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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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I don't think genres are an issue. That could come off as a fan made quota theory, and Ultimate has done a great job in smashing fan theories (too big, irrelevant, competitor character, dead series, licensing hell, etc).

Also, technically 4's DLC had 5 out of 7 characters from RPGs. So its not impossible for the pass to be RPG heavy. That's also the side effect of Square taking so long to play nice. Many fan favorites are tied to them to some degree.

Plus, the Smash fanbase will complain about anything. People act like Banjo being added is flooding smash in 90s nostalgia, despite only having 2 other 90s characters.
Well regardless saying that because Nintendo took down Banjo songs during November/December was a hint since Banjo actually made it in so same applies to Geno is false. There were a lot of random fan made songs that Nintendo took down during that time and I doubt that them taking down Megalovania during that time means that Undertale is getting into Smash Bros as well.
 

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What are the chances you guys think some troll had anything to do with the Mario RPG songs being removed from BrawlBRSTMs3 X's Youtube channel?
I think BrawlBRSTMs himself said Nintendo was manually going through his videos and just warning him rather than striking him, so idk.

As for earlier talk, while I’d love Geno and Sans in Smash, yes the Megalovania and Final Battle fan remixes that were taken down were on channels that leaked music as was a Beware the Forest’s Mushrooms mix, so it was just Nintendo taking everything “Smash” down on their channels before they finally decided to nuke them.
 
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I think BrawlBRSTMs himself said Nintendo was manually going through his videos and just warning him rather than striking him, so idk.

As for earlier talk, while I’d love Geno and Sans in Smash, yes the Megalovania and Final Battle fan remixes that were taken down were on channels that leaked music as was a Beware the Forest’s Mushrooms mix, so it was just Nintendo taking everything “Smash” down on their channels before they finally decided to nuke them.
I just think a troll reporting to the copyright owners would do this at a time where Geno hype is kind of high. If some troll went out of their why to fool us all with the Grinch leak, than I could totally somebody trying to attempt this or something crazier.
 

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I just think a troll reporting to the copyright owners would do this at a time where Geno hype is kind of high. If some troll went out of their why to fool us all with the Grinch leak, than I could totally somebody trying to attempt this or something crazier.
Possibly, but Nintendo has been doing this to BrawlBRSTMs for a while now. It could be a troll, it could be an employee just going through some videos and claiming everything “Mario” while missing some, idk.
 

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Question, and I am sorry if this has been talked about already, but does YouTube's new policy factor into this?
 

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I just think a troll reporting to the copyright owners would do this at a time where Geno hype is kind of high. If some troll went out of their why to fool us all with the Grinch leak, than I could totally somebody trying to attempt this or something crazier.
Nah, Geno hype's actually pretty low right now. Most people (including a good number of his supporters) are considering him deconfirmed/Mii Costume'd with the advent of Hero. If someone were to do something like this just for ****s and giggles, a better time would've been during the base game when people generally felt Geno had a chance, especially during the height of the Grinch hoax.
 
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Nah, Geno hype's actually pretty low right now. Most people (including a good amount of his supporters) are considering him deconfirmed/Mii Costume'd with the advent of Hero.
But still, those Mario RPG songs being removed from BrawlBRSTMs3's Youtube channel has hyped up some Geno fans and if some troll did reported, than they obviously knew people would get excited because of that.
 
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But still, those Mario RPG songs being removed from BrawlBRSTMs3's Youtube channel has hyped up some Geno fans and if some troll did reported, than they obviously knew people would get excited because of that.
I don't know if it was a troll that may have been their objective but I've seen more Geno fans brush this thing off than not. Just look at this thread for example almost all of us are brushing this off despite it seeming like a good thing for our character. I doubt it's a troll if anything I just think it's a simple mistake from Nintendo's part.

Could a troll do this? Sure but I doubt the timing would line up for such a thing.
 

