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****! I thought it was for realz for a second damn.[EDIT] Whoops, my mistake lol
I am aware of these and we actually talked about these a couple of days ago.Is this the source that Fatman is using right now? The one that is saying “controversial third party western rep”?
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If this is all true, I don’t think we should take this source seriously anymore. (Not a knock against Fatman, but a potential faulty source)
That would be a sweet reveal trailer. Starts off like the SM64 trailer with the toys fighting, manipulated by an unseen hand, and the ot pulls back and it's Gaz playing. Cue Geno revealIn other news, I think Gaz is a very underrated character of SMRPG.
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Would've been nice to see Geno return to play with him one more time before leaving.
Wait, that list of SNK character did say "Classic SNK costume" so technically it was still part of the Mii Costume listI am aware of these and we actually talked about these a couple of days ago.
-He says Popeye is ****posting and it really annoys him that people use that against him.
-Defends Jill as simply a story that multiple people have heard, which I can confirm. Whether it's real or not is highly questionable but the rumors has reached a lot of people.
-The Mii costume statement is absolutely false. They leaked the SMRPG costumes and Banjo costumes in the middle of July and this video proves it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GwtEGF4rEMA&t=389s
-Also already explained that nowhere in his original message did he say that the SNK character list were costumes and was a misinterpretion of the original recepient. They are, again, beat for beat Terry's spirit board.
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-Honestly don't care about the Moogle thing because it's the first time I've heard it and not really a fair point to totally discard them on given everything they've gotten right.
It was assumed at the time that these were Mii Costume names which is why it says that, but that was confirmed to have been as mistake.Wait, that list of SNK character did say "Classic SNK costume" so technically it was still part of the Mii Costume list
That was also a typeo/ mistake from guy who got the list. He did get classic snk stuff sprirts right. Like the psycho solider one.Wait, that list of SNK character did say "Classic SNK costume" so technically it was still part of the Mii Costume list
I mean, doesn't Papageno talk to the same source that has discussed the whole idea of the next character being something disappointing? I recall something like that being the case at least.Things are looking pretty swell in here. I dropped a message for PapaGenos to come check if he hasn't already so he can see what's going on with Geno specualtion and the 5th fighter in general. Maybe he has something to add or make a video about all this (Unless Fatman asks him not to). It's really exciting!
They're still at this? C'mon, Pokemon already made more money than anyone here will see in our lifetime; they need to let it go.https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/1...poena-sword-shield-leak-leakers-discord-4chan
Yikes is all I can say to this. I wonder if after this the leak scene for smash is going to become eerily quiet. Also if hypothetically the cacomallow leak is real it makes me wonder if Nintendo is already going after whoever leaked it or if they’re playing it cool until the associated characters release. Or it could be that it’s fake so therefore they don’t give a ****.
What happened? I've been off for almost a day.Things are looking pretty swell in here. I dropped a message for PapaGenos to come check if he hasn't already so he can see what's going on with Geno specualtion and the 5th fighter in general. Maybe he has something to add or make a video about all this (Unless Fatman asks him not to). It's really exciting!
Could be, I'm kinda lost about who talks to who at this point, I just make note of what's being confirmed. ^^;I mean, doesn't Papageno talk to the same source that has discussed the whole idea of the next character being something disappointing? I recall something like that being the case at least.
I'm on and off here cuz I'm working at the same time. Seems like Fatman's source looks to be legit so it bodes well fo Geno! All the other stuff is the usual for now, just speculating upcoming characters that have credible rumors and stuff going for them.What happened? I've been off for almost a day.
Actually I was meaning to ask someone for the discord link, happy for it in PMs...I would reccomend you guys join the Star Road Discord server...
Assuming the unmentionables are what you’ve described as leakers and sources as insiders, I find it strange that you’d feel that the insiders would purposely want to feed misinformation (as much as there are trolling types, I don’t think we could say every leaker is out to troll people downstream to them). I’d be much more inclined to think that Nintendo Ninjas decided to go for a deception tactic and the insiders are receiving misinformation that they don’t know is false, and then disseminate that selectively to the leakers without really appreciating that they were false.After all, these "insiders" could have started to give false information to leakers, to throw them off and never find out who might be it. Remember all the deconfirmed characters? There were so many it was thought off as a joke, lmao.
