Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[pinshadow]

How about Nintendo caring for the series and Suda51 as much as they do, to the point of funding TSA themselves and doing the marketing for NMH 3. Any way you shake it there's a lot more to Travis' relationship with Nintendo than you might think.



While that leak does have some ridiculous stuff regarding Smash (Yukari as a second Arsene? Sanae and Kanako as alts/echoes for both? WTF?) I have my own theories on why why the Doujin circle leak has a stronger tie to the potential for Reimu in Smash. But it would take me too long to type for my schedule today and it really isn't appropriate for the Geno thread. I think later today I'll post my theory in the Reimu thread.

But other than that leak, I think Reimu is likely because of what we've been getting with the indie series in Smash: Shovel Knight, Shantae, Undertale, Cuphead, and Warframe are all very recent indies that have made some sort of big impact. I don't think this seals the fate for Reimu because again, those are all recent. The last pass and, by extent, several of Smash Ultimate's previous pick had a strong focus on history.

- Belmonts in their classic design as opposed to the redesigns or timeskip appearances
- Terry Bogard coming with pieces of everything SNK has made
- Eleven & Co. all having ties to significant points in Dragon Quest's history
- ****ing Banjo

So an indie being a Fighter would have to lie on one with much more significant history than the previous characters, and the only two that fit that bill are Reimu and Quote. Not only is Reimu much easier to potentially negotiate due to ZUN being so open on the project being used by others, but **** Nicalis.



Capcom getting a new rep in this pass has been in the talks among insiders, which makes a lot of sense given how successful and active they've been lately, and if it's gonna be anyone Dante is really the only pick.

- Phoenix Wright's only true outing in battle was Mahvel 3, and his moves from there have carried over into every other crossover since and we know Sakurai doesn't like using previous crossover material to make a whole moveset.
- Monster Hunter devs have talked about how Rathalos is essentially the face of the series. It's likely that's all the MH content we'll get in Smash considering the monsters are the most important part of the series.
- RIP Jill

As for Dante on his own

- Itsuno pretty much said during the time for Pass 2 to start development, "If fans want Dante in Smash, they should ask for DMC on Switch first." No less than a few months later, DMC1 coming to the Switch was announced and we've been getting every DMC on the platform since.
- Compared to everyone else from Capcom, Dante has much more crossover prowess, even before Smash. SMT, Viewtiful Joe, Mahvel, PlayStation All-Stars (ignoring the fact that it's Donte), Breath of Fire, and more, have always had Dante as a main face for their crossover lineup. Smash would not only continue that trend, but would also mark Dante's first time ever officially facing off against Bayonetta, which would be a much bigger moment than you might think.




I'll give you that partly, because I should've put Hayabusa there in place of Lloyd. Heihahci is a general placeholder for Bandai Namco in general, so it could be either him or Lloyd (hell, maybe even KOS-MOS) but I do have my reasons for Mr. Mishima.

First and foremost, Smash is a crossover game and Heihachi has always been Bandai Namco's king of crossovers. Soul Calibur, 3 different tennis games, Pac-Man Fever, PlayStation All-Stars, Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Abyss, Project X Zone, Bamco's weird old baseball games, Street Fighter X Tekken, KOF All Stars, all feature Heihachi as the main Tekken representative for these crossovers.
Second, it seems like after Symphonia ended, Bandai Namco may want to give Lloyd a bit of a retirement. He hasn't had a major role in any Tales game since Asteria. Heihachi, meanwhile, has still been going strong and is still likely to have an important role in Tekken even with his supposed death in Tekken 7.

Man, I feel like this post is gonna come back to haunt me.

