eyes?
Pd: Sorry i read wrong, you are only saying you like Geno's Render, it is really nice
 
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QQS

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Why you claim there is &$^! on geno's eyes?
Pd: Sorry i read wrong, you are only saying you like Geno's Render, it is really nice
yes, my English isn’t native. But I mean that the render is so epic and beautiful. Best wishes!
 

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I don’t know if this has been posted so here it is. Probably my favorite Geno render up to date. This is porn to my eyes. Cant wait to see the true Ultimate Geno model as, hopefully, character #77 in June after the Arms reveal (#76). My faith is intact, for all the reasons and theories exposed and everything we know, for me Geno is 100% in as a playable character. Don’t blame me for my confidence or my optimism, I can believe what I want and I’m pretty sure he will be playable somewhere in the FP2. It all adds up, its too much facts and time in his favor.

Credits to all the people mentioned by @Flambo237 on Twitter and all the creators of the design.

GENO AWAKENS!
Ooh, I like this render
 

Glitch-EGamer

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So, Square has allowed Trials of Mana to get a spirit set. We're actually getting somewhere, it seems. I'm wondering if Geno will take the world by storm sooner rather than later. I'm still not fond of the idea of another FF7 rep because it's true what they say, there really is no sense in beating a dead horse. I don't want to be that guy but I really am not a fan of the idea of more FF7 content, at least in the fighter department. I'm not inherently a fan of Fire Emblem and although I wasn't a fan of Byleth, I could atleast accept it because it was from a new game from the same franchise. It'd be different if they had pandered for yet another Awakening character as a fully-priced DLC slot. Regardless of his iconic status, I really don't think Sephiroth or any of the other major party members of FF7 are going to be playable in Smash. It'd be a huge middle finger to the massive amount of other Square characters who have massive fanbases like Geno, Sora, and dare I say 2B and Lara, especially if it's for promotion like so many of you seem sold on. I can now maybe see FF7 getting a spirit event too but at this point, I'm completely sold Geno is coming. I'll eat a picture of this text if I'm wrong.

Also, explain how the heck Resident Evil spirits = Mega Mans for Byleth. By that logic, why didn't Proto Man and Zero ALSO come with Byleth? Riddle me that one. How is THAT of all things evidence against anything? How does Trials of Mana spirits = Geno deconfirmed? ):/
 
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My one problem with Fatmanonice Fatmanonice 's prediction is that it lacks Ryu Hayabusa. Honestly, I'd be super surprised if he didn't get in.
https://gonintendo.com/stories/3578...r-collaborations-with-nintendo-have-been-impo
With how cozy Koei Tecmo has been with Nintendo lately and comments like these, it would seem baffling if someone wasn't added to Smash. And it would be equally baffling if it wasn't Ryu Hayabusa.

The rest sounds very likely. Crash, Dante, Geno, Lloyd, Master Chief. All logical picks, but one of them is getting the boot. I'd bet Lloyd personally.
Hayabusa has been a really bizarre character. He's been speculated as the most likely character for the longest time but it almost feels like there are times where he just feels straight up like leak bait. I don't think he is particularly leak bait, but I also see that as a possibility.
 

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So, Square has allowed Trials of Mana to get a spirit set. We're actually getting somewhere, it seems. I'm wondering if Geno will take the world by storm sooner rather than later. I'm still not fond of the idea of another FF7 rep because it's true what they say, there really is no sense in beating a dead horse. I don't want to be that guy but I really am not a fan of the idea of more FF7 content, at least in the fighter department. I'm not inherently a fan of Fire Emblem and although I wasn't a fan of Byleth, I could atleast accept it because it was from a new game from the same franchise. It'd be different if they had pandered for yet another Awakening character as a fully-priced DLC slot. Regardless of his iconic status, I really don't think Sephiroth or any of the other major party members of FF7 are going to be playable in Smash. It'd be a huge middle finger to the massive amount of other Square characters who have massive fanbases like Geno, Sora, and dare I say 2B and Lara, especially if it's for promotion like so many of you seem sold on. I can now maybe see FF7 getting a spirit event too but at this point, I'm completely sold Geno is coming. I'll eat a picture of this text if I'm wrong.
A) The seventh installment in the most iconic of Final Fantasy, so if we are getting another FF character, it will without a doubt be from that game, be it either Sepiroth or Tifa.
B) Sora would still be Disney
C) Who says that Sepiroth (or Tifa) can¨t join in with Geno if Nintendo really wants to?
 

