Genesis Brawl Grand Finals

[Sushi-Man]

While I'm not trying to belittle Ally's victory, m2k didn't play very good in these sets. He made faaaar too many mistakes

 

[tibs7]

ally's tech chase won him the sets. he is 2g.
grenades were 2g as well.

 

[AvariceX]

Everyone stop johning for M2K. It makes you look really stupid, especially when M2K admitted in the Genesis results thread that Ally is better than him now. If he's not johning there's definitely no reason for you to john for him.

Ally reads everyone so well he makes anyone he plays look really bad.

 

[smasher01]

Everyone stop johning for M2K. It makes you look really stupid, especially when M2K admitted in the Genesis results thread that Ally is better than him now. If he's not johning there's definitely no reason for you to john for him.

Ally reads everyone so well he makes anyone he plays look really bad.

lol on the last thing you said ally looks really predictable in close range i would of mindgamed the hell out of his dodges.
but besides the dodges and stuff idk

 

[Staco]

A tip for M2K - Use moar Up-B. It really is something that most MKs forget about but Shuttle Loop spam is really hard to counter (If done correct). MK can blow grenades up with it without getting hit.

Doesnt work, its so easy to counter Up B Spam.

Ally isnt predictable, spot dodges arent that easy to read!
Espeacally, if you have got 2 granads and one mortar around you.


If someone from you guys goes to EVO pls tell M2K to start playing deffensive!
Tell him to make the first damage and then camping the **** out of him!

 

[Praxis]

Winners Finals was so much better. M2K was playing soooo off :/

Hey, upload my match with DMG! I know it was on your Wii, FOX16 D:

 

[xDD-Master]

Everyone stop johning for M2K. It makes you look really stupid, especially when M2K admitted in the Genesis results thread that Ally is better than him now. If he's not johning there's definitely no reason for you to john for him.

Ally reads everyone so well he makes anyone he plays look really bad.

No.

He did many mistakes, just look at his SDs. Also he was too offensive like Staco already said. But I still think he should use more Up-B Staco I would try it against you, but as far as I know you, you would just john with wifi when it works xD

 

[Staco]

I also wouldnt get hit by it wifi.
But its easier to punish offline.

And M2K really made some bad mistakes. But he didnt loose only because of these.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Praxis, don't try to influence these people by saying M2k played worse. Trying to explain M2k's loss as someone on the pro ban side really doesn't help you.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

it sounds like your asking him to leave out information. A lot of things happened to M2K that could have caused him to play bad durring grand finals and everyone who kept up knows that.

Of course it would be better if someone would just upload winners finals because then everyone can decided for them selfs.

 

[Praxis]

Jumpman, implying that I'm saying this as a pro banner is, frankly, insulting.

You weren't there. Everyone in the room was trying to tell Mew2King to calm down, and there was only silence as Mew2King gave up on the last match, no fanfare for Ally. It was frustrating to watch and everyone felt bad for Jason.

Winners finals was a representative top-level Snake vs MK match. Grand was not. M2K was either stressed out or hyped on the Monster energy drink he drank- he was NOT playing the same.

 

[HomeMadeWaffles]

hey

well we left the recorder on

and i somehow have ally vs m2k? winners finals on my laptop

also i have m2k fiction vs havok mikehaze

and i could have ally vs tyrant but cant tell cuz all the mk use the same color so yea

can anyone help lol

cuz i dont know who is playing hahaha

or how important it is hahaha

 

[Overswarm]

hey

well we left the recorder on

and i somehow have ally vs m2k? winners finals on my laptop

also i have m2k fiction vs havok mikehaze

and i could have ally vs tyrant but cant tell cuz all the mk use the same color so yea

can anyone help lol

cuz i dont know who is playing hahaha

or how important it is hahaha

Upload them all.

 

[Praxis]

hey

well we left the recorder on

and i somehow have ally vs m2k? winners finals on my laptop

also i have m2k fiction vs havok mikehaze

and i could have ally vs tyrant but cant tell cuz all the mk use the same color so yea

can anyone help lol

cuz i dont know who is playing hahaha

or how important it is hahaha

Hey, were you the dude with the camera hooked up to the TV on day two?

Please please please tell me you got Praxis vs Hylian recorded :o it was a $20 MM. Peach vs G&W. Hylian's tag was AdapT.

 

[HomeMadeWaffles]

nah man that wasnt me, sorry

 

[kr3wman]

Did someone just say he could beat Ally in here?

My Bull**** meter is off the chart.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

yah waffles just upload them all and if someone notices you labeled it wrong they'll probably just comment on it.

 

[Staco]

Jumpman, implying that I'm saying this as a pro banner is, frankly, insulting.

