Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Ray102396]

June 1st 2015 was a Direct on a Monday...it could happen, but not likely.

EDIT: Was just curious if we ever got one on a Friday.

Just took a look through the list of every direct, the only notable Friday ones seem to be indie stuff.

 

[Midget Master]

In regards to the assist trophy discussion - Just give me both. Waluigi and Isaac are even both from Camelot, after all. It's meant to be.

Would make sense, too. Waluigi is the way more recognizable character and people are clamoring for him NOW. Whereas Isaac would be the pick for the old school faithful.

 

[T2by4]

Waluigi/Geno fans when they both get confirmed and start watching all the haters backtrack.

4chan is surpisingly chill with geno from what I've experienced, but keep an eye on reddit, gamefaqs, reeesetera, and any other place with tons of detractors. I got a whole folder waiting in anticipation for our glorious day.

 

[Griselda]

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Waluigi/Geno fans when they both get confirmed and start watching all the haters backtrack.

4chan is surpisingly chill with geno from what I've experienced, but keep an eye on reddit, gamefaqs, reeesetera, and any other place with tons of detractors. I got a whole folder waiting in anticipation for our glorious day.

..I mean, considering this image implies that we're gonna swallow a fork and eventually our houses get destroyed..

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Totally legit leak, guys

 

[OffBi]

My experience with mario royale

 

[YsDisciple]

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Totally legit leak, guys

Wait... is this a troll... or is this... legit?!

 

[TipperTheScales]

Wait... is this a troll... or is this... legit?!

It's a photoshop of an image that reportedly had Hugo Martin say 'not at this stage' to the question. Most people aren't taking too much stock into it since why would someone of such seniority and clout casually respond to a nobody on a mobile messaging service

 

[RetrogamerMax]

That reminds me. Ridley was the meme pick before he got in, waluigi too. If both waluigi and geno got in, who would be the next big meme character?

I'd wager... Bandanna Waddle Dee?
We're running out of fan requests fast, Ultimate is doing a good job delivering them.

Dee or Shantae because only sick loving hentai freaks only like the half-genie hero and Bandana Dee is just a topical Waddle Dee .

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Waluigi/Geno fans when they both get confirmed and start watching all the haters backtrack.

4chan is surpisingly chill with geno from what I've experienced, but keep an eye on reddit, gamefaqs, reeesetera, and any other place with tons of detractors. I got a whole folder waiting in anticipation for our glorious day.

The haters backtracked when Ridley, K. Rool, and Banjo & Kazooie all got in and they will do it again when Geno, Waluigi, or any other highly requested characters get in. I've seen it before, I remember some people on Reddit and Youtube telling me "K. Rool would just be a Bowser Echo." Only to turn around and say "K. Rool is so unique! I always wanted him!" Lol! All the Geno haters will be kissing his feet when he get's in.

 

[Datboigeno]

Wait... is this a troll... or is this... legit?!

A legit presentation of solidarity which is still very cool. We really do need a Geno/Doomslayer dual reveal trailer.

 

[MisterMike]

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Waluigi/Geno fans when they both get confirmed and start watching all the haters backtrack.

4chan is surpisingly chill with geno from what I've experienced, but keep an eye on reddit, gamefaqs, reeesetera, and any other place with tons of detractors. I got a whole folder waiting in anticipation for our glorious day.

I've also got a folder ready to go, filled entirely with posts from twitter. I've tried to only keep the more in-depth posts ie. the ones that go beyond "Geno won't be in Smash" and that's it.
... or were you referring to reaction images?

