Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Datboigeno]

Umm, it’s been far from immediate.

It’s the longest there has ever been with one of these leaks.

I just hope it’s not some sort of insider hoax that doesn’t pan out

I don’t mean this in a mean way but it seems like everyday you go through a public rollercoaster of emotions regarding Geno and news for SSBU. There are periods of time where nothing happens. There are times where rumors/hints take months to pan out. Accusing sabi’s source of lying or of it being a hoax one day and then being all-in on it being make or break for Geno isn’t productive. Geno has more going for him than the starling tease.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Now why didn't I think of that? That's genius.



At least concerning the SE side. Not many people seem to be in a hurry to support non-FF7 FF characters, and the Crono supporters have apparently given up, so that leaves us with Slime/some other DQ character, Sephiroth/Tifa and Neku as barriers to remove left. Sora is a "who even knows?" case, so he probably won't be a priority for the immediate future.

Really doubt Slime has any chance after Hero. He is basically a stage cameo, as well as showing up in the Hero trailer too.
Neku seems like a very random and a more Smash-niched pick that I'm not even sure SE even knows exists.
I think you are forgetting Nier Automata.
Outside of Sephiroth/Tifa and Sora, 2B is a also very real candidate for the spot in that list.

 

[ForsakenM]

Sora's in such a weird league all his own with Disney and all that I wouldn't even count him tbh. He and Geno are in totally different situations and wouldn't have much bearing on one another imo.

So I REALLY don't want to get back into any socio-political stuff, but when you bring up Disney and it's NOT an animated film...it kinda just happens that way.

To be brief, my ONLY worry is that maybe someone who would be in a position of power that Nintendo would have to negotiate with would be the next Rian Johnson or Kathleen Kennedy or even J&J from GoT who prioritize what THEY think is good and right over what fans want. I'm not sure Sora has anything crazy that his inclusion could bring that would upset fans and Disney is pretty loose on video games considering they can't get it right pretty much ever, but I still have that worry even if it's a bit nonsensical.

As for actually responding to the idea Duck Queen, as the above was just a sudden fear tangent, I DO in fact count Sora as a roadblock for Geno. Why?

Because the same people who would be involved as the face of SE for Geno to get in are the same ones that would have to be there for Sora. Sora is a bigger deal than Geno and the only issue that could possibly happen would be that Disney MIGHT not want Donald or Goofy in a game where people fight/not want those characters represented improperly...but this is where I look at you all and say this mofo Masahiro Sakurai who never fails to represent a character properly in Smash. This man will work so hard he injures himself to make sure a character is a perfect reflection of themselves and their series.

Have you ever noticed we never worry about how Geno will be represented? Have you ever noticed that Smash fans never worry about how the character will play hardly ever or how they will look or feel? Why is that? It's because Sakurai has shown time and again that he makes the character reflect perfectly. We get exactly what we would expect every time. All Sakurai has to do is show them the characters his team have made and then talk about what they find most important in the design process and Disney would be sold because they would know that Donald and Goofy would be properly represented, hell even Mickey.

Think about it! KH already has these Disney character fighting other characters. This means Disney already allows Donald, Goofy, and Mickey to take part in violence...both in attacking and being attacked, both in inflicting damage and taking damage. They've allowed for these characters to be knocked unconscious, death fake-outs, ACTUAL DEATHS, wield weapons and abilities and magic, cause elemental statuses to people, and to fight against people in a tournament. Hell, Donald flat-out kills Terra-nort with Zetaflare and then immediately dies passes out from exhaustion due to the incredible strain and use of his lifeforce! He hits him with a beam spell that absolutely destroys this man entirely like Perfect Cell getting hit by Father-Son Kamehameha! Mickey has this moment when Goofy gets a fake-out death in KH2 where he gets pissed and says, and I quote, "...They'll pay for this!" and throws of his jacket while brandishing his keyblade and looking like he's about to murk everyone and everything before charging into battle. Hell, in KH1 YOU STRAIGHT UP KILL MALEFICENT and she's brought back in KH2 via her broken witch powers, but you KILLED her! They let you kill a Disney villain!