Ok just two random things here

• Since when is Warframe considered indie, like, at all? I see people keep saying that, and its like, not really? Digital Extremes was founded in 1993, they co-created Unreal, they have 300 employees, they're owned by a Chinese company now anyway. They self published Warframe but it's not like that makes them indie, would you consider Platinum Games upcoming Project G.G an indie game because it's their first attempt at a self-published game?
• Nintendo didn't fund TSA, they distributed it outside of Japan, which is still actually really good for Travis and apparently they are also doing that for No More Heroes 3 and I did not know this so huh. Still makes me wonder why Nintendo isn't publishing in the first-place though.

As for Reimu, the fact that the three most popular indie requests, Shovel Knight, Shantae, and Sans (who was always more of a meme than anything else) weren't able to get in speaks volumes. I just don't see Nintendo not putting any of them in and then saying "ok, let's put in Reimu instead".

 

[Sigran101]

...182 days. https://twitter.com/DaysSinceDirect/status/1235233742995828737 Good lord, Nintendo.

Nintendo has one more week to put out a direct before we storm their headquarters! Who's with me?

 

[Dukefire]

Ok just two random things here

• Since when is Warframe considered indie, like, at all? I see people keep saying that, and its like, not really? Digital Extremes was founded in 1993, they co-created Unreal, they have 300 employees, they're own by a Chinese company now anyway. They self published Warframe but it's not like that makes them indie, would you consider Platinum Games upcoming Project G.G an indie game because it's their first attempt at a self-published game?
• Nintendo didn't fund TSA, they distributed it outside of Japan, which is still actually really good for Travis and apparently they are also doing that for No More Heroes 3 and I did not know this so huh. Still makes me wonder why Nintendo isn't publishing in the first-place though.

As for Reimu, the fact is that the three most popular indie requests, Shovel Knight, Shantae, and Sans (who was always more of a meme than anything else) weren't able to get in speaks volumes. I just don't see Nintendo not putting any of them in and then saying "ok, let's put in Reimu instead".

For the Indie characters chances to being a fighter. I still see it as a possibility since the slots are still open and no official deconfirmation yet.

Of course, how you see it is up to everyone's opinions.

 

[Firox]

Nintendo has one more week to put out a direct before we storm their headquarters! Who's with me?

Just remember to Naruto-run between the ninja security guards.

As for Reimu, the fact is that the three most popular indie requests, Shovel Knight, Shantae, and Sans (who was always more of a meme than anything else) weren't able to get in speaks volumes. I just don't see Nintendo not putting any of them in and then saying "ok, let's put in Reimu instead".

For the Indie characters chances to being a fighter. I still see it as a possibility since the slots are still open and no official deconfirmation yet.

Of course, how you see it is up to everyone's opinions.

Gotta say, pinshadow's logic is pretty solid here. Could we still end up with an indie character? Maybe. Is it probable? No. Not even close. I'd personally say less than 1% chance, but that's just me. I think if anyone is going to open the floodgates for indies at this point, it's going to be Shantae, not Reimu. Coincidentally, she would also shatter the "Spirits deconfirm" argument at the same time as well.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Well, Sabi's last dying leak was a Nindies on the 12th so, all things considered, we're at worst two weeks off. If Sabi was wrong, that means a Direct next week which is even better.

 

[zferolie]

So I want to address this but I'm leaving to run errands and I can't.

The best I can do right now is that indies seem to be getting the best recognition that can be done which is a really good costume and a music track. this is because the indie fanbase loves lots of characters who all come from different and unique games and there is no single character they support under a united banner. Considering this and the fact that the whole Vol 2 cannot be indie characters and will not be such, it's best to have indies represented outside of characters. Thus, Reimu would at best be a costume with a music track. Shovel Knight is the exception as not only was he base game but he was at one time kind of the united indie banner character, and the best he got was Assist Trophy. The idea of an indie character being made playable is basically dead.

I still argue we will get 1 indie character at least as fully playable. Its going to be reimu, shantae, or quote, MAYBE Hornet.

Reimu because she is the biggest doujin character by far in japan, has massive history and influence in the japanese gaming scene.