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I don't know if it was a troll that may have been their objective but I've seen more Geno fans brush this thing off than not. Just look at this thread for example almost all of us are brushing this off despite it seeming like a good thing for our character. I doubt it's a troll if anything I just think it's a simple mistake from Nintendo's part.

Could a troll do this? Sure but I doubt the timing would line up for such a thing.
Honestly, I think trolls will do anything for attention even if they can't get everybody on the hook on their trick.
 

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I mean, most trolls aren’t playing 4D chess to get the maximum rise out of people. They’re mostly happy to take anything they can get and laugh at the absurdity of people taking their behavior in a serious manner.

It’s more than reasonable to expect a troll to do something like this even if they didn’t in this instance. That’s what they do, they’re trolls.
 

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I mean, most trolls aren’t playing 4D chess to get the maximum rise out of people. They’re mostly happy to take anything they can get and laugh at the absurdity of people taking their behavior in a serious manner.

It’s more than reasonable to expect a troll to do something like this even if they didn’t in this instance. That’s what they do, they’re trolls.
I wouldn't even call it 4D chess it's simply waiting for the right time to troll and get a bigger reaction out of people which now wouldn't be a good time for cause everyone is so down in the dumps about Geno's chances but either way you're probably right.
 
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Sabi's Nintendo source dropped one of his cryptic picture hints last night but we're trying to get him to tell us if it's Smash related before I consider sharing it here. Last time he did this it was more or less his confirmation to us that Banjo was coming but I'm trying to be level headed as not to slam the THIS IS NOT A DRILL button too soon.
 
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Sabi's Nintendo source dropped one of his cryptic picture hints last night but we're trying to get him to tell us if it's Smash related before I consider sharing it here. Last time he did this it was more or less his confirmation to us that Banjo was coming but I'm trying to be level headed as not to slam the THIS IS NOT A DRILL button too soon.
Well if you don't mind answering this question is it a "THIS IS NOT A DRILL" as in it's a good thing or as in it's a bad thing? Of course if you can't say then that's absolutely fine too.
 

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Well if you don't mind answering this question is it a "THIS IS NOT A DRILL" as in it's a good thing or as in it's a bad thing? Of course if you can't say then that's absolutely fine too.
It's so vague that I have no idea. Most of his picture hints are so esoteric that it can be hard to determine. Again, we're trying to get him to respond to us but I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to troll us by going silent the rest of the day. Either way, he knows something Nintendo related and is hinting at something of interest.
 

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Sabi's Nintendo source dropped one of his cryptic picture hints last night but we're trying to get him to tell us if it's Smash related before I consider sharing it here. Last time he did this it was more or less his confirmation to us that Banjo was coming but I'm trying to be level headed as not to slam the THIS IS NOT A DRILL button too soon.
Oh? Is said cryptic image one that can be posted here?
 

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If it winds up being Smash related I will but it may take awhile, even a few days, before he we can get him to respond to our questions.
I won't share it, would you be willing to send me the image?
 

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Fatman, if you're implying what I think you're implying with your tone of messages here...

All I'm gonna ask is this: Do you think it's related to Geno or SMRPG or not? Smash or not doesn't matter. Is it something there, or are you playing with my heartstrings here?
 

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Fatman, if you're implying what I think you're implying with your tone of messages here...

All I'm gonna ask is this: Do you think it's related to Geno or SMRPG or not? Smash or not doesn't matter. Is it something there, or are you playing with my heartstrings here?
You know me. When it comes to Geno I can do 20 Degrees of Kevin Bacon all day but I also don't want to get people riled up if it's not even Smash related. He just sort of dropped it out of nowhere while several people were talking about the weird music mystery currently going on and bounced. That said, I'm still confident that Hero's probably coming this week but I have no idea if this latest hint relates to that at all.
 

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Currently at work. Has anything been going on? Also congrats to TerminalMontage TerminalMontage for #1 trending! That is awesome!

EDIT: Oh...just caught up. I hope we can see this, but I absolutely understand if it can not be shown yet. Better 100% certain than not.
 