 

[StarBot]

reeesetera

How to automatically tell someone isn't being genuine in a post

I know it's cool to circlejerk and make fun of Era for some reason, but you do realize it's probably the second most biggest Geno supporter website next to this website

You say 4chan is cool with him, but I honestly see the opposite, mostly because of you guys

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How to automatically tell someone isn't being genuine in a post

I know it's cool to circlejerk and make fun of Era for some reason, but you do realize it's probably the second most biggest Geno supporter website next to this website

You say 4chan is cool with him, but I honestly see the opposite, mostly because of you guys

They are just the most cringe of places

 

[RetrogamerMax]

How to automatically tell someone isn't being genuine in a post

I know it's cool to circlejerk and make fun of Era for some reason, but you do realize it's probably the second most biggest Geno supporter website next to this website

You say 4chan is cool with him, but I honestly see the opposite, mostly because of you guys

I don't know how ResetEra treats Geno, but you're dead right about 4chan not giving two ***** for Geno. At 4chan, they make fun of Geno and us over here at Smashboards that support him. It's full of Geno haters over there.

 

[StarBot]

Feels like there's just so much more going on for DOOM than Elder Scrolls right now to warrant an inclusion into Smash.

Can someone explain me why this is, (condersing how Elder Scrolls is popular in Japan compared to DOOM)

Other then the "leak" and "I just personally care for DOOM more"

 

[LDGno97]

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Totally legit leak, guys

Gracias Hugo!

 

[EricTheGamerman]

A legit presentation of solidarity which is still very cool. We really do need a Geno/Doomslayer dual reveal trailer.

Nah, give them their own unique trailers so we get more CGI Smash goodness (I'd also kind of hate how much it would feel like robbing both of them of their own cool specific trailers to shoehorn the other in).

They are just the most cringe of places

Regardless of your opinion, SmashERA Is genuinely one of the more supportive places for Geno (Keep in mind I'm saying the "Smash" posting on Era and not the general population since that is an important distinction for Geno) and even when I've seen less support, SmashERA also remains mostly respectful about him. There's no reason to actively **** on a place that has shown support and respect for Geno at many different points (it's also very much like our Newcomer thread, it's more than Geno so of course there isn't some homogenized grand support there either).

Also, 4chan, GameFAQs, and any number of Discords exist that are much, much worse on a cringe level. I understand how politically people may not agree with much of ResetERA's leanings, but for the most part there's a lot of genuine good conversation and they try to keep the community fairly clean and as respectful as possible. ERA is really not that bad and you can have great conversations about a ton of different video games and related news.

 

[Fatmanonice]

So, after three raids, two bans, several of my friends and confidants being publicly dragged for merely associating with me, tons of death threats, mountains of hate mail, questions and pings on a daily basis across three platforms, countless arguments, and, la creme de la creme of bull****, my parents getting a doxx threat... all over video game rumors... all over the course of a SINGLE month... the Geno essay is done... 12 pages... 5,500 words... All I need to do now is proofread it and make sure I didn't say anything extraordinary dumb because, I'll level with you all, most of this essay was written while I was either burned out on all the drama, trying to not let anger spill over into my writing, dogass tired, or after downing absurd amounts of coffee... My Christmas vacation ends tomorrow and, joy of joys, I'm getting sick... Despite this, I wanted to keep my promise and I'm happy to say that the ****ing thing is ****ing done (so quit messaging me at 3 in the morning asking me how far I am on it, wouldja?). Thank you for your patience, it should be up later today. As always, the Geno fanbase has kind of been my "online home" pretty much my whole adult life so this essay, perhaps the last I'll write before Geno's addition, means a lot to me and I hope you all have fun reading it, whether you believe my theories and speculation or not. Still, comrades, it's done and hopefully it's my last Geno speculation essay ever.

 

[CroonerMike]

but for the most part there's a lot of genuine good conversation and they try to keep the community fairly clean and as respectful as possible. ERA is really not that bad and you can have great conversations about a ton of different video games and related news.

That is such a bold faced lie if I ever read one. They are the single most closed minded individuals I’ve ever had the pleasure to share a conversation with. At least with 4chan, they don’t try and hide the fact they are trash individuals.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

That is such a bold faced lie if I ever read one. They are the single most closed minded individuals I’ve ever had the pleasure to share a conversation with. At least with 4chan, they don’t try and hide the fact they are trash individuals.