Shantae because she is the oldest non japanese indie character, has a long history with nintendo, and wayforward and nintendo are already close.

Quote because cave story is considered the grandaddy for most indie games.

Hornet because ninte do is pushing the new hollow knight game hard, and Hornet is a lot more interesting character and playstyle wise then knight

 

[MattX20]

Well, Sabi's last dying leak was a Nindies on the 12th so, all things considered, we're at worst two weeks off. If Sabi was wrong, that means a Direct next week which is even better.

That's the best news we've had in a good while.

 

[pinshadow]

Well, Sabi's last dying leak was a Nindies on the 12th so, all things considered, we're at worst two weeks off. If Sabi was wrong, that means a Direct next week which is even better.

You got a screencap of that? I just remember him saying it was in March.

 

[CannonStreak]

Nintendo has one more week to put out a direct before we storm their headquarters! Who's with me?

Or we could write them a friendly letter asking why the delay.

But seriously, we should wait. I have a feeling it will come next week.

 

[Heoj]

- Phoenix Wright's only true outing in battle was Mahvel 3, and his moves from there have carried over into every other crossover since and we know Sakurai doesn't like using previous crossover material to make a whole moveset.

This might be a nitpick but, you do realise that sakurai doesnt have to copy paste phoenixs mvc3 moveset into smash right, he can... you know... make his own from the ground up. Personally in terms of a new capcom rep i feel like phoenix is up there with dante and amaterasu, though i might just be biased.
Anyway, uhhhh i Geno for smash

 

[Nicnac]

**** Nicalis.

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Nicalis?

 

[TheCJBrine]

So I want to address this but I'm leaving to run errands and I can't.

The best I can do right now is that indies seem to be getting the best recognition that can be done which is a really good costume and a music track. this is because the indie fanbase loves lots of characters who all come from different and unique games and there is no single character they support under a united banner. Considering this and the fact that the whole Vol 2 cannot be indie characters and will not be such, it's best to have indies represented outside of characters. Thus, Reimu would at best be a costume with a music track. Shovel Knight is the exception as not only was he base game but he was at one time kind of the united indie banner character, and the best he got was Assist Trophy. The idea of an indie character being made playable is basically dead.

I really don't understand why indies are seen as competition for each other in Smash to the point where they're treated as if they're all part of a single company or franchise...they're all still unique games from different parties, they're only indie because said parties are small, there's no collective indie fanbase (well except for people who like them all because they're small I guess, honestly I could personally care less, I just like the games and there are some indies I haven't played nor care about (though some I'm interested in), which I guess is why I don't get why they're seen as competing for a single slot nor how the different fanbases somehow make it unlikely for one to get a slot).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Nicalis?

The CEO said racist things and also has a reputation for ghosting his clients. Also didn’t give Pixel credit for Cave Story

 

[MattX20]

Hmm...anyone else struggling to come up with new questions or topics related to Geno?

 

[axel_]

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Nicalis?

Basically stealing Cave Story from its creator and flaunting it as if it belongs to them without the original creators getting recognition or a single dime, and hard evidence of ghosting partners and discrimination towards employees, and on several instances too. And we barely have any idea of how long Nicalis has been doing this.

They've been muting any sort of backlash on their tweets as well as mentions of Studio Pixel, the true creators of Cave Story. Studio Pixel also made a game called "Kero Blaster" which is based on their experience working with Nicalis.

TL;DR they're unprofessionals with a really scummy track record.

 

[ForsakenM]

I really don't understand why indies are seen as competition for each other in Smash to the point where they're treated as if they're all part of a single company or franchise...they're all still unique games from different parties, they're only indie because said parties are small, there's no collective indie fanbase (well except for people who like them all because they're small I guess, honestly I could personally care less, I just like the games and there are some indies I haven't played nor care about (though some I'm interested in), which I guess is why I don't get why they're seen as competing for a single slot and the different fanbases somehow make it unlikely for one to get a slot).