You weren't there. Everyone in the room was trying to tell Mew2King to calm down, and there was only silence as Mew2King gave up on the last match, no fanfare for Ally. It was frustrating to watch and everyone felt bad for Jason.

Winners finals was a representative top-level Snake vs MK match. Grand was not. M2K was either stressed out or hyped on the Monster energy drink he drank- he was NOT playing the same.

Did you also got some tyrant johns for his loose vs. Ally?
Sorry, but nobody can take your post serious since you try to influence people to ban MK in every of your post about MK stuff.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

No.

He did many mistakes, just look at his SDs. Also he was too offensive like Staco already said. But I still think he should use more Up-B Staco I would try it against you, but as far as I know you, you would just john with wifi when it works xD

Shuttle Loop is one of the easiest moves to punish. Especially for Snake. Shield -> utilt = get ***** SL.

Jumpman, implying that I'm saying this as a pro banner is, frankly, insulting.

You weren't there. Everyone in the room was trying to tell Mew2King to calm down, and there was only silence as Mew2King gave up on the last match, no fanfare for Ally. It was frustrating to watch and everyone felt bad for Jason.

Winners finals was a representative top-level Snake vs MK match. Grand was not. M2K was either stressed out or hyped on the Monster energy drink he drank- he was NOT playing the same.

You're extremly biased, idc if it's insulting. All of your posts are retardedly biased against MK to an unreasonable extent. Get over it. MK doesn't **** Snake, if you still think that way you need to get your facts straight.

As soon as MK loses to a Snake you have some pathetic john. Nevermind the fact that Candy knocked out Dojo @ Apex, that Anti knocked out Ksizzle @ Apex, that Ally knocked out M2K @Apex, that Razer kncoked out Dojo @FS6, that Ally knocked out Tyrant and M2K @ Genesis and that HRnut put teh_spamerer into losers bracket @ CoT4.
And all you are able to bring up is "stress or an energy drink"? That's massive fail right there.

Keep on writing garbage posts like these and even less people will take you seriously.

Good ****, Ally.

 

[Zankoku]

Mew2King certainly wasn't playing his best during the grand finals, though he was definitely trying his hardest.

 

[Vlade]

You can't expect Mew2king to be playing his best ALL the time, that's just not possible.

Ankoku summed it up perfectly

 

[Praxis]

Did you also got some tyrant johns for his loose vs. Ally?
Sorry, but nobody can take your post serious since you try to influence people to ban MK in every of your post about MK stuff.

Wow, what?

Tyrant lost legit :/ All I said was that M2K was freaking out during grand finals and it wasn't a representative set.

You're extremly biased, idc if it's insulting. All of your posts are retardedly biased against MK to an unreasonable extent. Get over it. MK doesn't **** Snake, if you still think that way you need to get your facts straight.

...I've never claimed MK ***** Snake?

As soon as MK loses to a Snake you have some pathetic john. Nevermind the fact that Candy knocked out Dojo @ Apex, that Anti knocked out Ksizzle @ Apex, that Ally knocked out M2K @Apex, that Razer kncoked out Dojo @FS6, that Ally knocked out Tyrant and M2K @ Genesis and that HRnut put teh_spamerer into losers bracket @ CoT4.

I've never talked about these matches either.

Frankly, you're being an idiot. You're reading a bazillion things into a simple EYEWITNESS STATEMENT. Mew2King was spasming, frustrated, and freakout out, after drinking a monster and having just woken up, and everyone in the room was trying to tell him to calm down. I was in the room.

How is this a pathetic john? I talked about the one match. I've never even talked about any of these others you're bringing up, nor did I mention MK vs Snake's matchup ratio. You're just making up a bunch of crap. >_>

I've made like, one thread on MK in the last two months in Tactical. And I haven't posted in the MK ban thread in over three months. Where is this coming from?

EDIT: I didn't even talk about the MK ban in this thread! In fact I have made only one post on MK in Tactical since MAY (I just confirmed via a search) on the topic of the Metaknight ban, and have only discussed it on the Back Room, which you shouldn't be reading...right?

 

[xDD-Master]

Shuttle Loop is one of the easiest moves to punish. Especially for Snake. Shield -> utilt = get ***** SL.

Then the MK is doing it wrong <,<

There is no reason to shuttle loop a shielding Snake lol

 

[SOVAman]

Wow, what?

Tyrant lost legit :/ All I said was that M2K was freaking out during grand finals and it wasn't a representative set.



...I've never claimed MK ***** Snake?



I've never talked about these matches either.