I've never had any issues having varied conversations with people on ERA about a variety of topics, at least as far as forums go, so I don't know where you're going to have such issues.

 

["LC"_Lapen]

My Christmas vacation ends tomorrow and, joy of joys, I'm getting sick...

I'm right there with you, brother. I rarely ever get sick but a little congestion and sore throat turned into a raging fever after I had to head our Frozen and Deli department for a few days, just now coming around to health again but the days have been hell. Hope you get some rest and NyQuil is always your comrade in arms.

Been pretty loosey goosey with this thread as a whole but I've been lurking it and as a fellow Geno vet of more than a decade I appreciate the work you put into, well, EVERYTHING. There are surely more silent onlookers who have yet to thank you directly, so never forget how many people appreciate the passion fans like you give back to keep the community alive. Thank You!

 

[MisterMike]

How to automatically tell someone isn't being genuine in a post

I know it's cool to circlejerk and make fun of Era for some reason, but you do realize it's probably the second most biggest Geno supporter website next to this website

You say 4chan is cool with him, but I honestly see the opposite, mostly because of you guys

Regardless of your opinion, SmashERA Is genuinely one of the more supportive places for Geno (Keep in mind I'm saying the "Smash" posting on Era and not the general population since that is an important distinction for Geno) and even when I've seen less support, SmashERA also remains mostly respectful about him. There's no reason to actively **** on a place that has shown support and respect for Geno at many different points (it's also very much like our Newcomer thread, it's more than Geno so of course there isn't some homogenized grand support there either).

Also, 4chan, GameFAQs, and any number of Discords exist that are much, much worse on a cringe level. I understand how politically people may not agree with much of ResetERA's leanings, but for the most part there's a lot of genuine good conversation and they try to keep the community fairly clean and as respectful as possible. ERA is really not that bad and you can have great conversations about a ton of different video games and related news.

Hard disagree. With 4chan the worst they'll typically do is laugh at and make fun of you for your takes regardless of what they are. ResetEra is a website that will ban you if you do anything the mods don't like or watch and/or support the wrong people. Hell, you don't even necessarily have to do anything wrong, if the mods feel like banning you some random day you'll be banned, no ifs ands or buts. Recently, someone made a ResetEra thread critical of Star Citizen (A crowdfunded game that's made millions of dollars and has little-to-nothing to show for it after 10 or so years of development), and not too long after it was made they and anyone else critical of the game were banned.

I don't know how ResetEra treats Geno, but you're dead right about 4chan not giving two ***** for Geno. At 4chan, they make fun of Geno and us over here at Smashboards that support him. It's full of Geno haters over there.

To be fair, 4chan will make fun of whoever you support.

 

[AdamBel731]

So, after three raids, two bans, several of my friends and confidants being publicly dragged for merely associating with me, tons of death threats, mountains of hate mail, questions and pings on a daily basis across three platforms, countless arguments, and, la creme de la creme of bull****, my parents getting a doxx threat... all over video game rumors... all over the course of a SINGLE month... the Geno essay is done... 12 pages... 5,500 words... All I need to do now is proofread it and make sure I didn't say anything extraordinary dumb because, I'll level with you all, most of this essay was written while I was either burned out on all the drama, trying to not let anger spill over into my writing, dogass tired, or after downing absurd amounts of coffee... My Christmas vacation ends tomorrow and, joy of joys, I'm getting sick... Despite this, I wanted to keep my promise and I'm happy to say that the ****ing thing is ****ing done (so quit messaging me at 3 in the morning asking me how far I am on it, wouldja?). Thank you for your patience, it should be up later today. As always, the Geno fanbase has kind of been my "online home" pretty much my whole adult life so this essay, perhaps the last I'll write before Geno's addition, means a lot to me and I hope you all have fun reading it, whether you believe my theories and speculation or not. Still, comrades, it's done and hopefully it's my last Geno speculation essay ever.

