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Ultimate is in fact his only and last chance, if you ask damn near anybody.I'm just waiting the new smash game; Ultimate is not Geno's chance
I am pretty sure this has been said before by several Smash fan-bases in past games that get their character eventually. Ultimate is certainly his best shot, that's for sure.Ultimate is in fact his only and last chance, if you ask damn near anybody.
Sakurai's impending retirement is far less removed from Ultimate than any prior installment. It's also the "all-inclusive" nature of the game this time around that leads me to believe it's the best chance for most characters who have been long-requested. Hard to imagine niche picks finding their limelight under any other circumstance, when there's slim chance another Smash game could come close to this amount of fan-service.I am pretty sure this has been said before by several Smash fan-bases in past games that get their character eventually. Ultimate is certainly his best shot, that's for sure.
100%, though I do imagine trying to follow up Ultimate will be the challenge of a lifetime. I think the next Smash would need to shake things up quite a bit just to not be overshadowed by its predecessor.I don't really think Geno's doomed even if he doesn't get into Ultimate. I remember back when people thought Brawl would be the last Smash game, period. And I'm pretty sure that Sakurai has already said something to the extent of, 'If there is demand for Smash, I'll continue to make it'.
Ultimate is in fact his only and last chance, if you ask damn near anybody.
I think if Geno doesn't get into Ultimate it will be game over for the star doll:I am pretty sure this has been said before by several Smash fan-bases in past games that get their character eventually. Ultimate is certainly his best shot, that's for sure.
I know its not happening but imagine fighting in smash to the seaside town theme. Probably not a good fighting track, but I love it nonetheless.I Honestly cannot choose a 3rd track.. but I guess I'd go for Nimbus Land (Let's do the Fooka-Fooka)..
I really want him to bring at least 8 tracks, it isn't that much, right? I hope Shimomura owns the music (And not Square Enix).
Oh Oh! And I'd LOVE if Geno ends up coming with Fight Against Culex so we can get an additional FF track.
I still think he can get in, if thats what your meaning. Im really hopeful and have a good feeling he'll be in!I'm just waiting the new smash game; Ultimate is not Geno's chance
If they make that 4th one an alt I will definitely use that one when I play Geno.Oh, if we're talking about potential alternate costumes, I think they could make some of his alts based off of the official artwork for Geno's different capes! The happy cape in particular is one of my favorites, the texture is so... mesmerizing.
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I feel like the biggest color missing with the official art of his capes is a clearly defined green, given most of the Fuzzy gear for the rest of the crew is more yellow, but honestly Fire Cape could be more yellow-orange to emphasize the differenceOh, if we're talking about potential alternate costumes, I think they could make some of his alts based off of the official artwork for Geno's different capes! The happy cape in particular is one of my favorites, the texture is so... mesmerizing.
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With all this talk of Geno's chances, I just want to throw my two cents into the ring:I think this might be Geno’s last shot at a Smash game. In the next decade we will get a new Smash game but so many other characters new and old will get into this game and will be priority over other characters. So, I think that this will be when Geno gets in. And I do think everyone is here will happen again. Nintendo will want to shell out more money because this is the highest selling fighting game of all time and they want to capitalize on this franchise for as long as they can. I think everyone will be back next time around.
Your opinion of Geno's chances are a roller coaster, friend.I'm just waiting the new smash game; Ultimate is not Geno's chance
Those sure are all words, but:I'm just waiting the new smash game; Ultimate is not Geno's chance
Ultimate is a game that’s only happening once. I’m sure there will be more Smash games, but I don’t think they’ll be like this one. Now is the time to get those old fan requests in.Your opinion of Geno's chances are a roller coaster, friend.
... But I do agree with the general consensus that Ultimate is his last chance. I think it's easy for guys around my age (which this thread is maybe unsurprisingly made up of) to have our childhood games so fresh in our minds, for us to hold them in such high regard, for us to go back and replay them so often... and forget just how old they are.
One of the things that sticks with me about just how much time has passed is a comment I read before Ultimate came out regarding Isaac - if he were put into Ultimate as a playable character, he would be older at the time of inclusion (2001-2018) than Ice Climbers were when they were included in Melee (1985-2001). Granted, it isn't by much, and if we went by time since last appearance it wouldn't be true, but the point stands. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think this is a real barrier for entry, as Hero essentially waited 33 years, Pac-Man for 24 and Banjo for 21, but as a detractor would be quick to point out, Geno isn't a company mascot or an icon of gaming, or the main character of a Mario 64 knockoff (the spiciest take I'll dispense today, most likely), he's just a side character that Nintendo doesn't own.
Really, though? None of that matters. It's all just a weak attempt at trying to create some logic to justify what are essentially total random inclusions. Maybe one day when Sakurai finally calls it quits we'll know exactly how characters were chosen, but as it stands, anyone's chances are as good as anyone else, barring obvious BS picks like Batman or Goku.