Don't tell me that Sakurai couldn't do it, because you all know he could.

Dammit, I get myself excited about KH. *facepalm*

Spoiler: Video Proof Of Event, In Order Of Gameplay Appearance

https://youtu.be/nIwo5HAEQx8?t=183

https://youtu.be/NjcPItRt1Zw

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Really doubt Slime has any chance after Hero. He is basically a stage cameo, as well as showing up in the Hero trailer too.
Neku seems like a very random and a more Smash-niched pick that I'm not even sure SE even knows exists.
I think you are forgetting Nier Automata.
Outside of Sephiroth/Tifa and Sora, 2B is a also very real candidate for the spot in that list.

I meant after this game (Slime is definitely gonna have a following by Smash 6, that's for sure). Assuming Geno doesn't get in this time, at any rate.

Also, 2B hasn't had any Nintendo appearances yet, so I think she would need that courtesy before people seriously go all-in on backing her.

 

[MajoraMan28]

So I REALLY don't want to get back into any socio-political stuff, but when you bring up Disney and it's NOT an animated film...it kinda just happens that way.

To be brief, my ONLY worry is that maybe someone who would be in a position of power that Nintendo would have to negotiate with would be the next Rian Johnson or Kathleen Kennedy or even J&J from GoT who prioritize what THEY think is good and right over what fans want. I'm not sure Sora has anything crazy that his inclusion could bring that would upset fans and Disney is pretty loose on video games considering they can't get it right pretty much ever, but I still have that worry even if it's a bit nonsensical.

As for actually responding to the idea Duck Queen, as the above was just a sudden fear tangent, I DO in fact count Sora as a roadblock for Geno. Why?

Because the same people who would be involved as the face of SE for Geno to get in are the same ones that would have to be there for Sora. Sora is a bigger deal than Geno and the only issue that could possibly happen would be that Disney MIGHT not want Donald or Goofy in a game where people fight/not want those characters represented improperly...but this is where I look at you all and say this mofo Masahiro Sakurai who never fails to represent a character properly in Smash. This man will work so hard he injures himself to make sure a character is a perfect reflection of themselves and their series.

Have you ever noticed we never worry about how Geno will be represented? Have you ever noticed that Smash fans never worry about how the character will play hardly ever or how they will look or feel? Why is that? It's because Sakurai has shown time and again that he makes the character reflect perfectly. We get exactly what we would expect every time. All Sakurai has to do is show them the characters his team have made and then talk about what they find most important in the design process and Disney would be sold because they would know that Donald and Goofy would be properly represented, hell even Mickey.

Think about it! KH already has these Disney character fighting other characters. This means Disney already allows Donald, Goofy, and Mickey to take part in violence...both in attacking and being attacked, both in inflicting damage and taking damage. They've allowed for these characters to be knocked unconscious, death fake-outs, ACTUAL DEATHS, wield weapons and abilities and magic, cause elemental statuses to people, and to fight against people in a tournament. Hell, Donald flat-out kills Terra-nort with Zetaflare and then immediately dies passes out from exhaustion due to the incredible strain and use of his lifeforce! He hits him with a beam spell that absolutely destroys this man entirely like Perfect Cell getting hit by Father-Son Kamehameha! Mickey has this moment when Goofy gets a fake-out death in KH2 where he gets pissed and says, and I quote, "...They'll pay for this!" and throws of his jacket while brandishing his keyblade and looking like he's about to murk everyone and everything before charging into battle. Hell, in KH1 YOU STRAIGHT UP KILL MALEFICENT and she's brought back in KH2 via her broken witch powers, but you KILLED her! They let you kill a Disney villain!

Don't tell me that Sakurai couldn't do it, because you all know he could.