I'm glad you're finishing this despite all of the unnecessary hate you're getting. And I for one like your speculation during dry months like this. But also...

Fatmanonice Thoughts on this? You talked about many times before how Steve was pushed to try and hide Banjo & Kazooie, and you always mention Occam's Razor... so wouldn't Doom Slayer being #5 being the simplest solution? Again, characters aren't always widely heard of before release (Joker, Terry, etc.), for those who are hearing a specific Bethesda character, it could just be a red herring. While normally the Occam's Razor (simplest) solution would be just to accept what is being heard, but due to Cacodemon, wouldn't Doom Slayer be the simplest solution?

Do you mind please addressing this question of mine from yesterday? I think a lot of people, including myself obviously, are wondering this scenario. Due to you usually talking about Occam's Razor and how Steve was pushed over Banjo & Kazooie, so I think people are just interested applying that stuff to this Bethesda talk. Personally, I do think this could be likely since no one can seem to peg down a character. I'm not necessarily a Dragonborn detractor and a hardline Doom Slayer supporter, but I just wanted to ask about these things. Maybe I'm just in denial somewhat? Who knows, I guess.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Hard disagree. With 4chan the worst they'll typically do is laugh at and make fun of you for your takes regardless of what they are. ResetEra is a website that will ban you if you do anything the mods don't like or watch and/or support the wrong people. Hell, you don't even necessarily have to do anything wrong, if the mods feel like banning you some random day you'll be banned, no ifs ands or buts. Recently, someone made a ResetEra thread critical of Star Citizen (A crowdfunded game that's made millions of dollars and has little-to-nothing to show for it after 10 or so years of development), and not too long after it was made they and anyone else critical of the game were banned.

To be fair, 4chan will make fun of whoever you support.

I mean, I've seen people get banned for being dismissive of more traditionally problematic behaviors and elements, but I've not seen any of the outright critical elements banned. Like, they want people to actually have detailed posts and not just snipe at threads (which I don't see as a huge issue given sniping doesn't traditionally benefit threads, even if I think a ban is a bit harsh) and will issue temp bans for such behavior at times. Mods are people too who make mistakes, and we've seen that on literally every forum ever. I'm not defending ****ty behavior, but that's not like the norm over there any more than mods who have overextended on places like SmashBoards and it feels like you're pretty actively trying to frame ResetERA in a holistically negative way over a couple of temp bans.

 

[Franco Geno]

So, after three raids, two bans, several of my friends and confidants being publicly dragged for merely associating with me, tons of death threats, mountains of hate mail, questions and pings on a daily basis across three platforms, countless arguments, and, la creme de la creme of bull****, my parents getting a doxx threat... all over video game rumors... all over the course of a SINGLE month... the Geno essay is done... 12 pages... 5,500 words... All I need to do now is proofread it and make sure I didn't say anything extraordinary dumb because, I'll level with you all, most of this essay was written while I was either burned out on all the drama, trying to not let anger spill over into my writing, dogass tired, or after downing absurd amounts of coffee... My Christmas vacation ends tomorrow and, joy of joys, I'm getting sick... Despite this, I wanted to keep my promise and I'm happy to say that the ****ing thing is ****ing done (so quit messaging me at 3 in the morning asking me how far I am on it, wouldja?). Thank you for your patience, it should be up later today. As always, the Geno fanbase has kind of been my "online home" pretty much my whole adult life so this essay, perhaps the last I'll write before Geno's addition, means a lot to me and I hope you all have fun reading it, whether you believe my theories and speculation or not. Still, comrades, it's done and hopefully it's my last Geno speculation essay ever.

