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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Dynamic Worlok

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I know fatman said that the characters on the list weren't ones that were being talked about in articles. I just wanted to point out that geno hasn't seen any substantial article love since 2018.
viewtiful Joe confirmed!
 

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ArchRanger ArchRanger I also don’t see Steve as the WTF character considering Fatman was still on board with him being Banjo leakbait. Not totally out of the realm of possibility, but it’s probably not him
 

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Thanks for the update Fatmanonice! It's pretty cool that a number characters with longstanding, diehard fanbases are in the running for the next wave(s). If I had to guess on an end times character, I think it'd be Mach Rider. If this really is Sakurai's last rodeo, then Geno and Mach Rider stick out as the last couple characters that he couldn't quite add in prior games. Or, maybe we go allllll the way back into Nintendo's history and there's a character based off of Hanafuda Cards.
Or better yet, the card-using samurai dude from Nintendoji.
 
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Don't even start. We have literally no idea who it may be.
Hell Fatman may even be wrong and we're not getting what he's suggesting. I don't believe anyone knows about the Post-FP DLC so I think that's the most likely outcome.

Hopefully I'm wrong and we get the kind of characters he's suggesting but I doubt it.
 

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ArchRanger ArchRanger I also don’t see Steve as the WTF character considering Fatman was still on board with him being Banjo leakbait. Not totally out of the realm of possibility, but it’s probably not him
If Banjo was negotiated for in April last year, and Vergeben heard Minecraft content in May of last year, with Steve's name popping up in late August or early September then, would leakbait matter for Season 2 DLC?

but it feels weird to say Steve would be a Piranha Plant situation when he clearly wouldn't be.
 
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How the hell is "people wouldn't be surprised" an argument against a smash reveal at tga? The surprise isn't the fact that a character is revealed, it's what character it is. Were all the characters revealed at e3 or in Nintendo directs shocking venues? All that matters is that a huge audience will be watching. Who at Nintendo gives a **** whether or not people think smash will be there?
Hell, people were expecting Smash news at the Spring 2018 Direct...and Ultimate wasn't even announced at that point!

It doesn't matter what Nintendo does as there are people who automatically assume Smash is involved somehow. The only way to suprise fans is to NOT have any Smash news at an event.
 

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I think Dixie Kong, Impa, and Professor Layton can also be included in a list of fan requested characters that have been wanted for a long time that aren't heavily speculated about anymore.
 
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Don't even start. We have literally no idea who it may be.
They say that it's a character that sound like a joke and no one sure if they should believe it. All I'm saying is we don't need another, one is already pushing it... so it's going to be another one.
 

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Thanks for the update Fatmanonice! It's pretty cool that a number characters with longstanding, diehard fanbases are in the running for the next wave(s). If I had to guess on an end times character, I think it'd be Mach Rider. If this really is Sakurai's last rodeo, then Geno and Mach Rider stick out as the last couple characters that he couldn't quite add in prior games. Or, maybe we go allllll the way back into Nintendo's history and there's a character based off of Hanafuda Cards.
While I would love to see Mach Rider come to the game(And she would certainly be a good out of the blue pick with some history, both in games and smash), we should also take into account characters that were going to be Brawl and Smash 4.
 

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ROFLMAO OK, you win. Goku would be the PERFECT troll/pleasant surprise character. I honestly couldn't think of one until I saw this. Imagine Sakurai breaking his ONE unbreakable rule.

"No anime characters EVER! Video games only, you hear!?......and to end the DLC, I give you......GOKU! AHAHAHAHAHAHA"
They wouldn't get any more money from me until they went back to game characters.
 

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Just gonna throw out a random guess on this next character: Laura Croft from Tomb Raider - not because I want her or have played any of the games (which I haven't) but just an odd feeling I've been getting about this suggestion in as few places as I've seen it mentioned. This isn't me considering someone "Geno Tier" it's just a random guess for the sake of it.

Who do I want? Well Geno, of course...but if I had to go out even further I would choose Bill Rizer from Contra: an NES hero not many people seem to consider but would be cool going hand-in-hand with the Castlevania content we already have in the game.
 
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What is he suggesting, anyway, may I ask?
Y'know that we may get a lot of Fan Favorite characters/Well received characters post-FP including Geno and whatnot. Some of those fan favorite characters being Geno tier requests as well.

I do doubt that.
 
