Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Fatmanonice]

A fake leak, but still interesting to look at
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In an alternate universe where Mischief Makers stayed relevant. Played that game to death as a kid.

 

[RingJ5]

It wouldn't be the first time he does this in this website or any forum board out there.

Does he have any remote basis to his claims, though? It seems like you would know.

As much as I vehemently disagree with the notion that Nightmare is #5, seeing someone come in and claim this stuff while getting flooded with likes from people that don’t exactly post here all that often(if at all) seems... suspicious, to say the least.

Just gonna do a casual driveby and point out a major deet you decided to leave out of this tear-filled retirement speech: You didn't "retire", you were kicked out of the group. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I get that you've grown to like this wannabe "insider" persona and the attention it draws you, hence why you chose to pretend you had this honorable exit instead of being caber tossed out of the group in embarrassing fashion for being a nuisance, but in case you weren't aware, you're already a laughing stock elsewhere in the Smash community. Nothing you say comes to fruition, and people who actually have close ties to leakers say that the people you pretend to be tied to the hip to are routinely annoyed by your antics.



Don't throw stones when you're living in a glass house. Or, in this case, a house with a black bird perched atop it. Remember that? Good times.

You haven't gotten a damn thing right except stuff that doesn't require inside knowledge to guess (half the community was predicting content after the Fighter's Pass). You went from saying there were "four possible candidates who are similar but are from different companies" to "It's Lloyd, Nightmare, or Sol Badguy" to "It's definitely Nightmare" in under a month.

I won't stick around and cause trouble here, this post is meant to be a one-off. But I'll be sure to come back when it's not Nightmare and laugh hysterically over your latest blunder. Sound good, Mr. Insider?

Might as well mention you directly as well, any proof to back up these claims?

 

[Franco Geno]

While we wait for the arrival of our star boy, how is everyone doing? i hope you're having a fantastic day

 

[link2702]

Mischief makers was probably the weirdest game I ever played on the n64, and one of the weirdest in general.


I mean itwas a great game, just...weird. The art style, the universe, the characters, even the music. Idk how else to explain it.

Haven’t played it in years....wonder if I should hunt down a copy at my local vintage stock...

 

[SuperNintendoDisney]

A ghost from Smashboards' past, just dropping by to call out some half-truths, blatant lies, and insane hypocrisies.

Stirring the pot is sorta my schtick. As I said previously, I'm not going to be sticking around, my one and only purpose for visiting this thread was to call Fatman out on the nonsense he's been spewing. Just disregard me and continue business as usual.

Want to hear some whole truths? Game Journalism is a fake career, therefore, all those literal who insiders and discord members are truly the lowest of the low for being the lackeys of other failures. “Insider” and “attention seeker” are synonymous, with Sabi being the most pretentious weirdo of all, judging by tweets and behavior. Who has time to run discord’s and sniff booty for “insider information,” failures at everything else, get a real job

Your input has been noted, you can stop telling how much you don’t plan on sticking around

 

[JudgeHeihachi]

Technically have already taken two breaks this year so I'm good for now. I think there will be plenty to talk about in the coming days. A January Direct will probably happen so the wait to talk about fresher things won't be that long. Plus, my job is kind of boring so being on my phone helps the days go by faster.

Also a friendly reminder to you and everyone else here that the "Power of 6" mii costume theory that you claim as yours was originally from me which i posted on GameFAQs, which you did originally admit until it became the base of all of your "speculation" for FP5 and you began claiming it as yours.
Because it has been so misused by you, i regret ever posting it back then. Just a quick thing to clear things up: If we get a new Namco rep for post-pass it's 100% going to be Heihachi. Lloyd does not represent anything and wasn't even worthy to be put in Pac-Man's Namco roulette taunt. We know Lloyd is also not going to be FP5, so it was not because of the reason that he was saved for later use. And as post-FP DLC wasn't a thing at first, it is obvious Lloyd is simply not importnt enough for anything and wasn't on Sakurai's mind to give him any representation and is just an echo-chamber pick. It's over. Tekken sold 2.5 times as much as Lloyd and Heihachi was already considered for Smash once, and like Ridley, Villager or PAc.Man has a chance to be reconsidered. Even if you and ForsakenM do not want to hear this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78143628
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1694#post-23649234
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1710#post-23651536

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Does he have any remote basis to his claims, though? It seems like you would know.