In general, I think looking to the future of Smash is ill advised if your character isn't playable yet. We have no idea what the future is going to look like for a game that, at this point, has got to be the most tangled legal spaghetti to ever exist. This is the sort of discussion I got into with a friend once - we've got a game where Solid Snake and Cloud Strife are together on the box (of the special edition, at least) - how long does Nintendo get to keep the rights to market such a thing? Is it even feasible at this point to do the easiest possible thing and port it for all eternity with a few extra characters/new rounds of DLC every time? To put the cherry on top of that, this is a cooperation of businesses, and we never know when relations could sour, or someone could just stop existing. Sure, it's unlikely for Square to just go bankrupt in between now and the time frame for the next Smash, but what about someone like SNK? There's so many "if"s involved in Smash's future at this point that it's really just best to live in the now and demand what you want while the Switch is relevant, since with enough fan demand, they could produce DLC for this game for the rest of the Switch's life (and if the demand is high enough, not doing so is just leaving money on the table). We have to be noisy for Geno now and we can't just roll over and die like we've been conditioned to do thanks to 4 games of no/limited DLC.
Our boy got a mii costume with a goddamn splash screen and it's not back yet despite K. Rool and Isabelle being playable characters. He's coming, hold onto those dreams. Lloydbros too, we're all gonna make it.
I've actually been working on a Mallow moveset. My thought was, since he's pretty weak physically and pretty strong magically, his moveset would have a strong focus on using his special moves to help with his otherwise sub-par normals. My favorite idea from the unfinished moveset I'm working on is using "Psychopath" as his Down B, and if he hits an opponent with it they take more hitstun for a short time, and since his normals before weren't very good at comboing, it syngerizes well with itself.If Mallow were made a playable fighter, how exactly would he fight? We have a pretty extensive baseline for Geno, but I’m curious what kind of fighter Mallow would be
I don't think it could really work, mostly because it wouldn't fit. SMRPG has your entire team out at once, but they take turns attacking... It couldn't really be a down+b swap move like PT or melee Zelda, but having two characters with more than enough potential for an entire moveset, and cramming them together into one moveset where one does some moves and the other does the rest, it would just feel cluttered. Plus they have very opposite stats, which would just kinda be a cluster**** at best.I know it’s ridiculous, but what if they did a Mallow/Geno in one character. Obviously I do not think or consider this happening, however it could be interesting.
Had to sit and think about this one for a bit. Damn what happened?Also to emphasize how old we all are, as of yesterday Homestar Runner has been around for 20 years.
Don't get me started on listing how old **** is, I will make us all feel like we belong in a retirement home. Just remember the Wii is going on 14 years old now and draw your own conclusions for what that means for the Super Nintendo and how long it's been since Nintendo absolutely dominated the video game sphere. Super Mario Bros. 3, the absolute pinnacle of 2D Mario is just as old as I am, and I'm sad to report that I am not the absolute pinnacle of anything.Ultimate is a game that’s only happening once. I’m sure there will be more Smash games, but I don’t think they’ll be like this one. Now is the time to get those old fan requests in.
Also to emphasize how old we all are, as of yesterday Homestar Runner has been around for 20 years. Old SNES games like SMRPG need things like references, rereleases, and remasters so they can be more than old stories told around fires by codgers like us.
Part of the magic of Smash has always been its power to introduce people to new games. I don’t know if I’d have checked out Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, or (eventually) Earthbound if I hadn’t seen the various characters in Smash 64. And somehow that effect still happens, I’ve got 3 SNK fighting games on my Switch now thanks to a certain mr Bogard. When a character is in Smash it’s like they’re elevated to a new level. There’s all this fanart of Terry and Banjo and ROB and Wolf and Lucas and Roy and all these characters that probably wouldn’t get it otherwise, but they’re in Smash, and because of that they’ll always be remembered because they’ll always be “Character #X in Smash Bros”, and I think that’s just really cool.Don't get me started on listing how old **** is, I will make us all feel like we belong in a retirement home. Just remember the Wii is going on 14 years old now and draw your own conclusions for what that means for the Super Nintendo and how long it's been since Nintendo absolutely dominated the video game sphere. Super Mario Bros. 3, the absolute pinnacle of 2D Mario is just as old as I am, and I'm sad to report that I am not the absolute pinnacle of anything.
A fun anecdote, though, thinking about getting games into the hands of the newer generation, is the fact that I let a kid from my Smash scene borrow my PSP so he could play Mother 3. I have a lot of games on it, and even though he said he probably wouldn't play Mario RPG even if Geno got into Smash, he told me that he hasn't played Mother 3 because he got distracted by Mario RPG. I can't complain! My heart warms whenever someone half my age tells me that modern games don't hit like the old ones, because it justifies the chip on my shoulder for the past decade - the old stuff really is better, save for the rare gem.