Dammit, I get myself excited about KH. *facepalm*

Spoiler: Video Proof Of Event, In Order Of Gameplay Appearance

https://youtu.be/nIwo5HAEQx8?t=183

https://youtu.be/NjcPItRt1Zw

Uhh
You do know that Sora appeared without any Disney character as a guest appearance before, right?

I meant after this game (Slime is definitely gonna have a following by Smash 6, that's for sure). Assuming Geno doesn't get in this time, at any rate.

Also, 2B hasn't had any Nintendo appearances yet, so I think she would need that courtesy before people seriously go all-in on backing her.

Ohhh, ok. Got it

Not having previous Nintendo appearances isn't really a roadblock, when said game could potentially come as a port at a later date. There are many people in this community supporting her, and Automata is a very popular game published by SE.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

The people who are concerned didn't even see the other pictures though

What other pictures? The only one for Geno's case is the Starling picture.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Not having previous Nintendo appearances isn't really a roadblock, when said game could potentially come as a port at a later date.

Right, but we don't even know that. For all we know, if there isn't an Automata port, nothing could be done with her by the time this DLC cycle ends, regardless of fan demand. Bayonetta is the only game IP Platinum did any ports for on Nintendo platforms so far, and they seem busy with other projects for the time being (including Bayo 3), so we may be waiting a long time.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Right, but we don't even know that. For all we know, if there isn't an Automata port, nothing could be done with her by the time this DLC cycle ends, regardless of fan demand. Bayonetta is the only game IP Platinum did any ports for on Nintendo platforms so far, and they seem busy with other projects for the time being (including Bayo 3), so we may be waiting a long time.

I agree that she is a character that relies completely on that chance for the future, but don't underestimate the amount of people rooting for her rn.
I already told you before the two most likely scenarios. I don't think 2B is even close to the same level, but I wouldn't count her out of the race. That counts for a ton of characters we love.

 

[Icewolff92]

I think the main obstacle facing dlc is that Square wants x% of the sales for Geno, and that value has always been higher than the y% that Nintendo is willing to offer Square. The main question, and thus the problem that needs solving, is how large the gap between those two are.

My assumption so far is that Nintendo hasn't been open to paying much, if anything, to have Geno in. I wouldn't be surprised that Nintendo super lowballed their offer last time and Square said, "sure...as a costume." It was late in the DLC for 4, plans for Ultimate were starting and they just accepted the deal as is.

I... could see that being the cause... I mean, if there was any other company (like say Microsoft, Capcom or dare I even say Konami,) Geno would probably been playable far earlier (just like Hero or Cloud for that matter)

 

[xpnc]

What other pictures? The only one for Geno's case is the Starling picture.

I mean the other pictures they're using to establish this "pattern" of x weeks between image and reveal. The people who are worried about this being a nothingburger weren't even around to speculate on the other images this source has posted and they're pretending like they're having a crisis of faith about him.

Umm, it’s been far from immediate.

It’s the longest there has ever been with one of these leaks.

I just hope it’s not some sort of insider hoax that doesn’t pan out

Some guy posting a picture of a bird is not an insider hoax. Star Fox Grand Prix was an insider hoax.

 

[wynn728]

I mean, DQ was seen as obscure in the West for years compared to the pants-wettingly popular Final Fantasy, so it's natural that not as much exploding would happen.

That being said, it's still boggling that nothing has happened still. We don't have a solid enough clue what forthcoming Ninty event Jon's hinting at (if he did hint anything at all). Did the info arrive to the sources too early? Was there an internal delay? Did the big guys catch on to the fact that they were being leaked? This is a weird situation all-around.

At least we have the Nindies to look forward to this month.

That post from Jon was probably in reference to Hero's showcase. If we're getting anything at all this month I really believe it would a Nintendo Direct that only focus on Astral Chain since they really want to advertise that game. I don't think we'll get DLC Fighter #4 until after Banjo's release. If anything I say we get Astral Chain Direct this month, and in September there's a Nintendo Direct that talks about other things and the release of Banjo and maybe (if we're lucky) they're show off DLC Fighter #4.