As much as I vehemently disagree with the notion that Nightmare is #5, seeing someone come in and claim this stuff while getting flooded with likes from people that don’t exactly post here all that often(if at all) seems... suspicious, to say the least.

Maybe it's because people outside of the echo chamber are in here for once.

Food for thought.

 

[RingJ5]

Want to hear some whole truths? Game Journalism is a fake career, therefore, all those literal who insiders and discord members are truly the lowest of the low for being the lackeys of other failures. “Insider” and “attention seeker” are synonymous, with Sabi being the most pretentious weirdo of all, judging by tweets and behavior. Who has time to run discord’s and sniff booty for “insider information,” failures at everything else, get a real job

Your input has been noted, you can stop telling how much you don’t plan on sticking around

Also a friendly reminder to you and everyone else here that the "Power of 6" mii costume theory that you claim as yours was originally from me which i posted on GameFAQs, which you did originally admit until it became the base of all of your "speculation" for FP5 and you began claiming it as yours.
Because it has been so misused by you, i regret ever posting it back then. Just a quick thing to clear things up: If we get a new Namco rep for post-pass it's 100% going to be Heihachi. Lloyd does not represent anything and wasn't even worthy to be put in Pac-Man's Namco roulette taunt. We know Lloyd is also not going to be FP5, so it was not because of the reason that he was saved for later use. And as post-FP DLC wasn't a thing at first, it is obvious Lloyd is simply not importnt enough for anything and wasn't on Sakurai's mind to give him any representation and is just an echo-chamber pick. It's over. Tekken sold 2.5 times as much as Lloyd and Heihachi was already considered for Smash once, and like Ridley, Villager or PAc.Man has a chance to be reconsidered. Even if you and ForsakenM do not want to hear this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78143628
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1694#post-23649234
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1710#post-23651536

Maybe it's because people outside of the echo chamber are in here for once.

Food for thought.

...The **** just happened? Did you all join together for a coordinated effort to suddenly pile on Fatman? I mean, again, I haven’t believed his huge running “thank you” theory for even a second, but this all seems quite sudden. Any of you have any way to back up that “he was kicked out” claim?

 

[Deleted member]

Also a friendly reminder to you and everyone else here that the "Power of 6" mii costume theory that you claim as yours was originally from me which i posted on GameFAQs, which you did originally admit until it became the base of all of your "speculation" for FP5 and you began claiming it as yours.
Because it has been so misused by you, i regret ever posting it back then. Just a quick thing to clear things up: If we get a new Namco rep for post-pass it's 100% going to be Heihachi. Lloyd does not represent anything and wasn't even worthy to be put in Pac-Man's Namco roulette taunt. We know Lloyd is also not going to be FP5, so it was not because of the reason that he was saved for later use. And as post-FP DLC wasn't a thing at first, it is obvious Lloyd is simply not importnt enough for anything and wasn't on Sakurai's mind to give him any representation and is just an echo-chamber pick. It's over. Tekken sold 2.5 times as much as Lloyd and Heihachi was already considered for Smash once, and like Ridley, Villager or PAc.Man has a chance to be reconsidered. Even if you and ForsakenM do not want to hear this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78143628
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1694#post-23649234
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1710#post-23651536

The “Tekken sold more than Tales” argument may not mean that much since Resident Evil is Capcom’s best selling franchise and yet here we are as spirits.

 

[SuperNintendoDisney]

Maybe it's because people outside of the echo chamber are in here for once.

Food for thought.

Yeah that’s funny, almost like a soft-raid, you think we are dumb bro? 2009 tactics

 

[Fatmanonice]

Also a friendly reminder to you and everyone else here that the "Power of 6" mii costume theory that you claim as yours was originally from me which i posted on GameFAQs, which you did originally admit until it became the base of all of your "speculation" for FP5 and you began claiming it as yours.
Because it has been so misused by you, i regret ever posting it back then. Just a quick thing to clear things up: If we get a new Namco rep for post-pass it's 100% going to be Heihachi. Lloyd does not represent anything and wasn't even worthy to be put in Pac-Man's Namco roulette taunt. We know Lloyd is also not going to be FP5, so it was not because of the reason that he was saved for later use. And as post-FP DLC wasn't a thing at first, it is obvious Lloyd is simply not importnt enough for anything and wasn't on Sakurai's mind to give him any representation and is just an echo-chamber pick. It's over. Tekken sold 2.5 times as much as Lloyd and Heihachi was already considered for Smash once, and like Ridley, Villager or PAc.Man has a chance to be reconsidered. Even if you and ForsakenM do not want to hear this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78143628
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1694#post-23649234
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1710#post-23651536