I get cynical and say stuff like "kids are gonna think Cloud's the main character of Final Fantasy" or "I bet they think Mega Man is just a Smash Bros character" but really, it's the opposite and they actually do get interested in it and look it up. We live in a really special time that I didn't imagine being possible when I was growing up, where parents and their children, or just multiple generations of strangers can enjoy the same types of things and live in the same sort of culture. None of that awkward disconnect of slang and not knowing what's "cool" like it was back in the 90s and 2000s.
Geno'll be more than a side character from a 24 year old RPG to them when he becomes playable. I think most will agree that he's the most deserving character from the game to be immortalized in the Smash pantheon for all the reasons that we've spent the better part of 2158 pages discussing - probably moreso than Mario, but that's just like, my opinion, man.
And this is why it's high time to truly immortalize Geno.Part of the magic of Smash has always been its power to introduce people to new games. I don’t know if I’d have checked out Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, or (eventually) Earthbound if I hadn’t seen the various characters in Smash 64. And somehow that effect still happens, I’ve got 3 SNK fighting games on my Switch now thanks to a certain mr Bogard. When a character is in Smash it’s like they’re elevated to a new level. There’s all this fanart of Terry and Banjo and ROB and Wolf and Lucas and Roy and all these characters that probably wouldn’t get it otherwise, but they’re in Smash, and because of that they’ll always be remembered because they’ll always be “Character #X in Smash Bros”, and I think that’s just really cool.
ON the topic of kids and adults today being able to enjoy the same type of things, that actually has been going on for awhile now, not with video games, but other entertainment mediums, most notably music.Long post.
Man, imagine "I never would have checked out any of the Mario RPG games if it weren't for Geno in Smash, I always thought Mario was just 'jump on ****' and figured an RPG like that would be boring!"And this is why it's high time to truly immortalize Geno.
Melee convinced me to run through Earthbound on an emulator (After long debating the purchase of a highly priced SNES cartridge) and to this day it makes my top three video games of all time.Man, imagine "I never would have checked out any of the Mario RPG games if it weren't for Geno in Smash, I always thought Mario was just 'jump on ****' and figured an RPG like that would be boring!"
Or we could just get actual info on SMT5.NEWS FLASH, PEOPLE!
Apparently, we've got some evidence pointing towards a direct next week. Even more interesting is evidence suggesting that fighter #5 is going to be from Shin Megami Tensei 5. Check this out:
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2020...ndles-and-atlus-teasing-shin-megami-tensei-5/
Some think fighter 5 could be from Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. Holy mother of feck, could you imagine if another fire emblem character TECHNICALLY gets in as a mirage?
That too!....Or we could just get actual info on SMT5.
If that means my boy Itsuki gets in smash, Im all for itNEWS FLASH, PEOPLE!
Apparently, we've got some evidence pointing towards a direct next week. Even more interesting is evidence suggesting that fighter #5 is going to be from Shin Megami Tensei 5. Check this out:
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2020...ndles-and-atlus-teasing-shin-megami-tensei-5/
Some think fighter 5 could be from Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. Holy mother of feck, could you imagine if another fire emblem character TECHNICALLY gets in as a mirage?
Man I love Smash fans sometimesNEWS FLASH, PEOPLE!
Apparently, we've got some evidence pointing towards a direct next week. Even more interesting is evidence suggesting that fighter #5 is going to be from Shin Megami Tensei 5. Check this out:
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2020...ndles-and-atlus-teasing-shin-megami-tensei-5/
Some think fighter 5 could be from Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. Holy mother of feck, could you imagine if another fire emblem character TECHNICALLY gets in as a mirage?
Smash 4 left us battered and abused.Man I love Smash fans sometimes
*Overwatch on Switch*
”Is Tracer in Smash?!?”
*Potential SMTV info*
”Is there another Altus character in Smash?”
Meanwhile Banjo & Kazooie were dlc characters who haven’t been in a video game in years. I mean I won’t deny the possibility but I just think it’s funny that this happens every time a new game gets Switch info
I know. This is just an article we have here talking about an Atlus series called Shin Megami Tensei 5, not Shin Megami Tensei 5 having a character in Smash. Those are two different things. I mean, just because a news site says something about a game like that doesn't mean a character from that game will be in Smash Bros. Ultimate; let alone talking about a Smash update separately in the same article, right?Man I love Smash fans sometimes
*Overwatch on Switch*
”Is Tracer in Smash?!?”
*Potential SMTV info*
”Is there another Altus character in Smash?”
Meanwhile Banjo & Kazooie were dlc characters who haven’t been in a video game in years. I mean I won’t deny the possibility but I just think it’s funny that this happens every time a new game gets Switch info