 

[Firox]

That post from Jon was probably in reference to Hero's showcase. If we're getting anything at all this month I really believe it would a Nintendo Direct that only focus on Astral Chain since they really want to advertise that game. I don't think we'll get DLC Fighter #4 until after Banjo's release. If anything I say we get Astral Chain Direct this month, and in September there's a Nintendo Direct that talks about other things and the release of Banjo and maybe (if we're lucky) they're show off DLC Fighter #4.

But how was a pic of a Starling on a roof even remotely applied to the Hero showcase? I don't see any connection. I agree that our chances of another DLC reveal are looking more slim by the day, but if anything, the only other thing I could see the starling hinting towards was the Three Houses release although that seems highly unlikely as well.

 

[Deleted member]

Masahiro Sakurai who never fails to represent a character properly in Smash.

Are you sure about that?

Spoiler

 

[xpnc]

Are you sure about that?

Not to mention almost the entire Smash 64 original 12 are god awful representations of what they actually do in their games

 

[Dynamic Worlok]

Umm, it’s been far from immediate.

It’s the longest there has ever been with one of these leaks.

I just hope it’s not some sort of insider hoax that doesn’t pan out

I trust fatman when he says that the insider isn't trolling us. We'll just have to be patient for now.

 

[Icewolff92]

But how was a pic of a Starling on a roof even remotely applied to the Hero showcase? I don't see any connection. I agree that our chances of another DLC reveal are looking more slim by the day, but if anything, the only other thing I could see the starling hinting towards was the Three Houses release although that seems highly unlikely as well.

The lack of Mii Costume or the ambasador got fooled

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I mean the other pictures they're using to establish this "pattern" of x weeks between image and reveal. The people who are worried about this being a nothingburger weren't even around to speculate on the other images this source has posted and they're pretending like they're having a crisis of faith about him.

Some guy posting a picture of a bird is not an insider hoax. Star Fox Grand Prix was an insider hoax.

Again I have to stress that this starling picture has taken more than 3 weeks which is past the expected amount of time for something to happen. This is now the longest a picture has gone without anything happening and I can understand if people are worried.

Now I don't agree with StarLight that it's an insider hoax due to the picture leaks he's gotten right. I'm just saying that people are allowed to be skeptical since even though this guy is staying anonymous to hide from Nintendo to keep his job, it does come with the drawbacks of people being unsure to even trust the guy and as far as I know, he never interacts with us.

I hope I have made myself clear because I feel like I've jumbled up my words a bit.

 

[Firox]

Not to mention almost the entire Smash 64 original 12 are god awful representations of what they actually do in their games

What are you talking about? Back then, all Link did in his games was flail his sword around and spam arrows and bombs. They even nailed his trademark spin slash. Kirby floated around, ate people and copied their power. What's not to represent? I mean, they had to add a lot of stuff to some of them so that they'd actually have a full moveset, but I think the only two characters that really drew a big WTF were Fox and Falcon. Falcon's entire moveset was based on a different character and for some totally inexplicable reason, Fox could go Super Saiyan. Other than that, I wouldn't say their representations were what you'd call "awful".

 

[FalconFire93]

Beetle Mania is a hidden mini game found within Super Mario RPG.

Do you remember what your highest score was?#OperationStarFallhttps://t.co/lpGiscKzGxhttps://t.co/FGSFMEXDHn pic.twitter.com/Z3NY261XTN

— Operation Starfall 🌠 SMRPG IS OUT‼️ (@opestarfall) August 8, 2019

I... I never knew about this.

The number of times I've played this game is in the double digits... Yet I NEVER knew about this.

I'm ashamed. Banish me from the thread, for I am fake news. The fakest of fans.

No but really, gotta do another play through now.

Did someone say, ‘Beatle’mania?

Spoiler: Spoiler

I’ll go home now...

In all seriousness, I’ve never heard of Beetle Mania until now.