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A) The seventh installment in the most iconic of Final Fantasy, so if we are getting another FF character, it will without a doubt be from that game, be it either Sepiroth or Tifa.
B) Sora would still be Disney
C) Who says that Sepiroth (or Tifa) can¨t join in with Geno if Nintendo really wants to?
A) perhaps so but still doesn't mean they aren't still beating a dead horse.
b) I honestly don't know at this point.
c) never said they couldn't. Nowhere in that post did I say FF7 and Geno can't both be reps in the pass(?)
 

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A) perhaps so but still doesn't mean they aren't still beating a dead horse.
b) I honestly don't know at this point.
c) never said they couldn't. Nowhere in that post did I say FF7 and Geno can't both be reps in the pass(?)
A) I don¨t see how it is beating a dead horse concidering Final Fantasy has the least amount of content.
B) They would still fall under Disney
C) The way you worded your comment make it come of as that
 

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On the topic of spirits anyone know when the hell the River City spirits will show up again on the Spirit Board?
 

MrJudd

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They've been making spirit event announcements or tournament announcements every Tuesday on that account, actually.

Still, kind of crazy that Trials of Mana has more spirits than Final Fantasy VII.
I was actually referring to the Mario Maker 2 and Animal Crossing updates when talking about megatons as a joke. But I agree, this hopefully shows that Square wants to give more content now.
 

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yes, my English isn’t native. But I mean that the render is so epic and beautiful. Best wishes!
Yeah i have alredy understand
BTW: I aren't from USA as well, i am from Costa Rica and I think you are from Chile
Pd: I have just notice i write this in english being than both speak spanish
 
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StarLight42

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Alright, so i'm going to bring something to your guys' attention that I found a bit interesting

I'm gonna tag Fatmanonice Fatmanonice here but hopefully he won't mind. He's pretty much always been the "head-honcho" of this thread and I feel like he'd be interested in this stuff as it could add to some of his theories, namely that Six would've already been released, in April, by now.

So we all know how the surprise Mario Maker 2 update was announced yesterday out of absolutely nowhere. In that trailer, it had a Super Mario Bros. 2 mushroom for the Super Mario Bros. style, a SMB2 style was something that was highly fan requested from the Mario Maker community. Most of the other stuff in that trailer was similarly of the "high requested" variety. Koopalings, Worldmap Maker, new Powerups. Things people thought wouldn't get into the game but somehow did. Ironically, new game styles was one of the things people DID expect to get into the game, and even though it didn't happen in the end, it seems like that might've not always been the case.

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1252420215767351297

Futhermore, Imran himself, in a resetera thread discussing said Mario Maker 2 update, went on to say that he was "speculating" this and the new Mario Kart Tour update that added some builder costumes to the game would've originally been planned for a larger event during this month that would've focused exclusively on Mario. Interestingly, this backs up some previous claims from NateDrake, who said to expect an April event of some sort before he later backtracked on it and said plans had changed due to COVID complications.

NateDrake then went ahead and backed Imran's statement, probably meaning that the statement itself wasn't really "speculation". I notice that resetera insiders tend to do this a lot when they want to report on rumors they heard but not have said rumors be latched onto by marking them as speculation.

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(as a recap, nate had been hinting at some sort of April announcement for a while, before backing down a few weeks ago when he believed said event was cancelled)
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I think this could possibly pertain to Smash DLC as this would've been prime time to announce a Mario character, be it Geno, Waluigi, whatever, in a Mario Direct.

A counter argument would be that the first character would not even have been specified yet, but as Fatman clarified, he believes six was originally meant to be an April release which could have put it ahead of this "hypothetical" Mario Direct.

After Nate spilled the beans, Imran seemed to clarify that said announcements in this hypothetical direct have been spread out over time, some delayed

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Make what you will of this, but I thought it was worth posting. Imran is pretty credible and i'm sure most of us have talked about Nate one point or another.
 