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ROFLMAO OK, you win. Goku would be the PERFECT troll/pleasant surprise character. I honestly couldn't think of one until I saw this. Imagine Sakurai breaking his ONE unbreakable rule.

"No anime characters EVER! Video games only, you hear!?......and to end the DLC, I give you......GOKU! AHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Gonna have to hard disagree on that one, chief.
 

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Sora hasn't even existed as long as Geno's been requested.
That’s the thing. Changing f rom “Banjo tier” to “Geno tier” doesn’t really help narrow it down at all considering it’s kind of the same description. Like I said, the only characters that seem as big in the Smash community as Banjo and Geno would be Isaac and Waluigi. But that’s just the way i’m thinking. IDK.
 
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Would that include any Nintendo/First party characters?
We don't know Fatman hasn't given any specific characters out just that we may get fan favorite characters like Geno and at the same tier as Geno.

Also maybe one or two curve-ball picks.
 
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We don't know Fatman hasn't given any specific characters out just that we may get fan favorite characters like Geno and at the same tier as Geno.
Well, I don't need any character names. I just would like to know if NIntendo or first party characters are included, not that I expect Fatmanonice to say that at all considering he may not be allowed to do so.
 

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Hell Fatman may even be wrong and we're not getting what he's suggesting. I don't believe anyone knows about the Post-FP DLC so I think that's the most likely outcome.

Hopefully I'm wrong and we get the kind of characters he's suggesting but I doubt it.
You're not wrong. Just because characters are talked about doesn't mean they'll happen. Case in point: Steve. Joker and Terry were virtually unknown too so someone not being mentioned isn't exactly a death sentence either.
 

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Sora hasn't even existed as long as Geno's been requested.
I don't know exactly when Geno support started, but I don't remember seeing it till Brawl. Sora support started during Brawl, but up until Cloud he was nothing more than an impossible dream to those who wanted him. I'm not sure Sora fits the bill based on the the info given. He's popular, yet totally unexpected due to his circumstances, and has had some mostly negative news presence with Hashimoto's dis-confirmation tweet, and then there's the recent stuff with Harada. Every point he has going for him is contradicted by another.
 

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I'm thinking Lloyd based on all the stuff that's been said the last few pages. We'll probably get someone no one asked for as #5, and then characters like Geno and Lloyd after that. "End-times" makes me think someone heavily associated with another console. Someone like Kratos or Master Chief
 
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That’s the thing. Changing f rom “Banjo tier” to “Geno tier” doesn’t really help narrow it down at all considering it’s kind of the same description. Like I said, the only characters that seem as big in the Smash community as Banjo and Geno would be Isaac and Waluigi. But that’s just the way i’m thinking. IDK.
Geno tier is a tier below Banjo because Geno isn't in the game yet. I also would be pretty tone deaf if I thought that Geno has more support than Banjo. Whether or not I wanted him doesn't change the fact that Banjo was extremely popular, especially with the Western crowd.

Anyway, it feels like people are really misinterpreting what Fatman said:
All the names I've heard may not be often requested but all signs right now point to the bonus characters being mostly on par with Banjo in terms of fanservice.
This doesn't imply that any single character is this under the radar sleeper hit who also happens to be as hype as Banjo, it implies that most of the characters are on par with being as hype as Banjo.
 

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There's also a lot of Steve videos showing popularity as well, with more popularity apparent on Twitter. He wouldn't be a "troll" character at all, not even close; he'd be like other characters people want.

I think a second Microsoft character could be in the next DLC season.

I really don't think Vergeben would know Minecraft stuff for Season 2 as far back as May last year, though, if it were to happen. We can probably throw the "leakbait" that has been discussed before out the window.

though I wouldn't mind if he was the troll character somehow.
I don’t use Twitter at all so I wouldn’t be aware about any discussion going on there. I just see that all the large Youtuber videos usually say one of the two things when discussing a MC character along with the Steve thread being one of the most inactive ones on this forum so it would fit the context of catching people off guard IMO.

Sora is a possibility, not sure if he’s been requested as long as Geno, though.

