Gears of War 3

[MuraRengan]

Because shotguns fights are a joke now.
Because this game doesn't require as much skill as it used to.
Long range battles are still extremely important when you have team mates, not brain-deads.

This is how I know you have no idea what you're talking about. If you think this game doesn't take skill, you're obviously not playing with any competition.

Yeah Epic has never wanted it to be the way it is. That's why they added stopping power and upped the power of assault rifles, and added smoke grenades that down you, and added a huge pause between sprinting and shooting your shotgun. All of that bar the smoke grenades is still in the game, and it took them over a year before they finally admitted that the shotgun was the most used weapon, so they for some stupid reason decided to break something that wasn't broken.

Look how rubbish the Boomshot is compared to the shotgun for example, or the Mulcher, or the Longshot. All of them are power weapons that you have to fight for and all of them are dreadful compared to a weapon everyone starts off with. That's not balance, that's not fun, it makes so much in this game completely pointless.

The shotgun is more efficient than every other weapon. If you're suggesting that all weapons should have the same killing potential, then you're seriously misguided. For one, the boomshot is way better than the shotgun. The snipe is NOT supposed to be as easy to use as the shotgun, nor is the mulcher. Most weapons have purely situational uses. The lancer and hammerbust should only be used to do damage to people approaching from afar. It should not be used to deal heavy damage up close like the shotgun. The same is true for the other weapons, including the shotgun, they all have their purpose. It just so happens, that the shotgun's capabilities make it able to cover many different situations. If you can't handle that, then you're playing the wrong game.

I still play gears every day and I can assure you that TU6 did not ruin it. There's just too many people who can't handle the metagame players have developed, and insist on that old notion of how Epic "intended" the game to be. Honestly, I think the game is better than Epic intended it to be, and I think Epic knows that as well.

 

[Pluvia]

The boomshot is dreadful compared to the shotgun. If you manage to master the difficult technique of rolling sideways, then you've now made the boomshot useless.

The shotgun shouldn't be nearly as good as it is. It's a shotgun, a close range weapon, it's supposed to be beat by everything except in close quarters combat. People didn't "develop a metagame" in Gears 2, they swapped to a TU6 shotgun and watched as it destroyed every chance at tactics or metagames appearing. Gears 2 is just a dumbed down version of the first game. Like the majority of people I don't play Gears 2 anymore, spend a short ammount of time on post-TU6 Gears and you'll notice you'll keep bumping into the same few people.

 

[Master Xanthan]

So I just pre-ordered Gears 3. Too bad I'll probably suck at the beta, oh well maybe I'll be able to figure out the game eventually. I mainly suck at the game because I just can't win shotgun fights, idk I guess I'm just bad with it.

 

[Fuelbi]

Oh come on is it really that horrid? I've played both the multiplayer for Gears 1 and 2 and I really haven't found much of a difference besides a bit of tweaking on the shotgun's range and that's it

Besides, isn't there supposed to be at least ONE game out in the market that is shotgun reliant that Gears coincidentally fills? At least it's different than other games like CoD where shotguns are near useless.

 

[The Real Gamer]

The boomshot is dreadful compared to the shotgun. If you manage to master the difficult technique of rolling sideways, then you've now made the boomshot useless.

Are you being serious here??? I can't take you seriously anymore after this post LOL.

That's why you WAIT until they finish the rolling animation THEN shoot them... It's not hard to figure out at all.

Now it's obvious you're really grasping at straws here.

 

[Pluvia]

That's why you don't roll until they shoot, the boomshot travels slowly it's immensely easy to avoid. And if you're at close-medium range against a boomshotter and not in cover then you deserve to get killed. It's an easily avoidable power weapon that you have to fight for with only 2 bullets.

According to my stats the Boomshots account for only 3% of my deaths and kill, so you must be playing against some incredibly stupid people, or not know how to roll sideways and get into cover, if you think the Boomshot is broken.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'll gladly 1 v 1 you and it can be my Boomshot vs your Shotgun within Shotgun range.

Hint- It wont end well for you.

EDIT: And I never said it was broken. It's the easiest weapon in the game to get a kill with, and yes that includes the Shotgun. I'm just arguing that the Shotgun by FAR isn't as broken as you want to perceive it to be.

 

[Pluvia]

I would but I don't have Gears 2 anymore. The Boomshot is a power weapon that spawns in the middle of the map and has 2 bullets and is almost useless at anything over mid-range. Heck 1,340 of my kills, 10%, is with the Hammer of Dawn. Though this argument just comes down to opinion I fail to see how you think it's easier to get kills with the Boomshot compared to it's counterpart the Hammer.

Hopefully the shotgun in the beta doesn't have nearly the amount of range it has in post-TU6 Gears 2.

 

[Wretched]

The boomshot has 2 bullets and there are five people on the other team.
If you by chance catch anyone off guard, its a free kill. It has huge range so you don't even have to aim it well. It doesn't have to charge like the torque bow, either.
The boomshot is a ****ing amazing weapon. The fact that you don't die from it doesn't mean it isn't good.

The boomshot isn't as good in the situations that you're describing- one's where you see that the enemy has a boomshot and you know when and where he/she will shoot.
Situations like this rarely arise so it is silly to say that it is bad because you can roll out of the way.
The time it takes a shot to get to you from the other person is only a bit slower than regular bullets, so if you predict a shot and they wait, you're boned.

 

[ThreeX]

Yeah and also, once your team gets boom, just having the weapon can help you make a push and gain massive map control.