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I'm waiting on a response because, believe me, it kind of stopped the conversation dead last night but I'm also trying not to be too annoying about it. According to Sabi, sometimes he does just drop hints and then disappears for awhile so I may not get any clarification at all.
 
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You know me. When it comes to Geno I can do 20 Degrees of Kevin Bacon all day but I also don't want to get people riled up if it's not even Smash related. He just sort of dropped it out of nowhere while several people were talking about the weird music mystery currently going on and bounced. That said, I'm still confident that Hero's probably coming this week but I have no idea if this latest hint relates to that at all.
Is it a star, does it have any relation to Geno? Is it even worth bringing up in a Geno thread?

Edit: this was posted right after you replied, apologies
 
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Patience is a virtue, as they say. Whatever this is, time will tell. Also, Thank you Fatmanonice Fatmanonice for being level headed on this one. If it's what I think we all feel it is...then patience is needed.
 

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Is it a star, does it have any relation to Geno? Is it even worth bringing up in a Geno thread?

Edit: this was posted right after you replied, apologies
It's okay. I bring things here first because this is basically my Smash home and has been for nearly 15 years and, as far as I'm concerned, you all are kin so when something potentially spicy comes out of the proverbial oven, I want you all to know first. As I've talked about in the past, this is coming from the big Nintendo source that has yet to be wrong about anything they've shared with confidence. They also like to be cryptic so sometimes it's not straightforward. He knew about New Horizons, Mario Maker 2, Breath of the Wild 2, Link's Awakening, etc a considerable amount of time before they were announced. He told us about Joker's release date an hour before it was announced. This guy's as solid as you can get but he's also super careful.
 

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Fatmanonice Fatmanonice Genuine question here; I've noticed you have a tendency to present some vague information you've learned (Usually through Sabi) as a potential hint towards something, but then you don't really give much more than that and sort of dodge around being too definitive with it or giving more specifics. I understand you're potentially working with sensitive information that might be problematic if it got out without prior assurances, but why make a mention of "having information" before actually going properly "public" with any of it? Wouldn't it be better just to wait until you had discussed with Sabi and whoever else and then dropping the picture when you get the all clear instead of riling people up before hand with the whole "something"?
 

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I dont want to have hope... not to be crushed again.
 

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Honestly, yes, but what fun would that be? I like the intrigue of it and sometimes there are false alarms. Sabi's main Nintendo source is a straight shooter though and when he drops hints, it always means something. Plus, this guy has pretty much been by far the most reliable source this whole speculation cycle so it's kind of hard to be totally reserved about it. I also don't like to keep info to myself unless I'm just straight up told I can't share it because I just kind of lucked out getting in this circle anyways. I mean, my hints a few months ago about Banjo ultimately wound up being right though some of the aspects around them are still TBD. This could be a similar case which is why I'm waiting on clarification before going more into it.
 

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I think a Smash direct is heading our way. Our friend fatmanonice seems confident that Hero is coming out this week, and gx jon is posting otters. Maybe I'm being too hopeful.
 

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I'm being honest here, even if this amounts to nothing I'm still just glad the thread has some blood pumping into it.
 

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Honestly, yes, but what fun would that be? I like the intrigue of it and sometimes there are false alarms. Sabi's main Nintendo source is a straight shooter though and when he drops hints, it always means something. Plus, this guy has pretty much been by far the most reliable source this whole speculation cycle so it's kind of hard to be totally reserved about it. I also don't like to keep info to myself unless I'm just straight up told I can't share it because I just kind of lucked out getting in this circle anyways. I mean, my hints a few months ago about Banjo ultimately wound up being right though some of the aspects around them are still TBD. This could be a similar case which is why I'm waiting on clarification before going more into it.
You can have all the fun you want, but outside this thread your reputation is slowly becoming less credible for a tendency to jump the gun with little to show, or statements that have to be walked back, ultimately discouraging them from playing into the guessing game...