I actually have a little time, so I can answer this.

The answer is simple: Which indie character do you pick? All biases aside, as Sakurai and Co. and Nintendo, which one do yo pick?

Shovel Knight was at one point the most favored indie pick, and he didn't get to be playable.

Sans is a popular character from a game Japan has gone crazy over despite most of us moving on now (thank god for that), and he's not playable.

Cuphead took the world by storm and was loved for it's art direction and old-school game play, and he's not playable.

These were all big names, and they didn't make it. So now, you have names like Reimu, Quote, Shantae, The Knight and such. Makes makes them any more likely?

Nothing.

Which one do you pick to be playable over the others? Welp, the one that would please the most people, right? But which one IS that?

Shovel Knight being playable would have solved the issue from the start, but now the indie fans are fractured between their most wanted.

If you pick Hat Kid, you piss off Madeline fans. If you pick Madeline, you piss off Gunvolt fans. Do you see the issue here?

You can't pick just one of these characters as they aren't big enough to please a majority of the indie fans. Thus, you would need to have more than one playable, and that's never happening because there are too many big name picks that need to be included before we start featuring multiple indie reps. Or, we could stick with the formula we have, which is badass costumes with music. Makes sense to me.

Smash is not about indie characters. If you want a fighting game with indie characters, go play an indie fighting game that features those characters.

 

[Lord Woomy]

Just reminding you all that he fainted because he was trying a low carb diet and didn’t hydrate enough when he tried working out at the gym. It had nothing to do with Smash.

that being said, he should try to take care of himself better, whether or not he’s actively working on Smash

I can personally confirm stuff about physical activity and not being hydrated enough for it. Back in 2018, I was in Boston walking the Freedom Trail (so a lot of physical activity in that regard) and had not yet had anything to drink or eat that morning. Began feeling lightheaded, nauseous and came near to passing out as well, my vision was literally fading (Looked kinda like how things do if you press your hands on your eyes when they're closed and when you open them again everything looks weird) could barely even stand up. Thankfully, I was able to get water and food (though, I don't think the carbs mattered much as my blood sugar was fine). Keep in mind, this was towards the beginning of my day of just walking and that still almost made me pass out so I could only imagine what a full on work out would do.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I actually have a little time, so I can answer this.

The answer is simple: Which indie character do you pick? All biases aside, as Sakurai and Co. and Nintendo, which one do yo pick?

Shovel Knight was at one point the most favored indie pick, and he didn't get to be playable.

Sans is a popular character from a game Japan has gone crazy over despite most of us moving on now (thank god for that), and he's not playable.

Cuphead took the world by storm and was loved for it's art direction and old-school game play, and he's not playable.

These were all big names, and they didn't make it. So now, you have names like Reimu, Quote, Shantae, The Knight and such. Makes makes them any more likely?

Nothing.

Which one do you pick to be playable over the others? Welp, the one that would please the most people, right? But which one IS that?

Shovel Knight being playable would have solved the issue from the start, but now the indie fans are fractured between their most wanted.

If you pick Hat Kid, you piss off Madeline fans. If you pick Madeline, you piss off Gunvolt fans. Do you see the issue here?

You can't pick just one of these characters as they aren't big enough to please a majority of the indie fans. Thus, you would need to have more than one playable, and that's never happening because there are too many big name picks that need to be included before we start featuring multiple indie reps. Or, we could stick with the formula we have, which is badass costumes with music. Makes sense to me.

Smash is not about indie characters. If you want a fighting game with indie characters, go play an indie fighting game that features those characters.

A lot of different indie games are popular, I don't get why it matters that they're indies. I guess because the dev teams are smaller...but they could still choose more than one if they wanted to, and there could be different reasons they have for putting some in unplayable roles (so a less-popular one could still be chosen). I also don't see why it matters if Hat Kid or Madeline or whoever would tick another fanbase off, they're not the same franchises and even if they were, it wouldn't be any different than Geno or Steve or Skull Kid ticking off some other people even those who wanted characters from other franchises.