I can't believe it

 

[StarBot]

Hard disagree. With 4chan the worst they'll typically do is laugh at and make fun of you for your takes regardless of what they are. ResetEra is a website that will ban you if you do anything the mods don't like or watch and/or support the wrong people. Hell, you don't even necessarily have to do anything wrong, if the mods feel like banning you some random day you'll be banned, no ifs ands or buts. Recently, someone made a ResetEra thread critical of Star Citizen (A crowdfunded game that's made millions of dollars and has little-to-nothing to show for it after 10 or so years of development), and not too long after it was made they and anyone else critical of the game were banned.

To be fair, 4chan will make fun of whoever you support.

This has literally nothing to do with how do ERA character speculation specifically

 

[ForsakenM]

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Wait...is this Megamind?

Forgive me, I've actually never seen Megamind so...who am I supposed to be here?

 

[OffBi]

Wait...is this Megamind?

Forgive me, I've actually never seen Megamind so...who am I supposed to be here?

the sidekick of megamind

 

[Deleted member]

Wait...is this Megamind?

Forgive me, I've actually never seen Megamind so...who am I supposed to be here?

Megamind’s assistant.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Wait...is this Megamind?

Forgive me, I've actually never seen Megamind so...who am I supposed to be here?

a blue fish

 

[T2by4]

How to automatically tell someone isn't being genuine in a post

I know it's cool to circlejerk and make fun of Era for some reason, but you do realize it's probably the second most biggest Geno supporter website next to this website

You say 4chan is cool with him, but I honestly see the opposite, mostly because of you guys

You're gonna have your trolls from time to time, but for the most part 4chan is fine with Geno.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

You're gonna have your trolls from time to time, but for the most part 4chan is fine with Geno.

I uh.... Just no. 4chan hates just about every popular character until it's convenient for them not to. 4chan is most certainly not fine with Geno and you can go back further in this thread to find entire walls of salt and actively malicious comments/memes from various 4chan threads that have popped up over the years and especially in Ultimate's life time.

Seriously, we're not defending ****ing 4chan in the Geno thread now are we?

 

[T2by4]

I uh.... Just no. 4chan hates just about every popular character until it's convenient for them not to. 4chan is most certainly not fine with Geno and you can go back further in this thread to find entire walls of salt and actively malicious comments/memes from various 4chan threads that have popped up over the years and especially in Ultimate's life time.

Seriously, we're not defending ****ing 4chan in the Geno thread now are we?

I can post just as much geno bashing threads from gamefaqs, resetera, and other sites too. 4chan craps on everyone. They've had threads for geno support and geno bashing. It happens, but since I visit it pretty often I do notice that the supporters are there and it's more than you may think.

 

[EarlTamm]

I think we should probably stop this site talk, as it may count as off site drama. It's far more general than past cases, but it may still fall under that rule.

 

[Captain Fun]

KingZell teased The World Ends With You 2 two months ago and the remake for the game on Switch literally teased a sequel, so I think it is for that.

I believe it was Tansut, who teased it back in October. Not sure what Zell said.

 

[Deleted member]

Oi imagine no Direct this month at all. There's still Feburary but I do think it's this month.

Guess we'll see.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Oi imagine no Direct this month at all. There's still Feburary but I do think it's this month.

Guess we'll see.

Even better would just be a single reveal. We get Fighter's Pass #5 and no mention of future DLC, and the Smash fan base just implodes because half of it has been way more focused on post pass than #5 lol.

 

[Franco Geno]

Wait...is this Megamind?

Forgive me, I've actually never seen Megamind so...who am I supposed to be here?

His sidekick, since i really enjoy reading your big posts i thought it would be fitting ^^

 

[OffBi]

me to nintendo if we don't get a direct this week

 

[Fatmanonice]

Proofreading is now done and, not surprisingly, I added almost 200 more words in the process. Now I'm just kind of glassy eyed but I'll address something a TON of people have asked me since I came out with the name Dragonborn.

AdamBel731

Could Dragonborn be leakbait for Doom Guy? Yes. Do I think that's the case? No. Why? Reasons... (Imagine if I stopped there.)