I WANT THAT SO BADThat would be a sweet reveal trailer. Starts off like the SM64 trailer with the toys fighting, manipulated by an unseen hand, and the ot pulls back and it's Gaz playing. Cue Geno reveal
Considering that it's been over a month and the video is still on Youtube I think it's either fake or Nintendo doesn't care/know about it. But if you look at how how hard TPC is going after the SwSh leakers, I kinda doubt it's the ladder...https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/1...poena-sword-shield-leak-leakers-discord-4chan
Yikes is all I can say to this. I wonder if after this the leak scene for smash is going to become eerily quiet. Also if hypothetically the cacomallow leak is real it makes me wonder if Nintendo is already going after whoever leaked it or if they’re playing it cool until the associated characters release. Or it could be that it’s fake so therefore they don’t give a ****.
Fatman dropped some interesting information he had heard regarding the next fighter, and by extension Geno.What happened? I've been off for almost a day.
I feel as if the context for ROM related leaks of SwSh and the contemporary outrage towards the multitude of issues voiced towards those games set a rather different stage relative to prerelease footage of DLC of dubious validity for a game that has received critical and financial acclaimConsidering that it's been over a month and the video is still on Youtube I think it's either fake or Nintendo doesn't care/know about it. But if you look at how how hard TPC is going after the SwSh leakers, I kinda doubt it's the ladder...
I feel as if the context for ROM related leaks of SwSh and the contemporary outrage towards the multitude of issues voiced towards those games set a rather different stage relative to prerelease footage of DLC of dubious validity for a game that has received critical and financial acclaim
Out of curiosity was Ken on Moray Towers ever flagged by Nintendo before Ken’s official reveal?
One thing that hasn't been brought up here is that Bethesda doesn't actually own id Software, the developers responsible for DOOM, but rather they're both owned by the same company, so it's not even a guarantee that a Bethesda rep would necessarily deconfirm anyone or anything.Fatman dropped some interesting information he had heard regarding the next fighter, and by extension Geno.
He has mentioned that these are rumors, so take it with some skepticism as per usual:
There's other comments he's made, but they are relatively minor. This is the general information most people have ended up reading. Very nice prospects for Geno if they happen to be true
- The SNK "Mii costume" leak from way back that mentioned Mallow, Smithy and Chocobo would be Mii costumes was actually spot-on. The reason why most people discarded it was because of a mistranslation from the source to the person who shared the info to folks like Papagenos. The Mii costume leak was actually a spirit board leak in regards to the SNK section. That means the possibility of the aforementioned costumes popping up is alot more likely.
- Fatman has clarified that fighter 5, whomever it may be, will disappoint people. He went on to specify the type of character and how it would basically deconfirm another highly speculated character (3rd party character, Western company). Some are still trying to figure out exactly what company is taking the hit.
- Geno is not fighter 5 or even 6. Fatman believes that Geno is likely fighter 7 given everything he's managed to hear so far, but he'll be talking about it in his testament (err, essay) about Geno's chances for Smash.
- Cacomallow leak is still a "it's complicated" leak. It could very well be possible that point 2 turns out to be a Bethesda rep that's not Doomguy, so that Doom Mii costumes can happen and solidify Cacomallow leak. However, no Doom Mii costumes could also occur with a Bethesda rep and make the leak fake as well, hence terming it as being complicated. Sources are still somewhat confused by this from what I recall reading.
No, not as far as I know. But I don't think the two are all that comparable. One was a cropped image leak, the other one is gameplay footage uploaded on Youtube.I feel as if the context for ROM related leaks of SwSh and the contemporary outrage towards the multitude of issues voiced towards those games set a rather different stage relative to prerelease footage of DLC of dubious validity for a game that has received critical and financial acclaim
Out of curiosity was Ken on Moray Towers ever flagged by Nintendo before Ken’s official reveal?