 

[Datboigeno]

But how was a pic of a Starling on a roof even remotely applied to the Hero showcase? I don't see any connection. I agree that our chances of another DLC reveal are looking more slim by the day, but if anything, the only other thing I could see the starling hinting towards was the Three Houses release although that seems highly unlikely as well.

The guy specifically said it wasn't Three Houses.

 

[wynn728]

Masahiro Sakurai who never fails to represent a character properly in Smash. [/SPOILER]

Ganondorf moveset is nothing like how he is in the games.
Ness could never use PK Fire, PK Thunder, PK Magnet, and PK Starstrom in Earthbound.
Lucas can't use PK Fire, Freeze, Thunder, Magnet and Starstorm in Mother 3 as well.
Don't need to bring up Captain Falcon.
Luigi has some weird moves that he never uses like the missile.

Not everything that Sakurai has done has represented the characters properly in Smash Bros.

 

[Icewolff92]

The guy specifically said it wasn't Three Houses.

He said it was Smash related... That isn¨t scaling down a lot.

 

[JarBear]

In regards to the Starling photo, I am thinking this is the situation is he knows of the "plan" to release a direct or some news before the production gets started. As in, Nintendo doing "Ok, we are going to start working on the Direct for X (Starling Photo Hint)."

So instead of waiting to release the hint a few weeks before the release of the Direct/Video/announcement, he is showing it much earlier, ie the planning stage.

Fatman has touched on this, heck, even Sakurai has told us how much time it takes to make a direct. Many weeks to month or a little more than that.

At least that is what I am banking on. Maybe it is such a big announcement, especially for the group the intel is shared to, wanted to reveal it really early to build up anticipation?

 

[Firox]

The guy specifically said it wasn't Three Houses.

Oh. Great then. In that case, I have only two conclusions:

1) We've yet to see what the clue was about

or

2) The source got leak-baited, but since his hint was so vague, the Ninten-ja's couldn't catch him anyway.

 

[wynn728]

But how was a pic of a Starling on a roof even remotely applied to the Hero showcase? I don't see any connection. I agree that our chances of another DLC reveal are looking more slim by the day, but if anything, the only other thing I could see the starling hinting towards was the Three Houses release although that seems highly unlikely as well.

Maybe the Starling picture was meant for something else, it might not be related to Smash Bros. Maybe it's for something to be revealed later. Maybe it's for an update of a game. Maybe it's for a remake. Maybe it's for Smash Bros. Maybe it's for next week. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it's false info. Maybe it's super legit and Geno is in. Maybe it's was something that was already been revealed. Maybe it's Pokemon.

WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. It could mean anything and nothing all at the same time. I'm not hedging my bets that a Direct is happening anytime soon since someone posted a picture of a bird. Don't care if it's an extremely reliable leaker, I only believe it once Nintendo tweets out a Direct time.

 

[Icewolff92]

In regards to the Starling photo, I am thinking this is the situation is he knows of the "plan" to release a direct or some news before the production gets started. As in, Nintendo doing "Ok, we are going to start working on the Direct for X (Starling Photo Hint)."

So instead of waiting to release the hint a few weeks before the release of the Direct/Video/announcement, he is showing it much earlier, ie the planning stage.

Fatman has touched on this, heck, even Sakurai has told us how much time it takes to make a direct. Many weeks to month or a little more than that.

At least that is what I am banking on. Maybe it is such a big announcement, especially for the group the intel is shared to, wanted to reveal it really early to build up anticipation?

I get what you are saying... But no insider besides the NoA guy has spoken about something "starling related"... on top of it being 3 weeks since he posted it which is over the deadline on where his stuff gets revealed. I mean, there is more than one NoA ambassador out there or people deeper in... Have anyone considered that he (unless he was fooled) put the starling pic because of the lack of Mii Costume?