I don't think any indie characters are likely, but I really don't understand why people always treat 'em like they're all under one company's umbrella.

 

[JarBear]

Nintendo has one more week to put out a direct before we storm their headquarters! Who's with me?

Well ... it's about an hour drive for me, so why not!



(Trigger time for our Professor.)

 

[MattX20]

Well ... it's about an hour drive for me, so why not!


(Trigger time for our Professor.)

Don't forget to write!

 

[Franco Geno]

Hmm...anyone else struggling to come up with new questions or topics related to Geno?

Same, i have nothing to contribute to the conversation except this:

 

[zferolie]

A lot of different indie games are popular, I don't get why it matters that they're indies. I guess because the dev teams are smaller...but they could still choose more than one if they wanted to, and there could be different reasons they have for putting some in unplayable roles (so a less-popular one could still be chosen). I also don't see why it matters if Hat Kid or Madeline or whoever would tick another fanbase off, they're not the same franchises and even if they were, it wouldn't be any different than Geno or Steve or Skull Kid ticking off some other people even those who wanted characters from other franchises.

I don't think any indie characters are likely, but I really don't understand why people always treat 'em like they're all under one company's umbrella.

There just seems to be a hate for indie characters by the general smash fan base. Its quite sad and frustrating

 

[MattX20]

There just seems to be a hate for indie characters by the general smash fan base. Its quite sad and frustrating

I've been supporting Shantae since I played all her games for the first time in 2015 and voted for her during the ballot. Geno may be my most wanted character, but that doesn't mean I won't try to support others

 

[Fatmanonice]

You got a screencap of that? I just remember him saying it was in March.

Well, apparently Sabi straight up nuked his Twitter account so I guess that's an immediate dead end...

https://mobile.twitter.com/New_WabiSabi?

 

[MattX20]

So Fatmanonice and the rest of the crew, what have you guys been doing to stave off the boredom for the supposed general direct?

 

[zferolie]

I've been supporting Shantae since I played all her games for the first time in 2015 and voted for her during the ballot. Geno may be my most wanted character, but that doesn't mean I won't try to support others

Yeah glad to see other shantae fans, but she has to also fight against those dumb spirits deconfirm people

Well, apparently Sabi straight up nuked his Twitter account so I guess that's an immediate dead end...

https://mobile.twitter.com/New_WabiSabi?

I know they said they were closing it for a bit, but did they close it again? As for the nindies direct all they said it was march.

Though correct me if i am wrong but has a nindies direct ever been leaked that early?

 

[QQS]

The good thing is that we don’t have to wait any longer. #76 is happening in March; and #77 in June. So for me Geno is the big opening reveal of FP2 (76) or the big cake at E3 (77). I think those two numbers fit perfectly for Crash & Geno. So if it’s not now (March) we don’t have to wait any longer than June for a Geno’s reveal. I have been waiting Geno since I played him in 1996 so I could wait 3 months more.

The thing is, Geno perfectly can happen in this next Direct; but if he doesn’t, and Crash/Hayabusa/Lloyd/Heihachi/Waluigi/Dante/Doom or Shovel Knight happen instead, he is happening 100% after #76. So I won’t be desperate if Nintendo decides to save him for E3 rather than March (it would be nice also, for the “7” fit).

On the other hand, Cloud didn’t need an E3 so there aren’t rules. Anything is legal. Maybe a double reveal for Waluigi 76 and Geno 77 in this potential March direct; and then they can save Crash 78 for E3, and finally don’t reveal anything else until January 2021; so we would have half of the Pass revealed, totally plausible for me. Waluigi and Geno double reveal in a big CGI trailer with Rosalina/Kirby/Mario/Bowser/Peach/Galeem stuff, would be totally fan service and epic stuff, also celebrating the 24° anniversary of SMRPG and Mar10 in the next week. This is our Smash, as Sakurai said so. Fans are being considered and we have so much evidence of that.