You literally showed that I credited the OP, yours. I don't see the issue. I never said it was mine and specifically mentioned that my thoughts deviated from it because I didn't believe it pointed to Heihachi.

 

[Spatulo]

...The **** just happened? Did you all join together for a coordinated effort to suddenly pile on Fatman? I mean, again, I haven’t believed his huge running “thank you” theory for even a second, but this all seems quite sudden. Any of you have any way to back up that “he was kicked out” claim?

I believe we are being “raided”, as the kids say.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

...The **** just happened? Did you all join together for a coordinated effort to suddenly pile on Fatman? I mean, again, I haven’t believed his huge running “thank you” theory for even a second, but this all seems quite surprising and sudden. Any of you have any way to back up that “he was kicked out” claim?

I don't know nor even agree with the previous two users. Draw a relationship between us if you want, but there isn't one.

I got linked here to Burb's post from the Newcomer Thread since some guy posted it there. I decided to pitch my thoughts since why not?

I can verify Burb's claim that a lot of people think Fatman is full of **** outside of here, and I can verify that he was kicked out. Can't say how I can verify it though, so you probably won't believe me.

Yeah that’s funny, almost like a soft-raid, you think we are dumb bro? 2009 tactics

Refer to the above about how I got here. No one's out to get you or this thread.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

I'd ignore this guy. He started a lot of geno related fights on the newcomer thread and is generally obstinate.

 

[Franco Geno]

I swear to god, i'm getting sick of this bullsh#t behavior of "you know what? let's sh#t on Fatmanonice because we don't have anything better to do with our lives!" please, if you're not going to contribute anything useful to this thread then just leave because what we least need in this place is people like you

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Lol at genuinely thinking that a handful of people voicing outside opinions for the first time because a rather major event happened in the thread means it is some sort of "raid" or "organized" effort. That's funny.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Well this sucks.

I've actually been told Fatman could be lying before, based on what the person knew, but I didn't want to believe it without evidence, just kept it in mind for a bit. He was just speculating, but it was based on insider stuff and Geno's chances. I still think Fatman is cool, though.

Also a friendly reminder to you and everyone else here that the "Power of 6" mii costume theory that you claim as yours was originally from me which i posted on GameFAQs, which you did originally admit until it became the base of all of your "speculation" for FP5 and you began claiming it as yours.
Because it has been so misused by you, i regret ever posting it back then. Just a quick thing to clear things up: If we get a new Namco rep for post-pass it's 100% going to be Heihachi. Lloyd does not represent anything and wasn't even worthy to be put in Pac-Man's Namco roulette taunt. We know Lloyd is also not going to be FP5, so it was not because of the reason that he was saved for later use. And as post-FP DLC wasn't a thing at first, it is obvious Lloyd is simply not importnt enough for anything and wasn't on Sakurai's mind to give him any representation and is just an echo-chamber pick. It's over. Tekken sold 2.5 times as much as Lloyd and Heihachi was already considered for Smash once, and like Ridley, Villager or PAc.Man has a chance to be reconsidered. Even if you and ForsakenM do not want to hear this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78143628
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1694#post-23649234
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1710#post-23651536

I don't recall him ever claiming it was his; he credited you, and in that second post of his you linked, he didn't say it was his. He listed it, but didn't claim it; I'm assuming you were mistaken by the theory he made right after it?

 

[Deleted member]

ily Fatmanonice

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Lol at genuinely thinking that a handful of people voicing outside opinions for the first time because a rather major event happened in the thread means it is some sort of "raid" or "organized" effort. That's funny.

I mean you can literally visit the newcomer thread and seeing everyone ****ting on him around the same time people came in here, so yeah.

 

[Just a random scrub]

......................