 

[Rohanx17]

I think there was some miscommunication from forsaken' s comment. I believe what he meant was that every time sakurai has been tasked with bringing someone to smash without a direct drawing point due to age or several iterations the finished product has rarely failed to please fans. Mega man, Pac man, ridely, krool, and now banjo have been lovingly crafted into polished and faithful recreations of their original designs and that was why he was trying to say by no one was ever concerned if geno would end up looking great after production. If i made any errors in this assumption feel free to correct me.

 

[Datboigeno]

He said it was Smash related... That isn¨t scaling down a lot.

He never said it was Smash related. He only said it wasn’t FE:TH related.

Oh. Great then. In that case, I have only two conclusions:

1) We've yet to see what the clue was about

or

2) The source got leak-baited, but since his hint was so vague, the Ninten-ja's couldn't catch him anyway.

I don’t know if you’ve seen what this guy leaks or what Fatmanonice had described but he literally somehow sees or just knows the stuff he hints about. It’s clearly a specific thing that hasn’t happened yet.

I get what you are saying... But no insider besides the NoA guy has spoken about something "starling related"... on top of it being 3 weeks since he posted it which is over the deadline on where his stuff gets revealed. I mean, there is more than one NoA ambassador out there or people deeper in... Have anyone considered that he (unless he was fooled) put the starling pic because of the lack of Mii Costume?

He leaks things before they happen and then says directly what they are. If it was mii costume he would’ve said so.

 

[T2by4]

Oh. Great then. In that case, I have only two conclusions:

1) We've yet to see what the clue was about

or

2) The source got leak-baited, but since his hint was so vague, the Ninten-ja's couldn't catch him anyway.

But how the heck is that the one guy is the only one that knows. It's been 4 weeks and not a single other leaker came out about what it could possibly be. This is what causes me to doubt it's geno at all. Geno would be huge news, and people would absolutely want to come out and be the first to spread the news.

 

[Icewolff92]

He never said it was Smash related. He only said it wasn’t FE:TH related.

I was fairly certain that it was Smash related... but oh well

 

[valkiriforce]

Has anyone considered that maybe this ambassador doesn't care about deadlines for images? Not to mention the hints he drops are typically done within a group of friends, of which it's only a matter of time before it goes beyond that group with other people posting and sharing the photo he's shared. I also recall it being said that he doesn't pull the trigger unless he's absolutely certain it relates to something coming (Link's Awakening, Banjo in Smash). Just hang tight and look for any coming signs from Nintendo for what it could be, but until then I highly doubt we're going to come any closer or further from knowing what the starling truly represents.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

I cant imagine being so full of yourself that you think your theories are more likely or reasonable than what an NOA AMBASSADOR with a perfect track record has to say.

Life isn’t a TV show, there isn’t a new episode every week. Actual insiders who are close to their companies are very careful with their information compared to “leakerjoe420” who gets information fourth hand and pretends to have daily updates.

He has stated that it specifically isn’t pokemon or fire emblem and has confirmed it hasn’t been shown yet.

Can we just sit back and enjoy the massive victory that was enjoyed nearly a week ago before trying to wrap up the fighter pass announcements before y’all start school?

 

[Glitch-EGamer]

I cant imagine being so full of yourself that you think your theories are more likely or reasonable than what an NOA AMBASSADOR with a perfect track record has to say.

Life isn’t a TV show, there isn’t a new episode every week. Actual insiders who are close to their companies are very careful with their information compared to “leakerjoe420” who gets information fourth hand and pretends to have daily updates.

He has stated that it specifically isn’t pokemon or fire emblem and has confirmed it hasn’t been shown yet.

Can we just sit back and enjoy the massive victory that was enjoyed nearly a week ago before trying to wrap up the fighter pass announcements before y’all start school?

I started school last week so... Lucky y'all?

 

[Icewolff92]

I cant imagine being so full of yourself that you think your theories are more likely or reasonable than what an NOA AMBASSADOR with a perfect track record has to say.

Everyone makes a misstake in their lifetime. Just because Spielberg is seen as the worlds best movie director doesn¨t mean he has some bad eggs on his resume.