Frankly, you're being an idiot. You're reading a bazillion things into a simple EYEWITNESS STATEMENT. Mew2King was spasming, frustrated, and freakout out, after drinking a monster and having just woken up, and everyone in the room was trying to tell him to calm down. I was in the room.

How is this a pathetic john? I talked about the one match. I've never even talked about any of these others you're bringing up, nor did I mention MK vs Snake's matchup ratio. You're just making up a bunch of crap. >_>

I've made like, one thread on MK in the last two months in Tactical. And I haven't posted in the MK ban thread in over three months. Where is this coming from?

EDIT: I didn't even talk about the MK ban in this thread! In fact I have made only one post on MK in Tactical since MAY (I just confirmed via a search) on the topic of the Metaknight ban, and have only discussed it on the Back Room, which you shouldn't be reading...right?

you mad

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Even if you didn't create a thread about MK in 3 months your posts are still full of bias. You CONSTANTLY post stuff like "fiction/justin wong/whoever thinks he should be banned", and you wrote a full paragraph about it in the "tourney play 2" result thread. Every garabage discovery (like side B ledge cancel) has potential to you (even when it's completely useless/known) if it makes MK look broken.
I also some of your posts on AiB, where you spread misinformation about how broken UpB OoS is or that MK ***** Wario and Falco because of planking (even though some characters can **** MK by planking themselves).

I admit I was being a jerk in this case though. You didn't mention it in this thread but EVERYBODY knows how biased you are and some of posts are full of obvious implications.

 

[Luigi player]

Then the MK is doing it wrong <,<

There is no reason to shuttle loop a shielding Snake lol

You said MKs should shuttle loop spam. Why wouldn't the Snake bring his shield up against that?

You have to be carefull if the MK spams SL especially if you are at high % where it can kill you, but you can punish it and it's not that hard.

 

[B!squick]

Even if you didn't create a thread about MK in 3 months your posts are still full of bias. You CONSTANTLY post stuff like "fiction/justin wong/whoever thinks he should be banned", and you wrote a full paragraph about it in the "tourney play 2" result thread. Every garabage discovery (like side B ledge cancel) has potential to you (even when it's completely useless/known) if it makes MK look broken.
I also some of your posts on AiB, where you spread misinformation about how broken UpB OoS is or that MK ***** Wario and Falco because of planking (even though some characters can **** MK by planking themselves).

I admit I was being a jerk in this case though. You didn't mention it in this thread but EVERYBODY knows how biased you are and some of posts are full of obvious implications.

So... we just cycled back to the fact that he was there and M2K wasn't alright for the Grand Finals and... yeah. >.> What does any of this Praxis hate have to do with anything, again?

 

[DuskMarthWater]

So...why are you guys coming up with excuses for M2K? I think that's kinda funny, haha. You would think you would have excuses for yourself, but then everyone says you're johning. But when you make excuses for other people, especially pros, everyone agrees it's fact. How interesting...I agree with Vlade and Ankoku. Nobody plays at their best everyday, every time, every tournament. M2K simply had a hard time of it by the end there. That's the end of it. There's no need to make excuses to explain why. Neither is there need to attack him. That just shows you have no self-confidence and are degrading top pros to make yourself feel better.

You guys should go back to discussing the actual purpose of this thread now rather than transforming it into a flaming session.

 

[.AC.]

You said MKs should shuttle loop spam. Why wouldn't the Snake bring his shield up against that?

You have to be carefull if the MK spams SL especially if you are at high % where it can kill you, but you can punish it and it's not that hard.

mk can cancel the shuttle loop early and fastfall,doing this they can actually land behind the spot where they did the grounded shuttle loop,the only thing you can punish it with is dash attack,and even that is hard.

 

[Luigi player]

mk can cancel the shuttle loop early and fastfall,doing this they can actually land behind the spot where they did the grounded shuttle loop,the only thing you can punish it with is dash attack,and even that is hard.

Some characters have projectiles...

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

wow what an intense thread, m2k was sandbagging...that is all...

 

[Praxis]

Even if you didn't create a thread about MK in 3 months your posts are still full of bias. You CONSTANTLY post stuff like "fiction/justin wong/whoever thinks he should be banned", and you wrote a full paragraph about it in the "tourney play 2" result thread. Every garabage discovery (like side B ledge cancel) has potential to you (even when it's completely useless/known) if it makes MK look broken.
I also some of your posts on AiB, where you spread misinformation about how broken UpB OoS is or that MK ***** Wario and Falco because of planking (even though some characters can **** MK by planking themselves).

I admit I was being a jerk in this case though. You didn't mention it in this thread but EVERYBODY knows how biased you are and some of posts are full of obvious implications.

I'm biased because you disagree with me, lol?