And that's a good point to bring up. id Software isn't owned by Bethesda directly, but their parent company ZeniMax Media owns them.One thing that hasn't been brought up here is that Bethesda doesn't actually own id Software, the developers responsible for DOOM, but rather they're both owned by the same company, so it's not even a guarantee that a Bethesda rep would necessarily deconfirm anyone or anything.
Yep, but I'm just pointing this out because it's not the first time people have come to conclusions based on incomplete, tenuous information.And that's a good point to bring up. id Software isn't owned by Bethesda directly, but their parent company ZeniMax Media owns them.
However, the reason that I mentioned Doomguy as being Bethesda is because id Software's titles are typically paired with Bethesda's stuff, whether it's this year's E3 showcase Bethesda had, or Bethesda Softworks being the one that publishes (and even advertises) the recent DOOM titles. It's complicated, but it's why it's easier for me to call Doomguy a Bethesda representative than being a ZeniMax one, lol.
To my knowledge, no. Also, plenty of people made videos talking about it like Papa Genos and Gamexplain.I feel as if the context for ROM related leaks of SwSh and the contemporary outrage towards the multitude of issues voiced towards those games set a rather different stage relative to prerelease footage of DLC of dubious validity for a game that has received critical and financial acclaim
Out of curiosity was Ken on Moray Towers ever flagged by Nintendo before Ken’s official reveal?
Actually, it was one image and a couple of WEBMs uploaded to 4chan which were then uploaded to YouTube.No, not as far as I know. But I don't think the two are all that comparable. One was a cropped image leak, the other one is gameplay footage uploaded on Youtube.
Is the snk mii costume leak the same as the crash mii costume leak? Does anyone have the original image?Fatman dropped some interesting information he had heard regarding the next fighter, and by extension Geno.
He has mentioned that these are rumors, so take it with some skepticism as per usual:
There's other comments he's made, but they are relatively minor. This is the general information most people have ended up reading. Very nice prospects for Geno if they happen to be true
- The SNK "Mii costume" leak from way back that mentioned Mallow, Smithy and Chocobo would be Mii costumes was actually spot-on. The reason why most people discarded it was because of a mistranslation from the source to the person who shared the info to folks like Papagenos. The Mii costume leak was actually a spirit board leak in regards to the SNK section. That means the possibility of the aforementioned costumes popping up is alot more likely.
- Fatman has clarified that fighter 5, whomever it may be, will disappoint people. He went on to specify the type of character and how it would basically deconfirm another highly speculated character (3rd party character, Western company). Some are still trying to figure out exactly what company is taking the hit.
- Geno is not fighter 5 or even 6. Fatman believes that Geno is likely fighter 7 given everything he's managed to hear so far, but he'll be talking about it in his testament (err, essay) about Geno's chances for Smash.
- Cacomallow leak is still a "it's complicated" leak. It could very well be possible that point 2 turns out to be a Bethesda rep that's not Doomguy, so that Doom Mii costumes can happen and solidify Cacomallow leak. However, no Doom Mii costumes could also occur with a Bethesda rep and make the leak fake as well, hence terming it as being complicated. Sources are still somewhat confused by this from what I recall reading.
Right, I think he has me on ignore for me challenging his viewpoints, so instead of talking to him I'm gonna talk about his attitude. Nothing is definitely pointing towards a definitive disconfirmation of KOS-MOS for good, like nothing is pointing to a definitive disconfirmation of Dante (another of his most wanteds) for good, but in both cases he's given up hope. Hope, fun and a genuine faith in Sakurai to do what he thinks is best for Smash is why people stick around, after all, and he has 0/3. You'd think that with this downcast mood he'd stop posting in an incredibly optimistic thread, but nah, he's stuck in this cycle of complaining. Geno's chances are looking very good but he is too stuck in complaining about Sakurai's perceived failures. Waluigi has a legit chance to strike back and this is ignored- all first party complaints being levelled at the dreaded Plant that seemingly forever ruined Smash for him. Unknown amounts of DLC after FP5 where Sakurai is stating he aims to please are ignored also, which is absurd. Please don't get in a rut and do nothing but complain (it's a Geno support thread, after all).Now that KOS-MOS ain't happening I'm just ready for Ultimate to end. Right now nothing is filling me the confidence that Sakurai is going to include anymore fan favorite characters like Geno or upgrade Assist Trophies & Mii Costumes. This was going to be the last wave of DLC and Sakurai was happy enough to have the last Nintendo character ever to be added to be Piranha Plant and only having one spot of the Fighters Pass be reserved for a ballot request character. What makes anyone think that future DLC is going to be any different with how things have been going for a year?