1. Lots of people have been warning people about this for months.

Smash tends to "end" on "low notes." Yes, tons of people have chewed me out for calling Dragon Born a low note but, in the Smash bubble, people aren't exactly happy with the prospect (and my inbox on multiple sites is definitely proof of that). It's kind of like a Wolf/Krystal situation in Brawl but one obviously has a much more vocal fanbase. Skyrim is an absolutely beloved game and would be perfectly fine as an addition to Smash. I've gone into details why I think it's a logical choice based on theory crafting. Smash has never ended on a super popular character and, in my own speculation, I don't think Nintendo would have "warned us" back in September if they thought 5 was going to go over super well with everyone. This is another reason why I entertained Lloyd and Nightmare, because plenty of people complained about those characters too for their own set of reasons. As someone who has been here for Brawl, Smash 4, and Ultimate speculation, I can look at you all as a grizzled old man and could say that 5 would probably be a "low note" even if I wasn't theorycrafting or privy to insider stuff.

2. The situation isn't comparable to Steve and Banjo.

The reasons so many people believed in Steve over Banjo because people claimed that there was fake photos and even videos going around of him in Smash. In other words, Microsoft was full ass invested in a misinformation campaign on the character. Yes, those are tall claims but it honestly makes sense given how multiple insiders lived and died on that hill. There's nothing currently out there to suggest that for Dragonborn. No insiders aside from some contacts of my friends have outright said "holy ****, guys; here comes Dragonborn." People have taken to speculation and theorycrafting. Some insiders have left very cryptic hints to other insiders. That being said, there isn't the full on confidence that many insiders had for Steve. The people who are the most confident in this have kind of yeeted themselves out of existence or avoid the topic entirely. This is also why I've been getting a lot of **** because I'm confident based on my own theorycrafting and going against insiders and contacts is (checks notes) supposedly death threat worthy according to the Smash fanbase but whatever... I literally have no attachment to the character so the number of people who are absolutely furious at me for making this prediction is miserably ironic. Fun fact; I've never played Skyrim.

3. People have been saying "No Doom Guy" for months now.

I keep warning people that taking messages at face value is probably a good idea. Grant Kirkhope is a composer. He has no ownership of the Banjo IP outside of the original music. He's no longer an employee of RARE either and hasn't been for a longtime either. I believe he's a free lance video game composer now. He can lie in whatever capacity he wants and nobody can fault him for it. In the cases of Travis, Sora, and Doom Guy, there's significantly less incentive for full-on executives to lie about this stuff. These are respected men in the industry and their words are worth a lot. They have authority and control over million dollar IPs. To be totally blunt, for them to outright lie would be really ****ing bad, especially for the two in Japanese business culture. Professionalism is taken with a degree of grave seriousness. People laugh and point out that "ha ha, Kamiya is such a scoundrel", yeah, but he's definitely an outlier and a lot of his colleagues full on resent him because of his lack of professionalism. Your typical executive is not going to tell fans to eat **** on Twitter. These guys are suit and tie for most of these things.

"Well, why would they tell the truth to random interviewers?" Because there's definitely a value in that and not thinking you can just freely lie to people because they're "not as important as you." This is why I have confidants as young as 14 and as old as late 40's because I hate the idea of assuming that people aren't trustworthy based on age alone. Plus, all in all, there's plenty of ways to avoid situations like this. As someone who has been interviewed for a wide variety of reasons over the reasons, you can specifically ask for questions to not be recorded. Sometimes people "oops" during interviews or just super uncomfortable with certain things being said being blasted. This being said, these men had absolutely no objections to saying "we have no plans for these characters in Smash at this time" being part of the public record even though they had the right and power to just flat out say "hey man, don't include that part in your write up or I will legally squash you because I did not consent to it." Brass tacks, interviews are all about consent and, yes, people can be sued if they don't respect interviewees requests.

So, there's all that...