General ICs Q&A Thread

[BadKarma]

so z charge, dash, then what? what button do you graab with?

I grab with x and somthing that helped me was when you know they are about to stand up start charging with nana
once you get it a couple of times it's really easy

 

[r3d d09]

okay, i did it my first try two weeks ago, but after that i couldn't get it. but i only tried it like 4 times. ha.

 

[BadKarma]

It just takes practice (obviously) but trust me it's easy compaired to other chain grabs

 

[r3d d09]

okay.
side note, i was hobbling snake and he would just pop right up after i'd hobble him, or he could get up attack. odd?

maybe it was b+ >.>

 

[Smoom77]

Lol hobbling doesn't work in bplus.

You're not hitting him fast enough with IB.

 

[BadKarma]

Yeah I spam the b button till I see the ib hit
my friends make fun of me when I do it lol

 

[r3d d09]

Trust me, i was spamming. i've never had that happen to me >.>

 

[BadKarma]

That happens to me with bowser for some reason I do a normal hobble but he just gets right up andstarts attacking again. He's the only heavy character that does that to me. Has anybody else had this problem?

 

[r3d d09]

... not this again xD
do fthrow hobble. problem solved.

 

[BadKarma]

Lol was there sombody else with that problem?

 

[r3d d09]

it's been an on going discussion.

cheese and i say you can bthrow hobble. but no one else agrees.

 

[BadKarma]

I back throw hobble all the time but not with bowser
I'll try the fthrow hobble on him sometime later

 

[r3d d09]

it will work.

 

[BadKarma]

So i have been told that you can pivot grab metaknight when he does his tornado. Do you do the grab when he's in the middle of the tornado or when it ends? My friend spams it and I wanna punish him =p

 

[r3d d09]

any time actually.

 

[BadKarma]

Cool now I just gotta practice it

 

[r3d d09]

you'll get it down.

also. Bnzaaa lost to a peach.

 

[FrozenHobo]

phillyrider

 

[Deathfox30]

What if the Ice Block doesn't hit him after the footstool? Does that mean I need to press B quicker or that I jumped before I did the back throw?

 

[r3d d09]

quicker blox

 

[GimR]

That happens to me with bowser for some reason I do a normal hobble but he just gets right up andstarts attacking again. He's the only heavy character that does that to me. Has anybody else had this problem?

This is because bowser hits the ground really fast. Because of this his ground bounce animation ends before popo's ice block hits him. Thus he can roll, get up attack, etc. If you delay the timing a little you'll probably be able to do the b-throw hobble.

About the tornado; you cannot pivot grab it any time, only when its close or semi close the ground.

 

[r3d d09]

he meant like, from when the tornado first starts, but thanks for clearing GRIM

 

[Teh Future]

tornado can be positioned to beat all of our attacks so unless you know you can bait them into doing it in a position where you can punish it then just shield

 

[r3d d09]

you can also grab out of shield if done correctly.

 

[dj asakura]

I would imagine that's a very small window of opportunity, though.

 

[r3d d09]

Just throwing this out there. I wouldn't theorize on something like that. Some people might want to slaughter you :3

 

[dj asakura]

10sadfaces

 

[phi1ny3]

This is because bowser hits the ground really fast. Because of this his ground bounce animation ends before popo's ice block hits him. Thus he can roll, get up attack, etc. If you delay the timing a little you'll probably be able to do the b-throw hobble.

About the tornado; you cannot pivot grab it any time, only when its close or semi close the ground.

Oh cool idea, never thought of delaying it.

Heavies in general are annoying to CG if you don't have fthrow's timing down really well (like me )

 

[r3d d09]

you can combo heavies easier, i think anyways.

 

[Rubberbandman]

Oh cool idea, never thought of delaying it.

Heavies in general are annoying to CG if you don't have fthrow's timing down really well (like me )

Well, theoretically, Heavies should be easier to F-throw CG since F-throw has the exact same timing on everyone, and larger hurtbox characters are "easier" to regrab.

 

[r3d d09]

i was waiting for someone else to say that xD

 

[B0NK]

Well, theoretically, Heavies should be easier to F-throw CG since F-throw has the exact same timing on everyone, and larger hurtbox characters are "easier" to regrab.

It depends more on where the hurtbox is after the initial throw. Snake (may, no hurtbox data) has a pretty big hurtbox, but he still isn't necessarily as easy to regrab with forward throw as say G&W. Regardless if you can learn the timing on lucas/ness you can do it on anyone xD

 

[dj asakura]

But if we're talking f-throw CG's on heavies, wouldn't it just be easier (although longer) to just hobble them instead?

 

[toobusytocare]

lucas and ness are easy

 

[B0NK]

But if we're talking f-throw CG's on heavies, wouldn't it just be easier (although longer) to just hobble them instead?

Yeah, as long as you learn the slightly different timing on bowser (then again, since when is bowser goin to be a problem for ICs, w/ or w/o CGs)

What CG's you use are all just preference. I use F-throw to position Nana for hobbling (for mid-heavy weights).

lucas and ness are easy

Well, it's different from person to person.

I find Ness/Lucas annoying to CG. >_>

 

[dj asakura]

That's fair. F-throw is just the only throw I can't seem to time correctly. So I'd basically be hobbling all heavies and then b-throw -> d-throw -> repeat on anyone else.

 

[toobusytocare]

well yes they are annoying but theres a method

dthrowx2 to position nana then bthrow>dthrow (mid weight timing)

 

[phi1ny3]

Yeah Ness is one where I have to position Nana or the timing's way different from the first to the rest of them.

Also not all heavies are easy to hobble, bowser you can't bthrow hobble (unless this delayed timing thing works out, then never mind in that scenario) in that case you probably have to just do a slow bthrow after a couple of fthrows. Most of the time with normal big characters I fthrow x2 -> bthrow hobble, it doesn't throw off my timing when I need to use Popo to nana fthrow again.

I pretty much:

bthrow to dthrow on light chars

bthrow -> fthrow on light/med chars

dthrow -> fthrow on med./heavy (like Snake)

fthrow x2 -> bthrow hobble on biggies

 

[toobusytocare]

i do whatever CG i want on whomever i want.

because im da bess

 

[dj asakura]

Yeah Ness is one where I have to position Nana or the timing's way different from the first to the rest of them.

Also not all heavies are easy to hobble, bowser you can't bthrow hobble (unless this delayed timing thing works out, then never mind in that scenario) in that case you probably have to just do a slow bthrow after a couple of fthrows. Most of the time with normal big characters I fthrow x2 -> bthrow hobble, it doesn't throw off my timing when I need to use Popo to nana fthrow again.

I pretty much:

bthrow to dthrow on light chars

bthrow -> fthrow on light/med chars

dthrow -> fthrow on med./heavy (like Snake)

fthrow x2 -> bthrow hobble on biggies

This is legit. I just need to learn timing on f-throws in general. Once I get that down I'll be golden.

i do whatever CG i want on whomever i want.

because metaknight da bess

fix'd