General ICs Q&A Thread

[Prawn]

They're both at the same time. Vs mk and snake and other top tiers you need to rack up percent without grabs by capitalizing on their running away from it, but at the same time you need those grabs lol

 

[Myollnir]

Yeah totally agree, Snake does very well against ICs on FD

 

[Prawn]

W0t


Maybe I guess o_0

 

[ch33s3]

I prefer BF, then FD, then YI, then SV against Snake, but maybe that's just me.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I like BF the most, and then Lylat vs Snake, and then YI and then FD. **** SV though.

 

[Roller]

I say **** YI.

 

[Myollnir]

Me : BF LC YI SV DF

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I say **** YI.

Well I say you suck

 

[Smoom77]

Sv bf yi fd

 

[Roller]

Well I say you suck

Says the man who ran away scared from our MM. ICU.

 

[-LzR-]

Another cool question. How useful is the desynched Blizzard wall? How long should I do it? When am I supposed to end it?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Is it working?

Then keep going

 

[-LzR-]

Yes, it's working, ppl still don't learn I can uair while doing it.

 

[Vinnie]

Yes, it's working, ppl still don't learn I can uair while doing it.

Lmao yeah. I love when Olimars think they can jump over my bliz wall and dair.

 

[-LzR-]

I love when our Olimar doesn't know how to beat Bliz so I can just spam it the whole match.

 

[FEAR977]

Hi, I'm going to second Ice Climbers and I have just a few questions.

1. What is the safest way to get back to the stage?

2. What do you find to be the easiest most used method to desynch during a match?

3. What are some of the top ranked IC's to watch on YouTube?

Thanks in advance.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Maybe i should hunt down my IC - > Olimar Chart.

 

[Roller]

You guys do realize olimar can literally whistle right through the blizzard wall and bop you, right?

 

[DeLux]

You realize that whistle can be grabbed right?

 

[Smoom77]

Hi, I'm going to second Ice Climbers and I have just a few questions.

1. What is the safest way to get back to the stage?

2. What do you find to be the easiest most used method to desynch during a match?

3. What are some of the top ranked IC's to watch on YouTube?

Thanks in advance.

Usually belay (Up-B) to the ledge is most safe.

Ask DeLux. There are lots of good desyncs. LD1, LD2, Pivot, etc.

Check the video thread. It's stickied. The first post has the top ICs videos.

 

[Prawn]

yeah playing vs olimar is kinda like playing vs ganon.

little harder but basically you usually **** his options

 

[-LzR-]

Well our Olimar doesn't know **** about IC so I can spam away with Bliz.

 

[Roller]

You realize that whistle can be grabbed right?

If you are desynched blizzarding, and as popo jumps and blizzards; Olimar jumps in whistling through it and dairs/fairs. You get hit. The only olimar I've seen actually use this, is Logic. And I have yet to see him get grabbed for it.

 

[-LzR-]

I would say that is rather risky to do. The other Climber is still free to unleash a hell upon Olimar. But I haven't played any Olimars who know the MU well.
Can't he simply throw purples at us when we Bliz?

 

[DeLux]

If you are desynched blizzarding, and as popo jumps and blizzards; Olimar jumps in whistling through it and dairs/fairs. You get hit. The only olimar I've seen actually use this, is Logic. And I have yet to see him get grabbed for it.

I am skeptical

Which IC did they do this to? They probably weren't blizzard walling correctly :\
You can't just spray and pray. It's a zoning tool, not a shield

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can do it faster.

Purples would have to hit our head, they do get stopped if they get hit by blizzard.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Squall (sideB) makes a good recovery option too.
But alot of moves out prioritize it, so it can be risky!

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Actually if i'm not mistaken, Squall Hammer has a dumb amount of priority.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Depends on the moves.
I get smashed and dair spiked out of it all the time.

 

[TheSaintKai]

Depends on the moves.
I get smashed and dair spiked out of it all the time.

That's it being out RANGED. Not out prioritized. Our hammers have good priority.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Ahhhhhhh well that makes sense.

 

[-LzR-]

Spacing beats priority obviously. SideB is a great recovery though.

 

[Prawn]

Just gotta mix it up :0

Gotta watch out upbing because people will run off and hit the vunerable popo

Also if you side b and manage to land on stage desyncing out of it raaapes

 

[Hylian]

Squall has a lot of uses that people really don't realize or use.

For one if you squall someones shield it should be a free grab.

Another is punishing people who hit your shield, many many moves can be squalled out of shield and they can't smash DI out of it if you follow their DI with the control stick and tapping B.

 

[Prawn]

You just spam grab while squalls ending?

 

[Hylian]

You just spam grab while squalls ending?

Don't spam it haha. Just do the normal timing for the squall desynch and press grab. You can also get a guaranteed grab if you jab their shield by jab -> hitlag desynch -> grab. This also works if you jab them out of the air.

 

[DeLux]

Jab 1 or Jab 2?

tempted to test

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Teach us your ways master hylian :O

 

[Prawn]

oic I'll fool around with it today?

 

[Smoom77]

-wish could go to tournament-