General ICs Q&A Thread

[00-Zero]

dthrow cg twice to pivot grab, and be on your way.

© hylian

QFT =]
Good stuff right there.
Or just cg him on top of it if you have a higher (numbered) controller port lolol

 

[Dumbfire]

Does the IC's Dair have a windbox/windeffect?

 

[EverAlert]

No, it doesn't.

 

[r3d d09]

why does no one move their dair? do some people really thing when you dair, you cant move it?

 

[B0NK]

why does no one move their dair? do some people really thing when you dair, you cant move it?

Also I love the priority of the move:

With the feet pulled up, your hurtbox is almost covered completely from below (probably, since there is no real hurtbox data >.<). Not much penetrates through the hitbox and doesn't get hit by the move.

 

[r3d d09]

i'm just saying. some people use it to recover to stage. angle it over. and if the opponent is on the stage. move it away from them, giving you a tiny bit more space, so the most they can get is a dash attack instead of a smash.

 

[Rubberbandman]

It still has ridiculous landing lag, if it wasnt a stall and fall move, I think it would be a hella useful move.

 

[dj asakura]

Yea, if the landing lag wasn't so awful it'd be a much more viable option.

 

[r3d d09]

sometimes its the only way to get down. but some players don't know that you can move the direction of it.

 

[Smoom77]

I feel like some time I can move it, sometime I can't. Explain it.

 

[r3d d09]

idk. all i know is that i move mine. ha.

 

[ch33s3]

dthrow cg twice to pivot grab, and be on your way.

© hylian

I REALLY don't understand why Hylian or anyone else does this CG. Just hobble and pivot grab, he'll take the damage from his own grenade and stay grabbed.

 

[Hylian]

I REALLY don't understand why Hylian or anyone else does this CG. Just hobble and pivot grab, he'll take the damage from his own grenade and stay grabbed.

Too risky. You can just CG away safely.

Also, it has a sort of auto timing to it. It's weird but I like it. And the hobble pivot grab can still be interrupted by nades. AND he can still take the damage from nades while still being grabbed if you do mine because you can space the dthrows so the nade only hits him. And hobbling doesn't work below 50ish%.

I think overall those are some pretty legit reasons.

 

[ch33s3]

You can hobble at any %, just buffer a down throw as you grab him, and continue your CG. You just can't do backthrow hobble right after backthrow hobble at very low %. I think the timing on the dthrow pivot is MUCH harder than a hobble pivot, but I suppose that's preference.

 

[r3d d09]

Most of what IC's does is preference.

 

[dj asakura]

Most of what IC's does is preference.

QFT. Granted everyone should learn every option, if what you do works for the same situation as something else that you feel less comfortable about then the choice is easy.

 

[r3d d09]

I've been getting a lot of QFT's lately. makes me feel special *catface*

 

[dj asakura]

Haha, I guess you just speak the truth? Being knowledgeable must be pretty fun

 

[r3d d09]

It's pretty fun, but if you think i'm knowledgeable at this... you should check out the other stuff I excel at.

 

[HyL!]

i didn't really find a thread for this anywhere, but is there one that like, says what chaingrabs are best depending on character?

 

[Smoom77]

It's all your personal preferences.

 

[BadKarma]

ok so I want to do this hobble cg really bad but I'm having some trouble with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihpxKGInwLQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=nH2leKv7ysM

the cg starts around 26 seconds I think
but everytime I try to charge the smash with nana popo shields and when I try to grab when they stand up I just roll.

 

[Smoom77]

Grab>jump>bthrow>mash b>charge smash via cstick>let smash go>grab

don't jump before the bthrow. It won't work.

Not much we can help you with. Gotta learn timings.

 

[BadKarma]

how do you charge the c stick w/out popo pulling up his shield?

heres a video I took of me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q82dvwqXQqI

 

[Rubberbandman]

either start the smash with c-stick and charge with attack(A) instead of grab(Z). Or for that situation, charge and use a regular smash attack (A[held]+Direction).

 

[00-Zero]

Or you could set another button to attack and charge with c-stick+attack button lol

 

[BadKarma]

I changed my Z button to attack and it works like a charm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR1EnS6IO5k
Thanks guys :D

 

[00-Zero]

Good job. And you're welcome

 

[r3d d09]

guess i can do it if he can xD is it hard badkarma?

 

[dj asakura]

I feel like if you know how to hobble, you won't have an issue throwing this in.

 

[r3d d09]

I'm going to have to claw to do this without changing controls more.

 

[dj asakura]

I'm going to have to claw to do this without changing controls more.

Ooooooh! The CLAW!

(Name that reference)

 

[FrozenHobo]

toy story.

 

[BadKarma]

guess i can do it if he can xD is it hard badkarma?

It's a tad harder but also easier because you don't have to do it as much as a normal hobble
I only used the z button for charging smashes with nana so it worked out great
and yes if I can do it anybody can lol =p

 

[r3d d09]

so z charge, dash, then what? what button do you graab with?

 

[Smoom77]

Grab with XXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!

 

[00-Zero]

This ^ x10

 

[r3d d09]

okay, that's why i do. I just want to visually see how this is done in my mind.

 

[phi1ny3]

Ooooooh! The CLAW!

(Name that reference)

Toy Story?
Liar Liar?

 

[r3d d09]

It's toy story