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I mean you can literally visit the newcomer thread and seeing everyone ****ting on him around the same time people came in here, so yeah.

1. Big Event Happens
2. People Read Event
3. People Decide to Comment upon the event for personal reasons

There is no part four here, it's nothing like the smear campaign you're pretending it is.

 

[cmbsfm]

When you decide to play insider, you put yourself in the crosshairs of the community. If you get something wrong, people are gonna call you out on it. You need to be prepared for this when you decide to play this game. Vergeben gets **** on in this thread all the time, yet everyone jumps to defend Fatman once someone calls him out on his questionable claims? It's very puzzling considering Fatman hasn't gotten anything right original to him yet Vergeben has.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

1. Big Event Happens
2. People Read Event
3. People Decide to Comment upon the event for personal reasons

There is no part four here, it's nothing like the smear campaign you're pretending it is.

This big event is just one guy **** talking fatman and then people jumping on a bandwagon.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I mean, I did kicked out but I didn't think it was anyone's business but the groups' but here we are. Supposedly it was for sharing the names of Lloyd, Sol, and Nightmare, but, once again, I had permission from Sabi and there were scores of witnesses.

This honestly just points to why I'm not looking for a way back in and didn't fight the decision. Like I said the other day, insider/leak culture is incredibly toxic and you have literal piles of evidence for it in the last two pages.

-An agreement made in private is now being blasted because...?

-There is literally a raid going on in this thread over it.

-I never made mention of the specific issues I had a beef with and don't intend to except in private.

This is literally case in point to why I "retired." I don't want back in and it was a decision I was debating for a long time anyways. This honestly just sped up things and I'm weirdly thankful for that. "Cancel" me if you want but I'll still be around, just like Krono and Paragon, so it simply is what it is.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok, I’m gonna be brave and say this right here no matter what happens:

Burb ... isn’t lying.

I used to be a pretty common Sabicord and Forest Maze Discord user until recent dramas with the people over there that made me say “**** it, they will never take me seriously” (ignoring minor exceptions and some mods who really are too good for those places).

I knew that Fatman was overhyping his stuff and claims all this time from words made by Sabi and other users... but I was too scared to say it right here since in the end I’m just a quite controversial user. Only Ovaltine heard my take on this through PMs.

Yes, the Black Bird stuff wasn’t real and Fatman has been twisting a lot of the stuff involving Sabi and Vergeben for a good while.


I was scared to say this... because this place does at times feel like the home I always wanted and didn’t want to make it my enemy.

 

[Spatulo]

When you decide to play insider, you put yourself in the crosshairs of the community. If you get something wrong, people are gonna call you out on it. You need to be prepared for this when you decide to play this game. Vergeben gets **** on in this thread all the time, yet everyone jumps to defend Fatman once someone calls him out on his questionable claims? It's very puzzling considering Fatman hasn't gotten anything right original to him yet Vergeben has.

There’s a difference between denying people’s claims and just being vile to them. I don’t think anyone here has purposely attacked Verge’s character. Verge is probably a perfectly nice guy to talk to and I don’t think any less of him even if he got news about a ****ing video game wrong once or twice.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

This fatman stuff seems awful ****ing suspicious if you ask me. Why are mob's of people coming after him? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

For me, it’s Geno.

 

[ColtonS25]

1. Big Event Happens
2. People Read Event
3. People Decide to Comment upon the event for personal reasons

There is no part four here, it's nothing like the smear campaign you're pretending it is.

Not really gonna comment on the whole situation since it doesn't seem appropriate for me to do so without being fully informed, but this seems about correct. I was keeping an eye on the Newcomer Support thread and it wasn't really some planned out "attack", it's just how it might have looked from an inside perspective. Hoping that whatever the truth is, people can accept it and just move on.

Also, Burb if I may, is there a reason that you talked about this openly now? Did you learn new info or was this just kinda a spur of the moment thing? No big deal if you don't want to answer, just figured I'd ask!

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Yeah it always bothered me how people kept giving Verge crap and still turn around to defend someone who has been more consistently wrong. The next reveal is in a week so I don’t care at this point though.

 

[Slime]

This thread was linked on another site, so you can't be surprised that people who don't normally post here are posting here now. In fact, I don't think that I've ever done anything aside from lurk on this forum.