Provide reference to me talking about up-B OOS being broken.

As to Falco, uh, Dojo beat DEHF by AIR CAMPING, which kind of solidifies that. It's generally accepted that MK's ability to gay and stall this matchup by both planking and air camping and never put himself in a risky situation despite the lasers is what gives him the advantage here.

Wait, why am I even bothering to defend myself against you attacking me at random? This isn't even a ban MK thread. This is a random guy from a region with no good metaknights attacking me in a random thread because he didn't like me not liking metaknight in OTHER THREADS. If you actually want to talk to me about my views, take it to PMs, otherwise, you're taking this thread off topic for the sake of bashing me. I wasn't talking about the MK ban at all, I was talking about my viewpoint as an eyewitness. Bug off and get on topic or get out.

So...why are you guys coming up with excuses for M2K?

All I can say is that, having been in the room with M2K at the time, he looked like he had a minor panic attack. He was not playing the same. You can take that as a john if you'd like, haha, and Ally won legit, no johns, etc etc. I'm just stating how I felt about the match as an eyewitness, not saying that Ally isn't a beast. Ally freaking TERRIFIES me. XD

Also, Ankoku summed it up correctly. M2K was definitely trying.

 

[DuskMarthWater]

All I can say is that, having been in the room with M2K at the time, he looked like he had a minor panic attack. He was not playing the same. You can take that as a john if you'd like, haha, and Ally won legit, no johns, etc etc. I'm just stating how I felt about the match as an eyewitness, not saying that Ally isn't a beast. Ally freaking TERRIFIES me. XD

Also, Ankoku summed it up correctly. M2K was definitely trying.

Aaah, ok. Wasn't aimed directly at you though. Nah, I'm the last person who would view it as a john, haha...I merely dislike disputation between people. I try to be a neutral and quelling force in conflict. Ankoku's a cool guy, mhmmm. Wish I could have gone to Genesis...*sigh* I was absolutely looking forward to playing Mango in Melee. Oh well. Anyway...

 

[-Jumpman-]

As to Falco, uh, Dojo beat DEHF by AIR CAMPING, which kind of solidifies that. It's generally accepted that MK's ability to gay and stall this matchup by both planking and air camping and never put himself in a risky situation despite the lasers is what gives him the advantage here.

Wait, why am I even bothering to defend myself against you attacking me at random? This isn't even a ban MK thread. This is a random guy from a region with no good metaknights attacking me in a random thread because he didn't like me not liking metaknight in OTHER THREADS. If you actually want to talk to me about my views, take it to PMs, otherwise, you're taking this thread off topic for the sake of bashing me. I wasn't talking about the MK ban at all, I was talking about my viewpoint as an eyewitness. Bug off and get on topic or get out.

Meta knight's ability to gay? I believe we were talking about bias here, and this proves you are biased.

Air planking puts meta knight at risk against many characters, against Falco however it's a safe option. It's called playing to win.

Alright, why do you presume this region you are talking about has no good meta knights? The fact that you do not know of good meta knights in this region (I still don't know what region you're talking about) doesn't mean they there aren't there.

We know you weren't talking about the meta knight ban. However, it seemed clear you are biased.

 

[Overswarm]

It's also clear that you're 15, but I don't go around blasting you for posting like a 15 year old. I wait until you do something stupid first.

 

[ice_cream_man]

are there vids of winners finals?

 

[Praxis]

Meta knight's ability to gay? I believe we were talking about bias here, and this proves you are biased.

Air planking puts meta knight at risk against many characters, against Falco however it's a safe option. It's called playing to win.

Alright, why do you presume this region you are talking about has no good meta knights? The fact that you do not know of good meta knights in this region (I still don't know what region you're talking about) doesn't mean they there aren't there.

We know you weren't talking about the meta knight ban. However, it seemed clear you are biased.

"We" weren't talking about being biased. YOU suddenly popped out of nowhere screaming "BIAS BIAS BIAS" when I made a statement about the mental state of a person I was sitting next to while he was playing a match, namely, that he was playing better earlier in the day.

Heck, I didn't even mention Metaknight in my post!! You just came out of nowhere and attacked me, and now you're nipping at my PHRASING to imply further bias.

Please, just stop.

It's also clear that you're 15, but I don't go around blasting you for posting like a 15 year old. I wait until you do something stupid first.

Indeed.

 

[blukberry]

Ally is an inspiring snake player.

 

[Slinky]

Nice reads by Ally. Pwned m2k pretty good.
8/10

 

[*_Echo_*]

M2K looked alot better at apex. and i bet he was frustrated in those matches, regardless, ally is pwnage up the butt