Anyway, I’m rooting for the idea of one single reveal at March and probably one (at least) or two more at E3. Anything can happen, in any order.

The only thing for sure and they already acknowledge it, is that fans want GENO for SMASH. It’s just a matter of weeks to see that reveal, trust me.

GENO REPAIRS THE STAR ROAD!

 

[MattX20]

The good thing is that we don’t have to wait any longer. #76 is happening in March; and #77 in June. So for me Geno is the big opening reveal of FP2 (76) or the big cake at E3 (77). I think those two numbers fit perfectly for Crash & Geno. So if it’s not now (March) we don’t have to wait any longer than June for a Geno’s reveal. I have been waiting Geno since I played him in 1996 so I could wait 3 months more.

The thing is, Geno perfectly can happen in this next Direct; but if he doesn’t, and Crash/Hayabusa/Lloyd/Heihachi/Waluigi/Dante/Doom or Shovel Knight happen instead, he is happening 100% after #76. So I won’t be desperate if Nintendo decides to save him for E3 rather than March (it would be nice also, for the “7” fit).

On the other hand, Cloud didn’t need an E3 so there aren’t rules. Anything is legal. Maybe a double reveal for Waluigi 76 and Geno 77 in this potential March direct; and then they can save Crash 78 for E3, and finally don’t reveal anything else until January 2021; so we would have half of the Pass revealed, totally plausible for me. Waluigi and Geno double reveal in a big CGI trailer with Rosalina/Kirby/Mario/Bowser/Peach/Galeem stuff, would be totally fan service and epic stuff, also celebrating the 24° anniversary of SMRPG and Mar10 in the next week. This is our Smash, as Sakurai said so. Fans are being considered and we have so much evidence of that.

Anyway, I’m rooting for the idea of one single reveal at March and probably one (at least) or two more at E3. Anything can happen, in any order.

The only thing for sure and they already acknowledge it, is that fans want GENO for SMASH. It’s just a matter of weeks to see that reveal, trust me.


GENO REPAIRS THE STAR ROAD!

I really hope so

 

[Droodle]

I actually have a little time, so I can answer this.

The answer is simple: Which indie character do you pick? All biases aside, as Sakurai and Co. and Nintendo, which one do yo pick?

Shovel Knight was at one point the most favored indie pick, and he didn't get to be playable.

Sans is a popular character from a game Japan has gone crazy over despite most of us moving on now (thank god for that), and he's not playable.

Cuphead took the world by storm and was loved for it's art direction and old-school game play, and he's not playable.

These were all big names, and they didn't make it. So now, you have names like Reimu, Quote, Shantae, The Knight and such. Makes makes them any more likely?

Nothing.

Which one do you pick to be playable over the others? Welp, the one that would please the most people, right? But which one IS that?

Shovel Knight being playable would have solved the issue from the start, but now the indie fans are fractured between their most wanted.

If you pick Hat Kid, you piss off Madeline fans. If you pick Madeline, you piss off Gunvolt fans. Do you see the issue here?

You can't pick just one of these characters as they aren't big enough to please a majority of the indie fans. Thus, you would need to have more than one playable, and that's never happening because there are too many big name picks that need to be included before we start featuring multiple indie reps. Or, we could stick with the formula we have, which is badass costumes with music. Makes sense to me.

Smash is not about indie characters. If you want a fighting game with indie characters, go play an indie fighting game that features those characters.

Hi, I know I said I wouldn't post here until Geno got confirmed (or deconfirmed), but this is such a garbage argument that I had to point it out.

If "other bigger indie fanbases would be salty" is your best argument, then it may as well not exist. In terms of Smash, fanbases get upset all the time, because "their character didn't get in". It has happened to big fanbases like Isaac and Bandana Dee, as well as smaller fanbases like Chorus Kids.