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I don’t know if this has been posted so here it is. Probably my favorite Geno render up to date. This is porn to my eyes. Cant wait to see the true Ultimate Geno model as, hopefully, character #77 in June after the Arms reveal (#76). My faith is intact, for all the reasons and theories exposed and everything we know, for me Geno is 100% in as a playable character. Don’t blame me for my confidence or my optimism, I can believe what I want and I’m pretty sure he will be playable somewhere in the FP2. It all adds up, its too much facts and time in his favor.

Credits to all the people mentioned by @Flambo237 on Twitter and all the creators of the design.

GENO AWAKENS!
Okay, this is now my favorite render of Geno.
 

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Alright, so i'm going to bring something to your guys' attention that I found a bit interesting

I'm gonna tag Fatmanonice Fatmanonice here but hopefully he won't mind. He's pretty much always been the "head-honcho" of this thread and I feel like he'd be interested in this stuff as it could add to some of his theories, namely that Six would've already been released, in April, by now.

So we all know how the surprise Mario Maker 2 update was announced yesterday out of absolutely nowhere. In that trailer, it had a Super Mario Bros. 2 mushroom for the Super Mario Bros. style, a SMB2 style was something that was highly fan requested from the Mario Maker community. Most of the other stuff in that trailer was similarly of the "high requested" variety. Koopalings, Worldmap Maker, new Powerups. Things people thought wouldn't get into the game but somehow did. Ironically, new game styles was one of the things people DID expect to get into the game, and even though it didn't happen in the end, it seems like that might've not always been the case.

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1252420215767351297

Futhermore, Imran himself, in a resetera thread discussing said Mario Maker 2 update, went on to say that he was "speculating" this and the new Mario Kart Tour update that added some builder costumes to the game would've originally been planned for a larger event during this month that would've focused exclusively on Mario. Interestingly, this backs up some previous claims from NateDrake, who said to expect an April event of some sort before he later backtracked on it and said plans had changed due to COVID complications.

NateDrake then went ahead and backed Imran's statement, probably meaning that the statement itself wasn't really "speculation". I notice that resetera insiders tend to do this a lot when they want to report on rumors they heard but not have said rumors be latched onto by marking them as speculation.

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(as a recap, nate had been hinting at some sort of April announcement for a while, before backing down a few weeks ago when he believed said event was cancelled)
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I think this could possibly pertain to Smash DLC as this would've been prime time to announce a Mario character, be it Geno, Waluigi, whatever, in a Mario Direct.

A counter argument would be that the first character would not even have been specified yet, but as Fatman clarified, he believes six was originally meant to be an April release which could have put it ahead of this "hypothetical" Mario Direct.

After Nate spilled the beans, Imran seemed to clarify that said announcements in this hypothetical direct have been spread out over time, some delayed

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Make what you will of this, but I thought it was worth posting. Imran is pretty credible and i'm sure most of us have talked about Nate one point or another.
This is actually really solid. Well done!
 

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So here's a fun little game. Let's say that, for Geno's DLC pack, the developers decide to go ham again and manage to include 50 music tracks again, just like they did with Terry and SNK music. The music will be a mix of tracks from Mario RPG games (Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, and Mario & Luigi) and Square Enix games (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, etc... and since I know that "Square Enix is stingy" will be brought up, just pretend for this game that the developers managed to get through the necessary hoops for all of these).