 

[Slender]

But how the heck is that the one guy is the only one that knows. It's been 4 weeks and not a single other leaker came out about what it could possibly be. This is what causes me to doubt it's geno at all. Geno would be huge news, and people would absolutely want to come out and be the first to spread the news.

I was fairly certain that it was Smash related... but oh well

Hello all! There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding our feathery friend, so I would like to give yous a bit of a timeline to look at for it.

7/13/19 - The image is first sent out.
7/30/19 - It is repeated that the image is still a hint for... something.

Aaand that's it. That's all we know! And that's probably all we'll know until reveal. Unless another image gets sent our way, there isn't much we can do but speculate. On the topic of information, however, the process for this is a longer game of telephone than it seems.

It's not really Source > Us, it's more along the lines of Source > Source > Source ...> Us. There's no discernible or direct path of contact to make when it comes to "What does this mean?" or "When will this happen?" and I think that's the joy of speculation. We know what we know and everything else is out of our hands.

 

[ColtonS25]

Truthfully I doubt that Jon’s otterposting means anything at all (unless it WAS Hero). The dude just really likes otters outside of posting them to hint at news. They are adorable, so I can see where he’s coming from. But I don’t believe that every time we see a post relating to otters, that it means news is coming like we may end up thinking.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Truthfully I doubt that Jon’s otterposting means anything at all (unless it WAS Hero). The dude just really likes otters outside of posting them to hint at news. They are adorable, so I can see where he’s coming from. But I don’t believe that every time we see a post relating to otters, that it means news is coming like we may end up thinking.

Yeah, I guess it was one of those cases where he just posted otters for the sake of it. I still find it weird that he had a teasing tone in his EVO report though, even though nothing was shown in the finale. Was he as clueless as the rest of us in regards to that event and thought something would happen?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

who never fails to represent a THIRD PARTY character properly in Smash.

Sakurai does not fail to represent a third party character properly but it's hit or miss with First party characters.

 

[Ovaltine]

Sakurai does not fail to represent a third party character properly but it's hit or miss with First party characters.

It sounds to me like Sakurai being the common denominator in both situations means that he isn't the one at fault for any poor representation, but Nintendo themselves. Ganondorf was a very last minute addition in Melee, for example, but what if Nintendo really wanted to push him in there and Sakurai had to rush him, therefore making him a Falcon clone? There's a lot that we don't know about the process of Melee's development and likely never will know, let alone any other Smash game. If he has no problems with third parties and has issues with first parties, then that sounds like a consistently Nintendo problem.

 

[Icewolff92]

Hello all! There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding our feathery friend, so I would like to give yous a bit of a timeline to look at for it.

7/13/19 - The image is first sent out.
7/30/19 - It is repeated that the image is still a hint for... something.

Aaand that's it. That's all we know! And that's probably all we'll know until reveal. Unless another image gets sent our way, there isn't much we can do but speculate. On the topic of information, however, the process for this is a longer game of telephone than it seems.

It's not really Source > Us, it's more along the lines of Source > Source > Source ...> Us. There's no discernible or direct path of contact to make when it comes to "What does this mean?" or "When will this happen?" and I think that's the joy of speculation. We know what we know and everything else is out of our hands.

Still doesn¨t change the fact that no one except him has made a hint towards something and it has been far longer than his usual schedule.

Vergeben new Simon months in advance. He knew that Ken would be apart of the roster 2 months in advance. He knew that a Pokemon (which we now know is Incineroar) months in Advance, and so with Isabelle. He knew about Hero (although only as "a square character then") back in August. So this Ambassador isn¨t the only one able to get info months in advance. Heck we have that "Affleck leak" about Pokemon, which was leaked months in advance.

What I¨m trying to say that with the outside of the lack of the Geno costume, nothing of "value" hasn¨t really happen recently, and it's only the Ambassador source is the only one that has said, "something" (if at all). There is a reason why people are so skeptical right now. Unless it was about lack of Mii Costume... yeah you get my point