If Reimu or Quote got confirmed, the other indie fanbases would be over it in a week like 99% of other fanbases. It wouldn't make them stop supporting their own favorites either, because it's completely possible we see multiple indie characters as DLC (it is unlikely but still completely possible).

And besides we know history is also plenty important in terms of who gets in Smash. Terry got in because of his history as an FG icon. Reimu is one of the first (and still active) indie characters, Touhou has inspired tons of other indie games including Undertale. She is also huge in Japan too.

Quote is arguably the first indie character that became really popular in the West. He also inspired a ton of other indie hits.

So while their games may not have been as big as Undertale, Shovel Knight, or Cuphead. They definitely have had enough of a history and impact to warrant some consideration.

Reimu in particular has gotten decently big in terms of Smash popularity recently. So the popularity argument doesn't make sense anymore (in terms of Smash).

Your points could directly be applied AGAINST Geno too. Why put him in when the fanbases for Sephiroth, 2B, Sora, Noctus, Terra, etc; would be upset. All those games/series are much bigger then SMRPG so why should Geno get in first? That's how much of a terrible argument it is.

If you can't argue back feel free to put me on ignore. Otherwise send me a PM because I don't want to derail the thread.

Also if Geno gets in, it would be great if he came with costumes that reference Black Mage and White Mage from FF.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm not sure why we would have another Nindies presentation when we just had a very underwhelming one in December.

So Fatmanonice and the rest of the crew, what have you guys been doing to stave off the boredom for the supposed general direct?

****posting, mostly. Smash and OSRS distract from any need for new information that the ****posting fails to cover.

 

[StarLight42]

Just reminding you all that he fainted because he was trying a low carb diet and didn’t hydrate enough when he tried working out at the gym. It had nothing to do with Smash.

that being said, he should try to take care of himself better, whether or not he’s actively working on Smash

This.

Well, Sabi's last dying leak was a Nindies on the 12th so, all things considered, we're at worst two weeks off. If Sabi was wrong, that means a Direct next week which is even better.

Are you sure it was Nindies on 12th and not just Nindies Mid March? Cause if its actually the 12th thats really bad sounding for us. They’re never done directs past the first two weeks of the month and they’ve also never done directs the same week as Nindies.

 

[Franco Geno]

Also if Geno gets in, it would be great if he came with costumes that reference Black Mage and White Mage from FF.

This is a great idea, i feel stupid for not thinking about this

 

[skydogc]

I'm not sure why we would have another Nindies presentation when we just had a very underwhelming one in December.


****posting, mostly. Smash and OSRS distract from any need for new information that the ****posting fails to cover.

Ah, a fellow man of culture I see.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

Well, apparently Sabi straight up nuked his Twitter account so I guess that's an immediate dead end...

https://mobile.twitter.com/New_WabiSabi?

Sabi’s account still exists, just under a different @. https://mobile.twitter.com/SabiWabii

It is interesting however that most Nintendo/Smash related tweets that he/she made in the past are now deleted, so maybe they really got into hot water with Nintendo again and pulled out fast.

 

[Datboigeno]

Even if it's just another social media post acknowledging the anniversary it'd be really nice to see Nintendo to do something/anything SMRPG related on the 9th. Even if they don't it'd be cool if people could try to get SMRPG24 or GenoforSmash trending by posting art or their memories of playing the game and what it means to them.

 

[StarLight42]

Ok he didn’t say 12th specifically, which is good for us. Nindies next week would honestly be pretty bad as it would require two patterns to be broken for A direct to happen this month.

NateDrake from resetera is also pretty credible and said this regarding a Direct this month.

 

[Polarthief]

Even if it's just another social media post acknowledging the anniversary it'd be really nice to see Nintendo to do something/anything SMRPG related on the 9th. Even if they don't it'd be cool if people could try to get SMRPG24 or GenoforSmash trending by posting art or their memories of playing the game and what it means to them.