Which 50 music tracks would you want included with Geno? Here's my personal choices...
  1. Happy Adventure, Delightful Adventure (Super Mario RPG)
  2. Fight Against Monsters (Super Mario RPG)
  3. Fight Against a Somewhat Stronger Monster (Super Mario RPG)
  4. Fight Against an Armed Boss (Super Mario RPG)
  5. Beware the Forest's Mushrooms (Super Mario RPG)
  6. Let's Go Down the Wine River (Super Mario RPG)
  7. Docaty Mountain Railroad (Super Mario RPG)
  8. Slope (Super Mario RPG)
  9. Fight Against Smithy (Super Mario RPG)
  10. Fight Against Smithy, Who Likes Transforming (Super Mario RPG)
  11. Battle (Paper Mario)
  12. Attack of the Koopa Bros. (Paper Mario)
  13. Keeping Pace (Paper Mario)
  14. Huffin' And Puffin' (Paper Mario)
  15. Freeze! (Paper Mario)
  16. King of the Koopas (Paper Mario)
  17. Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  18. Event Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  19. Magnus von Grapple Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  20. Rawk Hawk Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  21. Macho Grubba Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  22. Doopliss Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  23. Cortez Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  24. Grodus Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  25. Shadow Peach Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)
  26. Come On! (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)
  27. Come On, Again! (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)
  28. Rookie and Popple (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)
  29. The Final Stage (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)
  30. The Last Cackletta (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)
  31. Battle (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
  32. Boss Battle (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
  33. Bowser Battle (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
  34. Final Battle (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
  35. Battle (Final Fantasy I)
  36. Last Battle (Final Fantasy I)
  37. Battle (Final Fantasy IV)
  38. Boss Battle / Fight Against Culex (Final Fantasy IV / Super Mario RPG)
  39. Battle (Final Fantasy VI)
  40. The Decisive Battle (Final Fantasy VI)
  41. One Winged Angel (Final Fantasy VII)
  42. A Monster Draws Near (Dragon Quest I)
  43. Demon Attack (Dragon Quest II)
  44. Gypsy Dance (Dragon Quest IV)
  45. Monsters (Dragon Quest V)
  46. Battle I (Octopath Traveler)
  47. Decisive Battle I (Octopath Traveler)
  48. Battle II (Octopath Traveler)
  49. Decisive Battle II (Octopath Traveler)
  50. Battle III (Octopath Traveler)
The fact that your Square Enix music collection for Smash has zero Chrono Trigger music is probably the most disgraceful thing I've ever seen
 

Let Geno Smash

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Alright, so i'm going to bring something to your guys' attention that I found a bit interesting

I'm gonna tag Fatmanonice Fatmanonice here but hopefully he won't mind. He's pretty much always been the "head-honcho" of this thread and I feel like he'd be interested in this stuff as it could add to some of his theories, namely that Six would've already been released, in April, by now.

So we all know how the surprise Mario Maker 2 update was announced yesterday out of absolutely nowhere. In that trailer, it had a Super Mario Bros. 2 mushroom for the Super Mario Bros. style, a SMB2 style was something that was highly fan requested from the Mario Maker community. Most of the other stuff in that trailer was similarly of the "high requested" variety. Koopalings, Worldmap Maker, new Powerups. Things people thought wouldn't get into the game but somehow did. Ironically, new game styles was one of the things people DID expect to get into the game, and even though it didn't happen in the end, it seems like that might've not always been the case.

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1252420215767351297

Futhermore, Imran himself, in a resetera thread discussing said Mario Maker 2 update, went on to say that he was "speculating" this and the new Mario Kart Tour update that added some builder costumes to the game would've originally been planned for a larger event during this month that would've focused exclusively on Mario. Interestingly, this backs up some previous claims from NateDrake, who said to expect an April event of some sort before he later backtracked on it and said plans had changed due to COVID complications.

NateDrake then went ahead and backed Imran's statement, probably meaning that the statement itself wasn't really "speculation". I notice that resetera insiders tend to do this a lot when they want to report on rumors they heard but not have said rumors be latched onto by marking them as speculation.

View attachment 269851
View attachment 269853
(as a recap, nate had been hinting at some sort of April announcement for a while, before backing down a few weeks ago when he believed said event was cancelled)
View attachment 269854

I think this could possibly pertain to Smash DLC as this would've been prime time to announce a Mario character, be it Geno, Waluigi, whatever, in a Mario Direct.

A counter argument would be that the first character would not even have been specified yet, but as Fatman clarified, he believes six was originally meant to be an April release which could have put it ahead of this "hypothetical" Mario Direct.

After Nate spilled the beans, Imran seemed to clarify that said announcements in this hypothetical direct have been spread out over time, some delayed

View attachment 269855

Make what you will of this, but I thought it was worth posting. Imran is pretty credible and i'm sure most of us have talked about Nate one point or another.
So maybe originally geno was 6th and he was going to announced in April but CORONA-CHANN make the negotations with square harder so nintendo decided to make Arms 6th in March and Geno 7th at E3? That's my personal Theory
 

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So maybe originally geno was 6th and he was going to announced in April but CORONA-CHANN make the negotations with square harder so nintendo decided to make Arms 6th in March and Geno 7th at E3? That's my personal Theory
I think the argument is that 6 was originally supposed to already be out by now, so Geno would have been revealed as number 7 this week.
 