 

[Pluvia]

Which is why is spawns in the center of the map in areas with no close cover. Both teams have a equal chance of getting it, if one team gets it then by that stage the other team probably already has a few deaths. It's a bazooka, it does exactly what it's supposed to and it's balanced by its map situation and cons, it doesn't have all the insane pros and minimal cons that post-TU6 shotguns have.

Anyway unless I restrain myself we'll be on this subject forever because my stamina for things like this is never ending. We'll have to agree to disagree, post-TU6 ruined Gears 2 for a majority of people due to how scarce the online is on that game so I just hope that the Beta is nothing like it.

When it comes to the new weapons I've seen I'm not liking the One-Shot. For one thing instead of being unimaginative and making a bigger sniper they should've crafted it into a harpoon gun.

 

[Wretched]

I think that **** will be overpowered.

 

[Pluvia]

You'd think they'd have given it a hideous reload time, but instead it takes just over a second to reload. By the looks of it pretty much its only downside is it's a heavy weapon.

 

[Wretched]

I have heard it can kill through cover?
If this is true, OH GOD.

 

[Pluvia]

I'm not sure about that but I know it can kill a Mauler through a Boomshield, so I'm assuming it can kill normal players through them in MP too.

 

[WindMajor]

Aiming it better take an eternity if that's the case.

 

[Wretched]

Nah.
Its going to be like
"hey guys, im hosting a quickshot/oneshot lobby
360's only
good killcams only
Blindfires are good"

 

[F8AL]

Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that I may be getting some beta codes from...my source soon.

I'll give them to you guys if I get some.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that I may be getting some beta codes from...my source soon.

I'll give them to you guys if I get some.

I already pre-ordered the game so I'm good.

 

[Pluvia]

Aiming it better take an eternity if that's the case.

No it aims just as fast as any other weapon by the looks of it:

http://youtu.be/QNAIkYTlEKU

Look, it has even more bullets than the Boomshot too.

 

[F8AL]

I already pre-ordered the game so I'm good.

Nice, I look forward to playing the beta with ya.

You'll be able to play it beginning on the 25th.

EDIT: Gears of War 3: Beta Exclusive - Trenches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqJrO5F-9U&feature=feedu

 

[SwampertTheGreat]

It seems that workers at Gamestop seem to be saying that the Beta entrance from Bullerstorm is only a week long and you need to pre-order to get the rest of the time.I find it funny that their lying to get people to pre-order it there.

I was going to pre-order it anyway so I have a extra code if anyone wants it.

 

[F8AL]

It seems that workers at Gamestop seem to be saying that the Beta entrance from Bullerstorm is only a week long and you need to pre-order to get the rest of the time.I find it funny that their lying to get people to pre-order it there.

I was going to pre-order it anyway so I have a extra code if anyone wants it.

Me please?

 

[Wretched]

I WILL ****ING FIGHT F8AL FOR THIS ****.
caps

 

[The Real Gamer]

Is it too late to join in on this brawl? :o

 

[SwampertTheGreat]

F8AL replied before anyone here or on my friends list so it's only fair that I give it to him.

 

[Fuelbi]

Can I have it?

 

[Wretched]

F8AL already has a code, and I asked right after him.
Plus, I'm broke.
Help a bruthuh out

 

[F8AL]

Can I have it?

Dude, you already pre-ordered Gears of War 3 so you're in the beta since you get a code. (On your receipt I think?)

 

[SwampertTheGreat]

F8AL already has a code, and I asked right after him.
Plus, I'm broke.
Help a bruthuh out

Sorry but he still asked first.
Also Odin asked before you :/

If I get some extra codes i'll let you know.

 

[F8AL]

New video!

Gears of War 3 - Dedicated Execution - Multiplayer Vidoc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRixkfgxyyc

Gridlock might be back. HYPPEEEEEE!!!

 

[Pluvia]

That's dissappointing seeing as though Gridlock was one of the worst levels in Gears 1.

Canals and Mansion would be a much better Gears 1 choice. Blood Drive is obviously going to be in it/DLC due to the fact that Epic told us it was the most played map of 2.

 

[F8AL]

That's dissappointing seeing as though Gridlock was one of the worst levels in Gears 1.

Canals and Mansion would be a much better Gears 1 choice. Blood Drive is obviously going to be in it/DLC due to the fact that Epic told us it was the most played map of 2.

Come again? Gridlock was one of the BEST maps in Gears 1. (Along with other maps like Clocktower and Fuel Depot!)

 

[Fuelbi]

Holy **** different colored Lancers

Holy **** pink Lancer

I think I just **** my pants

 

[Wretched]

Uh, holy ****.
The running shot is back.

 

[The Real Gamer]

That's dissappointing seeing as though Gridlock was one of the worst levels in Gears 1.

Canals and Mansion would be a much better Gears 1 choice. Blood Drive is obviously going to be in it/DLC due to the fact that Epic told us it was the most played map of 2.

Disagree Gridlock was definitely one of the better maps in Gears 1, hence the reason it was brought back into Gears 2 and maybe even 3.

Both Canals and Mansion are good maps too though...

Holy **** different colored Lancers

Holy **** pink Lancer

I think I just **** my pants

Meh that's nothing to get too excited about but it's a welcome addition.

Uh, holy ****.
The running shot is back.

Now THAT is something to get excited about!!

 

[Fuelbi]

Eh, it's enough of a reason for me

And wtf is the running shot?

 

[Pluvia]

Holy **** different colored Lancers

Holy **** pink Lancer

I think I just **** my pants

Uh, holy ****.
The running shot is back.

You two really need to read all this.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

Wish I could play this beta on the 18th....

 

[F8AL]

You should be able to download the beta starting at 9 AM EST on the 18th and 25th.

I think it's about 500 MB.