Fatman himself just posted that he got kicked out of those circles despite him presenting it as his choice to retire earlier in this topic. If you want to look into the details of why that happened, it shouldn't be hard to do.

I'm not here to attack anyone or dogpile on this whole deal, but that's my opinion on it. Take it with a disclaimer that I don't think Fatman is an honest person and consider that a personal bias on my part if you must.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Burb said he purposely came in to stir ****. Sounds like a pretty trust worthy guy with our community in mind.

 

[MisterMike]

This is why I ****ing hate discord.

 

[Deleted member]

wew

In an alternate universe where Mischief Makers stayed relevant. Played that game to death as a kid.

Who needs relevance? I'd love Marina, but alas, she's an Enix character, and that actually puts her in direct competition with Geno.

 

[JudgeHeihachi]

I mean, I did kicked out but I didn't think it was anyone's business but the groups' but here we are. Supposedly it was for sharing the names of Lloyd, Sol, and Nightmare, but, once again, I had permission from Sabi and there were scores of witnesses.

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This honestly just points to why I'm not looking for a way back in and didn't fight the decision. Like I said the other day, insider/leak culture is incredibly toxic and you have literal piles of evidence for it in the last two pages.

-An agreement made in private is now being blasted because...?

-There is literally a raid going on in this thread over it.

-I never made mention of the specific issues I had a beef with and don't intend to except in private.

This is literally case in point to why I "retired." I don't want back in and it was a decision I was debating for a long time anyways. This honestly just sped up things and I'm weirdly thankful for that. "Cancel" me if you want but I'll still be around, just like Krono and Paragon, so it simply is what it is.

So yeah. One funny thing. You act like you are close to Sabi and said from your "inside sources" you would have heard the name Lloyd the most.
Funny thing is: Sabi said she never heard the name Llloyd or Tales in general fron any insider. Not even once! How come there is such a discrepancy? Only one ecxplanation; Everything you told was made up!
https://twitter.com/New_WabiSabi/status/1200512088885489664

 

[EarlTamm]

Figures that after a rather stressed day I find an even more stressed environment here.

Honestly, while I am one to want to know the full truth behind things, what is happening right now doesn't exactly feel like an attempt to do such a thing out of some sort of kindness. Rather, just a desire to tear someone down and watch what happens. Idk, I haven't exactly looked at what is going on in the newcomer thread as of now(I don't exactly have the right headspace because of my own personal stress), but it is not looking so good here. Probably gonna to focus on other things tonight.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

What's going on with this fatman?

 

[Deleted member]

Leak culture is an absolute cancer to the Smash community btw. It's pretty much ruined Smash speculation for me personally. With all due respect to guys like Sabi or Verge, we'd be better off without them.

Everything is just so goddamn toxic now and it's really sad.

 

[Deleted member]

Figures that after a rather stressed day I find an even more stressed environment here.

Honestly, while I am one to want to know the full truth behind things, what is happening right now doesn't exactly feel like an attempt to do such a thing out of some sort of kindness. Rather, just a desire to tear someone down and watch what happens. Idk, I haven't exactly looked at what is going on in the newcomer thread as of now(I don't exactly have the right headspace because of my own personal stress), but it is not looking so good here. Probably gonna to focus on other things tonight.

You really should.

I am honestly scared right now.

 

[RingJ5]

Ok, I’m gonna be brave and say this right here no matter what happens:

Burb ... isn’t lying.

I used to be a pretty common Sabicord and Forest Maze Discord user until recent dramas with the people over there that made me say “**** it, they will never take me seriously” (ignoring minor exceptions and some mods who really are too good for those places).

I knew that Fatman was overhyping his stuff and claims all this time from words made by Sabi and other users... but I was too scared to say it right here since in the end I’m just a quite controversial user. Only Ovaltine heard my take on this through PMs.

Yes, the Black Bird stuff wasn’t real and Fatman has been twisting a lot of the stuff involving Sabi and Vergeben for a good while.


I was scared to say this... because this place does at times feel like the home I always wanted and didn’t want to make it my enemy.

You have nothing to worry about, don’t worry. Telling an inconvenient truth is always more important than saying nothing to keep the status quo.

If you’re at liberty to share them, though, I would love to hear more details on the starling being fake, but I completely understand if you can’t.