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I think the argument is that 6 was originally supposed to already be out by now, so Geno would have been revealed as number 7 this week.
Yeah, taking into account that six could've been an April release and out already, a big Mario event or direct sounds like a good time to reveal the next Smash character so it could've been a Mario-themed character, is what I was trying to say.

Or not, they could've waited till E3. But either way, it seems like there at least, at one point in time, was intended to be a big "Mario" focus for this year and i'm curious to know if that extends to Smash as well.
 
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PatPrime

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Alright, so i'm going to bring something to your guys' attention that I found a bit interesting

I'm gonna tag Fatmanonice Fatmanonice here but hopefully he won't mind. He's pretty much always been the "head-honcho" of this thread and I feel like he'd be interested in this stuff as it could add to some of his theories, namely that Six would've already been released, in April, by now.

So we all know how the surprise Mario Maker 2 update was announced yesterday out of absolutely nowhere. In that trailer, it had a Super Mario Bros. 2 mushroom for the Super Mario Bros. style, a SMB2 style was something that was highly fan requested from the Mario Maker community. Most of the other stuff in that trailer was similarly of the "high requested" variety. Koopalings, Worldmap Maker, new Powerups. Things people thought wouldn't get into the game but somehow did. Ironically, new game styles was one of the things people DID expect to get into the game, and even though it didn't happen in the end, it seems like that might've not always been the case.

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1252420215767351297

Futhermore, Imran himself, in a resetera thread discussing said Mario Maker 2 update, went on to say that he was "speculating" this and the new Mario Kart Tour update that added some builder costumes to the game would've originally been planned for a larger event during this month that would've focused exclusively on Mario. Interestingly, this backs up some previous claims from NateDrake, who said to expect an April event of some sort before he later backtracked on it and said plans had changed due to COVID complications.

NateDrake then went ahead and backed Imran's statement, probably meaning that the statement itself wasn't really "speculation". I notice that resetera insiders tend to do this a lot when they want to report on rumors they heard but not have said rumors be latched onto by marking them as speculation.

View attachment 269851
View attachment 269853
(as a recap, nate had been hinting at some sort of April announcement for a while, before backing down a few weeks ago when he believed said event was cancelled)
View attachment 269854

I think this could possibly pertain to Smash DLC as this would've been prime time to announce a Mario character, be it Geno, Waluigi, whatever, in a Mario Direct.

A counter argument would be that the first character would not even have been specified yet, but as Fatman clarified, he believes six was originally meant to be an April release which could have put it ahead of this "hypothetical" Mario Direct.

After Nate spilled the beans, Imran seemed to clarify that said announcements in this hypothetical direct have been spread out over time, some delayed

View attachment 269855

Make what you will of this, but I thought it was worth posting. Imran is pretty credible and i'm sure most of us have talked about Nate one point or another.
If this Mario stuff does have connections to Smash, then Geno and/or Waluigi being announced for it would've been a possibility.

This is just an idea but if 3 characters will get announced in June, then excluding ARMS, what if they were the next two challenger packs being Geno and Crash (or Rayman or Doomguy for my own bias) and Waluigi as a bonus character similar to Pirahna Plant?
 

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You know, I was about to shrug off Trials of Mana as just another "oh ok, that's neat" Spirit event, but woah woah woah, hold the phone.

SQUARE ENIX?

As in, Square "we don't give a jackity **** about Smash" Enix? Now this is something!

We've been told time and time again by everyone, their mothers, siblings, grandparents, great-grandparents, fifth cousins, weird uncles who spend too much time at the bar, dogs, parakeets and goldfish that "oh Geno won't be in, surely Square are too high on their horse to play ball with Sakurai and Nintendo and give him the thumbs up!". But guess what, there they are, greenlighting a Spirit event just out of the blue like that.

Granted, this is isn't a huge new discovery or anything since we already know that Squeenix isn't nearly as draconic as they've been painted as, going by how things went in their meetings with Sakurai about Cloud and Hero, but hey, I'll take what I can get. The argument that "Square Enix wouldn't be open to negotiate with Nintendo" is dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. Let's go Geno!

cacomallow real btw
 
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New Spirit Event, Trials of Mana!

Square? Letting Stuff in Smash? For FREE? What dimension are we living in?
OH SNAP! Well that came out of nowhere! That reminds me, I need to remember to get these when they come out. I already missed the ACNH Spirits, don't want to miss any more.

