Ganondorf

[Sykkamorre]

If Sakurai put ganondorf in with the correct moves, it'd result in no other character being used. To op 4 smash.

But yeah, I don't mind falcondorf altogether. I Like falcon, I like dorf. All good.

 

[LOL DUDE]

I'm sure that it has been discussed here, but I like to think of Ashingda's Triforce Ganondorf mod when thinking of how to re-do his moveset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZbfH7IAPo&list=UU0kr8LlfzuZFCd2I0Kv4y5w
However, rather than have him have three different movesets, I thought that his normals could utilize his sword and his specials would utilize magic. This could let him represent both his OoT and TP appearances at the same time.

And another thing: I think, if at any point his moveset is to be revamped, he should keep Flame Choke as his side-special. Its utilization is quite different from Raptor Boost, I feel.

 

[AbbiDood]

Side B and his Down Air have to stay no matter what.

 

[Ultinarok]

Side B and his Down Air have to stay no matter what.

Chokes n' Stomps.

Ganon don't f*** around.

 

[Z1GMA]

f tilt looks like it has less cooldown, same goes for jab

Ya, but Sakurai said ssb4's speed/pace is gonna be a bit faster than Brawl's, so the "less cooldown" might be illusional, bro.

 

[Sykkamorre]

Oh christ I hope not. I hope he's a bit faster...a least a little.

 

[Deathlightning21]

Faster Dorf is best dorf

 

[Z1GMA]

Remake or not - Ganon's gonna be more competitive come ssb4 than he is in Brawl.
I can feel it in my purple blood.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Remake or not - Ganon's gonna be more competitive come ssb4 than he is in Brawl.
I can feel it in my purple blood.

You can't really get much worse than being the worst character in the game. 99% sure he'll not be the worst this time.

 

[GalacticPetey]

You can't really get much worse than being the worst character in the game. 99% sure he'll not be the worst this time.

That will unfortunately be Marth

Nah, he's not that bad. But he definitely won't be as good as his past self. I hope Ganon can at least move up a little bit.

 

[young grasshopper]

"pick of the day: since Ganondorf was so over powered in brawl, we have replaced flame choke with the gerudo dragon move from melee. We have also made him weaker so that you won't have to worry any of his moves now"

 

[Ultinarok]

"pick of the day: since Ganondorf was so over powered in brawl, we have replaced flame choke with the gerudo dragon move from melee. We have also made him weaker so that you won't have to worry any of his moves now"

We worried about his moves before? His only good moves were Flame Choke, which couldn't kill, dair, which was avoidable, and Uair.

 

[Sykkamorre]

We worried about his moves before? His only good moves were Flame Choke, which couldn't kill, dair, which was avoidable, and Uair.

...And dtilt...

10dtilts

 

[young grasshopper]

We worried about his moves before? His only good moves were Flame Choke, which couldn't kill, dair, which was avoidable, and Uair.

It was a joke, heres another one: "Pick of the day: it was so sad that meta knight wasn't any good in brawl, so we took away ALL of his startup and ending lag and made his smash attacks kill at 80%"

 

[Sykkamorre]

So, sees like we won't be waiting long to find out if the 'dorf is in!

Me Gusta!

 

[_Ganondorf_]

So, sees like we won't be waiting long to find out if the 'dorf is in!

Me Gusta!

ummm.... not sure if sarcastic, but if not he was pretty much confirmed in the leak AND Nintendo leaked him very briefly by accident in a 3DS "trailer/commercial" they actually replaced the video they leaked him on.

 

[Z1GMA]

...And dtilt...

10dtilts

...and DA...

10DAs

 

[Sykkamorre]

...and DA...

10DAs

Trudat! IDA. Stupidly good after chokes.

 

[MajorMajora]

Honestly, I just hope they've changed his B move to dead man's volley, and maybe added a new down b. I understand keeping his old play style, but I think at least replacing his neutral B would improve the way he felt.

 

[Hokori]

Hoping Ganondorf gets unlocked soon so we can see those other specials, how much lag his aerials have, alts, etc.

 

[Z1GMA]

Hoping Ganondorf gets unlocked soon so we can see those other specials, how much lag his aerials have, alts, etc.

SH AC Dair MUST return.
btw, did ye make them ava and sig by yrself? Theybe dope.

 

[Hokori]

SH AC Dair MUST return.
btw, did ye make them ava and sig by yrself? Theybe dope.

Def. I'm hoping F-Air is less laggy as well.

And nope. Collaborated with my friend @ Solfiner . He handled the actual sig making

 

[Solfiner]

Can't wait for some Dorf combos. Hopefully that will be enough to make me swallow the salt that appeared when I saw Falcondorf in that leak.

 

[ChickenWing13]

Was Ganon confirmed already?

I don't remember seeing him.

 

[bobadz]

Was Ganon confirmed already?

I don't remember seeing him.

Yeah, he showed up, but the leaker lost to him so he's not unlocked yet.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Do we get Captaindorf again? I hope we don't or Ganondorf at least gets some new moves or buffs under his arsenal.

 

[Solfiner]

Do we get Captaindorf again? I hope we don't or Ganondorf at least gets some new moves or buffs under his arsenal.

Falcondorf is confirmed. I didn't see anything new unfortunately. :/ He is faster at least.

 

[TechPowah]

Welcome back, Ganondorf fans!

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Falcondorf is confirmed. I didn't see anything new unfortunately. :/ He is faster at least.

Oh.....that is great....-_-

 

[strawhatninja]

So no one knows his moveset yet?

 

[Hokori]

Ah. I see that the Great King of Evil has his own sub-forum now. Wonderful

 

[Oracle_Summon]

It is so beautiful. :')

 

[HeavyLobster]

Still has Ganon Punch. All of his moves seem basically the same from Brawl, though Dark Dive at least looks stronger.

 

[Lozjam]

Looks like nothing changed... Even the worst move ever, Warlock Punch. Why u do dis sakurai?

 

[Davidius]

That pose isn't very intimidating. He looks a bit like he's inspecting his nail varnish rather than clenching his fist with power.

 

[Hokori]

*Sigh*

Will this make two official Smash titles in a row where I don't use the Great King of Evil?

How are his aerials looking? Landing lag wise.

 

[Solfiner]

*Sigh*

Will this make two official Smash titles in a row where I don't use the Great King of Evil?

How are his aerials looking? Landing lag wise.

His U-Air seems to have next to no landing lag. So that's pretty great. Other than that, I dunno. :/

 

[Lozjam]

Dair has a ton of landing lag, It looks like fair does too. Aerial Wizard Kick as well........................... He doesn't look as powerful as Bowser either.

*Sigh*

Will this make two official Smash titles in a row where I don't use the Great King of Evil?

How are his aerials looking? Landing lag wise.

 

[Hokori]

His U-Air seems to have next to no landing lag. So that's pretty great. Other than that, I dunno. :/

Alright, that's pretty nice. I noticed that D-Air had a good amount of landing lag, but that was to be expected since it was out of a possible auto cancel window.

Dair has a ton of landing lag, It looks like fair does too. Aerial Wizard Kick as well........................... He doesn't look as powerful as Bowser either.

As for the D-Air, how close was it used to the ground? Same with F-Air.

I saw Wizard Foot and wasn't too happy with it either...Flame Choke will probably be the only relevant special once again.

 

[Sykkamorre]

Mehhhhhh as long as he feels powerful when I'm using him, I dun mind too much.