I disagree on Crash and Rex and Pyra. I remember Fatman saying that Crash (and Tracer) were off the table for most likely at least half a year, I think I remember him saying something like that, don’t expect him anytime soon. And Rex/Pyra as recent characters (and Rex got a Mii Costume which Fatman just said is most likely still a death sentence, so that falls into the AT/deconfirmation category)

And LOL, Doomslayer? I haven’t seen him highly requested until this DLC season tbh. Does not seem like a character “requested for a decade” akin to Geno
Whoops. For some reason I was thinking Rex was a SSB4 Mii customers, not in SSBU. Same with Doomslayer, was mixing up an older SSBU fan ballot as a SSB4 one. My bad lol. Looking into the fan ballots, I don’t think really see any characters on quite the level B&K and Geno are on. Even Lloyd is mostly isolated as a Japan only request but of course these things don’t represent the community as a whole and request on social networking sites like FB and Twitter may contain different results compared to the main polls.
 

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This is all good news for Geno and fans, so the only logical conclusion for good turn is that Fatman's evil twin, EvilFatman, took over his account to troll us and the next fighter is actually Egg Shell White Aloof Pit.
 

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This is all good news for Geno and fans, so the only logical conclusion for good turn is that Fatman's evil twin, EvilFatman, took over his account to troll us and the next fighter is actually Egg Shell White Aloof Pit.
Wrong, it's actually 12 kt. white gold plated Bob omb
 

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Geez, this getting really crazy in here...
I'll just say that Geno, Rayman, and Bandana Dee are really the only ones I could want to see in Smash... I feel Rayman fits the description Fatman gives but it's more wishful thinking than speculation on my end.

Fatmanonice Fatmanonice , I'm sure it's hard to keep it in but thank you. Can't wait to see who #5 and beyond is.
I think Rayman actually fits that description pretty accurately, but I am also liable of wishful thinking there.
 
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Actually that would be Skinnywomanonliquidhotmagma, just wanted to clarify.
SkinnyWomanOffMagma, thank you very much. Which confirms that fighter #5 is actually Platinum Sora wearing a Geno hat. Someone check on SSGuy.
 

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Man, this is all getting really exciting~
This is all good news for Geno and fans, so the only logical conclusion for good turn is that Fatman's evil twin, EvilFatman, took over his account to troll us and the next fighter is actually Egg Shell White Aloof Pit.
FatMan's evil twin: Obese Human Male Located Right Above Frozen Water
 

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holy **** look at all these guests
also we agree that Nov 1st s when Terry drops, right?
 
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holy **** look at all these guests
also we agree that Nov 1st s when Terry drops, right?
Not unless they just want to throw him out there with no presentation, assuming Sakurai can't even pay himself to set up a webcam and play the game for an empty room for Terry.

I don't think the spirit event means much of anything aside from the fact that it's the first they've planned since adding SNK to the game and therefore the copyright.
 

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People, I said 'Evil Twin,' not 'Bizzarro Universe Counterpart.'

EvilFatman is just Fatman with a goatee. Also, his most wanted puppet for Smash is named Carl.
 

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People, I said 'Evil Twin,' not 'Bizzarro Universe Counterpart.'

EvilFatman is just Fatman with a goatee. Also, his most wanted puppet for Smash is named Carl.
Naw, I think EvilFatman would have a red Bluto icon.
 
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Gonna have to hard disagree on that one, chief.
You're welcome to, tiger. But would you have a better idea of a "trolly yet pleasant surprise" character? Most of the video game choices I can think of fall almost exclusively in one category or the other.
 

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I don't know exactly when Geno support started, but I don't remember seeing it till Brawl.
There was talk of Geno for melee, but it was always shut down as impossible because of third party and that Nintendo and Square (barely Square-Enix) still weren't talking over the PlayStation/FF7 debacle.

Come Brawl era and SE was actually making games for Nintendo systems again so Geno was actually possible.
 

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Lol, 78 guests on this thread rn and people still like to tell me that “Fatmanonice has no inside connections” Sure....sure...
 
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There was talk of Geno for melee, but it was always shut down as impossible because of third party and that Nintendo and Square (barely Square-Enix) still weren't talking over the PlayStation/FF7 debacle.

Come Brawl era and SE was actually making games for Nintendo systems again so Geno was actually possible.
There's also the problem that Melee came out in 2001. I'd venture a guess that most of us in here right now had only just gotten reliable internet that didn't kick our parents off the phone around that time, or internet at all, depending on who you are.

If somehow it was 1998 and the internet was what it is now, and Nintendo advertised Super Smash Bros 64 and showed a few characters, there's no way we wouldn't be thinking Geno was a lock, it'd only been 3 years since Mario RPG.
 
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