FREE SQUARE ENIX SPIRITS

DISCARD YOUR HANDS AND DRAW, PEOPLE

THE GAME

HAS

CHANGED
DON'T USE THAT CHINESE CHECKERS LINGO WITH ME, BOY! THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?!
 

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You know, I was about to shrug off Trials of Mana as just another "oh ok, that's neat" Spirit event, but woah woah woah, hold the phone.

SQUARE ENIX?

As in, Square "we don't give a jackity **** about Smash" Enix? Now this is something!

We've been told time and time again by everyone, their mothers, siblings, grandparents, great-grandparents, fifth cousins, weird uncles who spend too much time at the bar, dogs, parakeets and goldfish that "oh Geno won't be in, surely Square are too high on their horse to play ball with Sakurai and Nintendo and give him the thumbs up!". But guess what, there they are, greenlighting a Spirit event just out of the blue like that.

Granted, this is isn't a huge new discovery or anything since we already know that Squeenix isn't nearly as draconic as they've been painted as, going by how things went in their meetings with Sakurai about Cloud and Hero, but hey, I'll take what I can get. The argument that "Square Enix wouldn't be open to negotiate with Nintendo" is dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. Let's go Geno!

cacomallow real btw
This is actually a pretty big hit to the idea that Square forced Nintendo to not bring back the Geno costume with Hero due to their high horse. There's hardly an excuse as to why the costume didn't come back with Hero anymore really.


Anyway though pulls out whiteboard
If we factor in how much I don't want Geno multiplied by the Rogerbase variable, carry the irrelevancy coefficient and square that by the "FF remake shill", that should come out to a 110% chance that Geno is deconfirmed and Sephiroth or Tifa will get in over him inevitably.
So don't worry, Geno is actually still deconfirmed. Cry more, Genobabies B)
 

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You know, I was about to shrug off Trials of Mana as just another "oh ok, that's neat" Spirit event, but woah woah woah, hold the phone.

SQUARE ENIX?

As in, Square "we don't give a jackity **** about Smash" Enix? Now this is something!

We've been told time and time again by everyone, their mothers, siblings, grandparents, great-grandparents, fifth cousins, weird uncles who spend too much time at the bar, dogs, parakeets and goldfish that "oh Geno won't be in, surely Square are too high on their horse to play ball with Sakurai and Nintendo and give him the thumbs up!". But guess what, there they are, greenlighting a Spirit event just out of the blue like that.

Granted, this is isn't a huge new discovery or anything since we already know that Squeenix isn't nearly as draconic as they've been painted as, going by how things went in their meetings with Sakurai about Cloud and Hero, but hey, I'll take what I can get. The argument that "Square Enix wouldn't be open to negotiate with Nintendo" is dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. Let's go Geno!

cacomallow real btw
There's no real surprise in this. If you looked at it as if Square Enix owned everything in their games, sure. But that's just false. If you look back at SSBU's E3 trailer, at the end, in the copyright section, you will see that there's a paragraph under it, with more copyright, which is exclusive to the copyright FFVII has. In a similar way, Dragon Quest also has a lot of copyright. The thing is that Square Enix is all in for their series in Smash, but we have no idea of what the other owners of FFVII think about it, and for DQ, we know that the share holders are not only less in numbers, but that the only one who's really bad is Koichi Sugiyama. For series that are fully owned by SE, like trials of mana, bravely default, the world ends with you, and even tomb raider, SE has full ownership over those, and would be far more leniant on them. In fact, the other 3 SE series that are talked a lot in regard of Smash has shared copyright too, but they would probably be easier to get the ok for Nintendo that FFVII or DQ, since Super Mario RPG is owned by Square and Nintendo (so Nintendo already have half of this one), Nier Automata is partialy owned by Platinium Games (Platinium have a very good relationship with Nintendo, and they already put Bayonneta in Smash), and Kingdom Hearts is owned by a single entity who has a surprisingly good relationship with Nintendo (Disney is often seen as the devil, but they're not worst than the guy who denies war crimes (yes, Koichi Sugiyama is that bad of a person)).

In the end, FFVII an DQ mostly suffer from having extremly complicated copyright, to the point where even the one owned by Disney had easier copyright.

Also, I started writing this on my phone, but posted it by accident, and so I went on my computer to fix it, for those curious about why I posted the begining of it earlier.
 