To be honest, Verge lost a ton of credibility in my eyes after that whole fiasco.
When Verges “source” said “no Namco”, it should’ve meant exactly that, no Namco for FP5. KOS-MOS is fully owned by Namco, that should’ve ended the conversation immediately.
However, when all of the “leaks” starting popping up for KOS-MOS, he created a scenario where it would be impossible for him to be wrong. He was probably worried about them potentially being true, so he went with the “not sure” route, despite this being a complete contradiction to him saying “no Namco, period.”
For the last part, I could only think of two scenarios on why he would do this. He either didn’t know which company she belonged to, which he could’ve just Googled it, orAbout my post earlier, there is also one major thing that is incredibly odd. I guess they would call this a “plot hole” if Smash speculation was a movie.
If Vergebens source really had told him “no Namco characters” with absolute certainty before the KOS-MOS fake leaks popped up (which prompted him to ask), then why did he even ask about her in the first place? Kind of pointless to ask a question you already know the answer to, if you ask me.
Just to point out, KOS-MOS does have a confusing copyright. While she's owned by Bandai Namco, they're only credited for blade designs in the credits of XC2, not for the rights of KOS-MOS(unlike, for example, Square Enix being credited for Geno in the credits of Superstar Saga), and the XC2 design is owned by Nintendo, similarly to Bayonneta's design in Bayonneta 2.For the last part, I could only think of two scenarios on why he would do this. He either didn’t know which company she belonged to, which he could’ve just Googled it, or
”No Namco” was made up by him. And by proxy, every other deconfirmation.
Well...Now that KOS-MOS ain't happening I'm just ready for Ultimate to end. Right now nothing is filling me the confidence that Sakurai is going to include anymore fan favorite characters like Geno or upgrade Assist Trophies & Mii Costumes. This was going to be the last wave of DLC and Sakurai was happy enough to have the last Nintendo character ever to be added to be Piranha Plant and only having one spot of the Fighters Pass be reserved for a ballot request character. What makes anyone think that future DLC is going to be any different with how things have been going for a year?
But the fact still remains that she is owned by Namco, right?Just to point out, KOS-MOS does have a confusing copyright. While she's owned by Bandai Namco, they're only credited for blade designs in the credits of XC2, not for the rights of KOS-MOS(unlike, for example, Square Enix being credited for Geno in the credits of Superstar Saga), and the XC2 design is owned by Nintendo, similarly to Bayonneta's design in Bayonneta 2.
Yeah it can be a little confusing with her connection to Monolith, but yeah she’s a Namco characterBut the fact still remains that she is owned by Namco, right?
Therefore, she would be a Namco rep. And as a result, she should’ve been completely ruled out when Vergeben said “no Namco characters.”
Wait, so is Mallow and Smithy going to be Geno’s spirit board, or will they be Mii Costumes?Also, I asked about the Mallow/Smithy thing. It was another typo. It was supposed to mean two separate costumes.
Geno in that art style would be amazing!Just wanted to drop this gorgeous art of all of the SSBU newcomers in here! (Artist's Twitter link below)
Check out SchAlternate ( SchAlternate ): https://twitter.com/SchAlternate?s=09 on Twitter
I love art with of the characters/newcomers in it. I love seeing people's different styles and such. And apparently the person is going to keep updating the image with each character that gets announced!
I can't wait to see the final product! Just like the offical Ultimate banner, seeing all of these characters together reminds me just how amazing and special Smash is.
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They're Mii costumes if the leak is correct, since Mallow is already a spirit in the base game.Wait, so is Mallow and Smithy going to be Geno’s spirit board, or will they be Mii Costumes?