General ICs Q&A Thread

[Sieguest]

Were you trying to SND at that point?

I know sometimes whenever I'm practicing that happens me.... but I don't understand it....

hmm may be what R3d d0g said, but I'm not sure as I think you were synced back whenver you did that IB off the edge....

 

[Smoom77]

I don't even know what SND is. Lol. Super Nana Desync?

Well, all I did was a dashdance and it desynced me. No shielding or anything.

 

[Sieguest]

I don't even know what SND is. Lol. Super Nana Desync?

Well, all I did was a dashdance and it desynced me. No shielding or anything.

Standing Nana Desync.


hmmm trippy x.x

 

[LuigiKing]

Dunno if anyone checks this anymore (let alone actually answers questions) but...

I can get backthrow -> fthrow walking chain grab, but when I backthrow popo goes all ******** and I can't backthrow again without making him move too much before the throw initiates. What am I doing wrong? D:

 

[EverAlert]

Not letting go of the control stick.

 

[r3d d09]

E_A, you're my hero <3

 

[Rubberbandman]

Just a random stupid question, but how many Ice Climber mains actually use a controller set-up that isn't GCN?

 

[EverAlert]

...lol.

zero.

 

[00-Zero]

Just a random stupid question, but how many Ice Climber mains actually use a controller set-up that isn't GCN?

I don't use any controller that isn't for the gc, but my controller set-up is a bit different. I use X as my grab, still having Z as an additional grab for charging smashes. I have tap-jump on, and I have my left trigger set to attack, just for the sake of trying something new while desyncing.
Anyone else cg using any button other than Z?

 

[FrozenHobo]

i use R. my setup is tap jump off, and R for grab. everything else is default, though i may change Y to grab just for the hell of it.

 

[toobusytocare]

I don't use any controller that isn't for the gc, but my controller set-up is a bit different. I use X as my grab, still having Z as an additional grab for charging smashes. I have tap-jump on, and I have my left trigger set to attack, just for the sake of trying something new while desyncing.
Anyone else cg using any button other than Z?

i use the same controls haha

my finger gets tired from all thar grabbing ya know? so i gotta have 2 grab buttons

 

[Rubberbandman]

I use X button to jump for my hobbles, so I cant change that, Y seems too out of the way for me to grab, and I'm still addicted to tap jump. =(

 

[00-Zero]

Y has always been my jump button. X just feels nice to cg with. However, I use my tap jump for tons of fun desyncing stuff

 

[r3d d09]

anything you can do with tap jump on, you can do with tap jump off i believe. and i use x to grab. then everything else is default.

 

[J4pu]

anything you can do with tap jump off you can do with tap jump on

and many of the things are a lot harder with tap jump off (maybe not IC's techniques, but other characters)

 

[r3d d09]

you can dacus easier with tap jump off :3

 

[J4pu]

you can dacus easier with tap jump off :3

wat? you got it backwards dude, you have to press an extra button if tap jump is off...

 

[r3d d09]

it's been proven that it's easier. the timeframe is larger.

what do you use to dacus?

 

[FrozenHobo]

its easier to do utilts with tap jump off.

 

[J4pu]

@r3d: I've played falco since the game came out and also sheik within the last 6 months, I've never heard of anything like that.
link to thread or it didn't happen

Dash, Cstick down, swing Astick up + R (I have R set to attack)

but compared to the multiple things that tap jump off makes harder (DACUS, Usmash OoS, squirtle's sliding usmash thing) having Utilt be easier isn't that important, maybe it's just from melee but I have no problems using Utilt. Now reverse Utilts, those are fairly difficult to do consistently.

The only character I've ever thought tap jump off would be a better choice for is yoshi, so that he can use his UpB before his DJ. But if you just think and plan ahead it's not even necessary for yoshi.

 

[FrozenHobo]

well, its fantastic that you can do it consistently, but for the other millions of people that seem to find it annoying we enjoy the option to turn it off and, surprisingly enough, can still play well. what a surprise.. from even my experiences with melee, everyone has found tap jump to be an annoyance rather than a benefit. i can desync better without tap jump thank with it, seeing as how i can randomly lose a jump if i happen to be holding up when i get hit or accidently jump when i'm trying to make nana do uairs while i utilt. both offer different approaches, but having tap jump off allows you to engage more interesting nana tactics with a much lower margin for error.

 

[Hylian]

I play default controls. Turning tap jump off is silly lol.

 

[J4pu]

do you DACUS with normal controls without using the grab button?
if so, props for fast fingers

 

[r3d d09]

@ j4pu it's in a thread about mortar sliding.

 

[Smoom77]

I'm so weird. I got my controls from the Lucario boards when I tried to main him. I stuck with them. I have tap jump off, X is grab, Z is attack, and R is special (sometimes i use R for sh-IB because that desyncs rather quickly). I love it a lot, but it takes a while to get used to.

 

[r3d d09]

it's like when i played halo. i switched from default with inverted to , south paw, claw, 10 sens. . . took awhile. but i got it down pact. :3

 

[00-Zero]

Turning tap jump off is silly lol.

I agree with this. But that's an opinion. Having it on doesn't bother me any. I know that it does bother others though.

 

[Rubberbandman]

I just play with default, I dont want to learn my own combination of controls, forget to put them in when I go to a tourney, and completely fail. Also having tap jump off never made much sense for me.

 

[leatherhead93]

Link vs ics?

 

[ch33s3]

Link vs ics?

Easy as hell? Space with blizzard, powershield projectiles, grab? Link is BAD.

 

[00-Zero]

I'm really not a fan of the Link vs IC MU. I played a pretty good Link named Ninja (lol) and it's just a really annoying match if the user is good.

 

[sauc3]

link is hilarious, just wait til he does something, then grab.

 

[Zero Hour]

I had this idea but as of right now I haven't been able to try it because I haven't had time to practice it.

Can the ICs desync using a bdacus... and also If anyone knows like a step by step video to learn Bdacusing please post it.

I just thought this could have cool aplications depending on how far it goes, like bdacus to desynced blizz or sumtin, which would be kinda cool against MK

 

[Rubberbandman]

link is hilarious, just wait til he does something, then grab.

Isnt that every match up though?

 

[Blobby]

Sorry if this sounds dumb, but how do you do the inescapable or the chain grabs that get enemies to a huge percentage? I tried using find but it never really helped me. All I know is the Grab, down, grab down, and the grab, down, nana jumps, forward air, grab again.... etc. I haven't played Ice Climbers in a while, so can anyone give me a good idea on how the pros do chain grabs?

 

[J4pu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-rUKGJVvZg#t=3m0s

did you try using the other stickies? I mean you found the Q&A thread which is good but come on man, common sense.

 

[FrozenHobo]

you beat me to it...

if you would just look through the stickies its not hard to find... well, anything.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199966
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=232593

thats just 2. honestly, just try and put forth some effort. nobody wants to help a person who can't even help themselves.

 

[r3d d09]

what do you against spammy characters.

 

[J4pu]

spam back, PS, grab, CG, win
well, theoretically anyway

 

[theunabletable]

^No. Theoretically this is how matches should go:
Shield>use that perfect shield SDI to get close to them after they hit your shield>shield grab>GGs