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Honestly guys, I dont think we are giving Nintendo enough credit when it comes to how much they listen.
not only did they add Banjo, who makes the LEAST sense financially wise out of the 3 Microsoft choices, but also gave Golden Sun the most content for a franchise with no playable character, and that series is dead on the ground!
Nintendo is definitely listening, Geno is IN.
 

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I remember Fatmanonice Fatmanonice brought up a specific premium mii costume plus music that he didn’t want to reveal had been rumored by his sources. Tbh I could totally see a Sephiroth premium costume coming with One Winged Angel being bundled alongside the Smithy, Mallow, and Chocobo costumes. Maybe the Geno costume is there too but if it wasn’t (and honestly who would genuinely care if it was dropped in favor of playable Geno?) having 2 SMRPG and 2 FF costumes for a new SE character seems pretty realistic.
 
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Stingy Enix is dead, long live Share Enix!

Trials of Mana spirits are a definite boost for our guy, in my opinion. Not only does it tell us "Hey, maybe Square are more open for collaboration than we thought!", but it also shows that they can essentially disconfirm big names from their franchises, which leads to the obvious less perceived competition for Geno. I wouldn't be surprised if FF7R gets sprits next, or something like Chrono Trigger, Nier Automata, Tomb Raider or even Kingdom Hearts original characters.

He's gonna be in.
 

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SE spirit event, INTERESTING. At the very least, I feel like this confirms we're getting another SE rep, because it doesn't make sense for SE to give a crap when they haven't prior.

Edit: I wonder if this was "out of the blue" because we were supposed to get an SE rep this week... Geno perhaps to go with those proposed Mario plans? ;)

Most underrated song that actually has lyrics that match the melody. People don't give Gato's theme enough credit.

I remember Fatmanonice Fatmanonice brought up a specific premium mii costume plus music that he didn’t want to reveal had been rumored by his sources. Tbh I could totally see a Sephiroth premium costume coming with One Winged Angel being bundled alongside the Smithy, Mallow, and Chocobo costumes. Maybe the Geno costume is there too but if it wasn’t (and honestly who would genuinely care if it was dropped in favor of playable Geno?) having 2 SMRPG and 2 FF costumes for a new SE character seems pretty realistic.
Would Square really be that receptive to using one of their mOsT iMpOrTaNt ChArAcTeRs like that for a measly costume? It makes me wonder. Considering how hard it was to get Cloud, I don't see getting Sephiroth just for the sake of a costume, unless they (Square) want it in as an ad for FF7R
 
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Would Square really be that receptive to using one of their mOsT iMpOrTaNt ChArAcTeRs like that for a measly costume? It makes me wonder. Considering how hard it was to get Cloud, I don't see getting Sephiroth just for the sake of a costume, unless they (Square) want it in as an ad for FF7R
I mean if Sakurai convinced them to let him have Geno this would still be a way of promoting the remake that likely isn’t coming to Switch anytime soon anyway. Besides they permitted him to be a sackboy costume in LBP over a decade ago. They’re not as protective about their characters appearing as costumes as they are about things like music rights.
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DON'T USE THAT CHINESE CHECKERS LINGO WITH ME, BOY! THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?!
Well, in the layman’s terms, ahem

The claim that Square is stingy with its properties is now null and void. It’s clear from the DQ spirits and now this that they’re just stingy with FF stuff. Therefore, the major obstacle to Geno’s inclusion, Square Enix itself, is no longer an obstacle. Therefore, to make yet another metaphor,

Checkmate.
 

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Still, even if the spirit event is meant to tie into Trials of Mana's release date, the significance of non-FF or DQ spirits getting their own event is huge. It does nothing but bolster the chances of Geno's likelyhood.
 

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On the topic of spirits anyone know when the hell the River City spirits will show up again on the Spirit Board?
Post-launch spirits are usually added back in big content updates so probably not until June.
 
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Trials of Mana spirit event. Although it most certainly is to celebrate the release of the game (on the 24th), it almost feels like if they're starting to put out the red carpet for a certain character. :nifty: Thinking of it now, Rogers video from yesterday talking about the FF content we could be seeing in Smash due to FF7R came quite close (SquareEnix-wise).
 

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Oh look another new release gets spirits and Luigi's Mansion 3, one of the top 10 best selling games on the switch, still has bubcis.
 
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