I don't think they did anything last year, but they did for the 22nd anniversary back in 2018. I'd laugh if that was a hint that we'd see him 2-3 years later

NateDrake from resetera is also pretty credible and said this regarding a Direct this month.

I mean at this point it's late as hell and we know *NOTHING* about this year besides Animal Crossing (and Xenoblade 1 remaster with an unknown 2020 release date), but wasn't Zippo pretty dang credible too? (I don't actually know, people were saying that IIRC, and I hope he's still right about PM3 and stuff)

Just saying we can't really believe anyone for sure anymore, and hopefully that Nindies thing is the 3rd week because ffs we need a direct next week since it's clearly not happening this week. My money's once again back on the 10th-12th, unless Geno is being revealed, in which case, possibly the 9th? But I doubt it cuz Monday.

 

[Nicnac]

So Fatmanonice and the rest of the crew, what have you guys been doing to stave off the boredom for the supposed general direct?

Gaming and studying for exams in late April. I've played some Resident Evil, some Devil May Cry, and Halo: CE literally just dropped on Steam, so I've been playing that with friends. When Doom Eternal and RE3make come out I'll jump on those, too. I also regularly check in on the thread to see if there's any news.

 

[SpiritOfRuin]

The good thing is that we don’t have to wait any longer. #76 is happening in March; and #77 in June. So for me Geno is the big opening reveal of FP2 (76) or the big cake at E3 (77). I think those two numbers fit perfectly for Crash & Geno. So if it’s not now (March) we don’t have to wait any longer than June for a Geno’s reveal. I have been waiting Geno since I played him in 1996 so I could wait 3 months more.

The thing is, Geno perfectly can happen in this next Direct; but if he doesn’t, and Crash/Hayabusa/Lloyd/Heihachi/Waluigi/Dante/Doom or Shovel Knight happen instead, he is happening 100% after #76. So I won’t be desperate if Nintendo decides to save him for E3 rather than March (it would be nice also, for the “7” fit).

On the other hand, Cloud didn’t need an E3 so there aren’t rules. Anything is legal. Maybe a double reveal for Waluigi 76 and Geno 77 in this potential March direct; and then they can save Crash 78 for E3, and finally don’t reveal anything else until January 2021; so we would have half of the Pass revealed, totally plausible for me. Waluigi and Geno double reveal in a big CGI trailer with Rosalina/Kirby/Mario/Bowser/Peach/Galeem stuff, would be totally fan service and epic stuff, also celebrating the 24° anniversary of SMRPG and Mar10 in the next week. This is our Smash, as Sakurai said so. Fans are being considered and we have so much evidence of that.

Anyway, I’m rooting for the idea of one single reveal at March and probably one (at least) or two more at E3. Anything can happen, in any order.

The only thing for sure and they already acknowledge it, is that fans want GENO for SMASH. It’s just a matter of weeks to see that reveal, trust me.

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Man I wish I could share y'all's optimism. There is so much confidence in the rumored names floating around, but I just feel like because of all the attention those names are getting we are really not looking where we should be looking (not that I have any idea where that would be). Like Ryu H had so much confidence in him and then I guess he could still be coming but where is he? Do I think Geno is likely? Yes but more of like a 51/49 scenario of likeliness. I have no idea what some of the evidence for Geno would really mean if he were not coming as a premium costume or playable fighter, but rarely in speculation do we get answers for these things so I guess that's what makes me so hesitant.

 

[MattX20]

Yeah glad to see other shantae fans, but she has to also fight against those dumb spirits deconfirm people


I know they said they were closing it for a bit, but did they close it again? As for the nindies direct all they said it was march.

Though correct me if i am wrong but has a nindies direct ever been leaked that early?

Geno and Shantae have the whole spirits thing, but given both were in the base game, they have a better chance than spirit board event ones