Maybe it won't ever bleed into this thread, but then again, maybe it will. Maybe it has.

Even you have to acknowledge that saying "a picture was posted" gives absolutely no information whatsoever, and just kind of forces people to aimlessly run in circles. It's kinda manipulative.
 

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Honestly, yes, but what fun would that be? I like the intrigue of it and sometimes there are false alarms. Sabi's main Nintendo source is a straight shooter though and when he drops hints, it always means something. Plus, this guy has pretty much been by far the most reliable source this whole speculation cycle so it's kind of hard to be totally reserved about it. I also don't like to keep info to myself unless I'm just straight up told I can't share it because I just kind of lucked out getting in this circle anyways. I mean, my hints a few months ago about Banjo ultimately wound up being right though some of the aspects around them are still TBD. This could be a similar case which is why I'm waiting on clarification before going more into it.
Is this the guy who said he heard Geno was going to be DLC forever ago? And knew Isaac was going to be an AT?
 

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You can have all the fun you want, but outside this thread your reputation is slowly becoming less credible for a tendency to jump the gun with little to show, or statements that have to be walked back, ultimately discouraging them from playing into the guessing game...

Maybe it won't ever bleed into this thread, but then again, maybe it will. Maybe it has.

Even you have to acknowledge that saying "a picture was posted" gives absolutely no information whatsoever, and just kind of forces people to aimlessly run in circles. It's kinda manipulative.
It's not that I don't understand your viewpoint, but I feel that's putting too much responsibility on fatman when at the end of the day he's just another speculating fan like the rest of us.
 

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In general, legitimate leakers have had their reputation damaged now thanks to the mess-ups Verge's sources have done. If he hadn't jumped on the "Banjo is coming" train, no one would ever take him seriously again. It's not just shooting the messenger anymore, but outright launching a nuclear missile at them.

I think a Smash direct is heading our way. Our friend fatmanonice seems confident that Hero is coming out this week, and gx jon is posting otters. Maybe I'm being too hopeful.
Eh, most people assume Hero's coming earlier than expected. Wait...

and gx jon is posting otters

You might be on to something with this. Even if it's a bed sheet of them this time.
 
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N3ON N3ON And what reputation do I have aside from being a dottering Geno nut who overthinks everything? I could get hit by a bus and nobody here would ever know. I'm not an icon. I don't do streams. I don't make videos. I don't create anything aside from posts. My competitive record is secluded to a "wow, who cares" part of the Midwest. I'm like one of the five Millennials that doesn't even have a Twitter or Instagram account. I'm a nobody and I say this time and time again. To repeat what I said a few weeks ago, I just share things that I'm allowed to share from people who actually matter. It's stuff to talk about. It's interesting. My overall relevance to the Smash community is an ant fart dispersed by a ceiling fan. Yes, I'm kind of a garbage human being but that's not exactly a stunning revelation. Just trying to keep conversations interesting.
 

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It's not that I don't understand your viewpoint, but I feel that's putting too much responsibility on fatman when at the end of the day he's just another speculating fan like the rest of us.
I understand your viewpoint, but if a someone on a different site were doing this, with a history of half-baked info, they probably wouldn't be given the time of day here anymore. At least not until they clarified a bit more. I guess it's just lucky for fatman that this thread still cuts him this much slack (though it's not surprising).

But, I mean, if people are ok with hearing the grand revelation of "Nintendo is doing something", for some reason get their hopes up for Geno, and then inevitably have those hopes dashed... or really, do anything other than say "let us know when you hear more", well there's some questionable thought process at play, but all the power to them.

I can understand getting worked up when there's something tangible to work with, or additional info, but this is actually nothing... we don't even know what the picture is. Me personally, I think getting the fanbase spinning its wheels over nothing is, even with the best intentions, a bit... arch.

Keep in mind, people were getting mad when Vergeben wouldn't even narrow down the Pokemon character.
 
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