FS5: Reunion, Brawl&Melee, San Antonio TX, Jan 10th/11th (DRIVING INFO IN 1st POST!)

[Le_THieN]

;_; Sorry I don't live closer?

LOL, that's not your fault. It's just kind of silly that I managed to find housing for close to 50 out-of-staters for OH SNAP!, but 10 of us can't be accommodated anywhere that's reasonably close to the venue. Why have I wasted my time hyping up this event in my own state if we're not even going to be taken care of in similar fashion? You're not even a host, so I appreciate the fact that you're even extending any sort of offer, period.

EDIT:

I might be able to split you guys(melee/brawl) between kal and I... My house is an hour away from the venue.

That would be more acceptable, except that everyone that's entering Melee is entering Brawl too. But if this is the best offer (and you're positive you can do this free of hassle), then I will happily accept. I just feel bad crashing your place, especially since I was expecting more hands-on involvement from the hosts and people affiliated with this event to adopt a more proactive approach about this.

For fun, let's do the math:

Ten (10) people from OK for Brawl = $100
Five (5) also want to enter Melee = $50

Oh, yeah = $50 venue fee

You guys really want to turn this many people away?

 

[Hylian]

LOL, that's not your fault. It's just kind of silly that I managed to find housing for close to 50 out-of-staters for OH SNAP!, but 10 of us can't be accommodated anywhere that's reasonably close to the venue. You're not even a host, so I appreciate the fact that you're even extending any sort of offer, period.

It's SA. They don't have a big smash scene and they don't even really travel :/. All the people who used to house were melee players and are no where to be found. The few people who can house filled up fast :/.

Let me talk to my roommate and Kal and see if I can get about half of you at my house and half at his or something.

If all else fails you still have Jowii. I housed M2K/Azen for Hobo11 even though it is 3 hours away from my house and it worked out fine lol.

 

[Le_THieN]

It's SA. They don't have a big smash scene and they don't even really travel :/. All the people who used to house were melee players and are no where to be found. The few people who can house filled up fast :/.

That's a semi-fair argument, except that you have to consider that Oklahoma didn't even have a "scene" until four months ago. I've spent the entirety of the previous fall semester building up a reputation for a state that (sans KOS-MOS) has received absolutely zero competitive recognition, and much to my surprise, ended up hosting one of the biggest tournaments in the Southwest to date. Much to my roommates' annoyance, I housed close to 20 people in my apartment for OH SNAP! v4.0 by the time November rolled around. I threw another 15 people (probably more than that) in another apartment five minutes down the road. The guy who lived there doesn't even play Brawl, but housed all those people out of sheer love for the community.

Everyone else just got scattered around town.

I got by with doing this for free the first time. But if I want OH SNAP v5.0 to be bigger and even more successful, I will have to dig into my own wallet and make sure that the people giving you guys free housing are actually paid the second time around. The difference between me and the hosts of San Antonio (so far) is that I have no problems with doing this like this. Then again, I feel like I'm one of the few assessing the situation through lens of wanting to better the community at large.

Look. I have a craving for competition, and I know it's my fault if I end up having to make a 15+ roundtrip in the car to satisfy that need. But you also have to recognize that I'm making a 15+ hour roundtrip to play a video game. Free housing is not out of the question. I'm sorry if any of you think I'm being *****y or unreasonable, but I really can't help but be disappointed with the fact that everyone affiliated with the organization of this event have shown little more than apathy for my situation (or, at the very least, demonstrated a halfhearted attempt to accommodate me and my crew). It's understandable if San Antonio has a small scene, but I had the pressure of representing an entire state. So far, the reflection here isn't very favorable.

 

[Dojo]

^ That blows, people need to step up. :\



Ok, on another note, I have a question. Why is doubles (or brawl doubles at least) only $10 entry per team? There is plenty of reasons to raise that price to proportionally match that of singles.

Brawl doubles adds another dimension to this game. To start, MK is much less overpowered in doubles. Snake and G&W are both arguably just as good, if not better, in a teams match than MK. More characters have an increase of viability as well. Donkey Kongs, Pits, and Wolfs all have characteristics that do great on teams such as KO power, tank-ability, and having a strong defensive back-up that can get outweighed in singles. Hell it seems like TL even does great with the right chemistry involved within the team. And a strong Pika/GW team can even create hell.

Many people have argued that it is more balanced than singles, and some have even gone as far as saying it's much more enjoyable. You'll also notice that most major tourneys make the prices for doubles equivantly larger than singles. Brawl doubles adds alot of depth into the game, and you should really think about raising the price. I've noticed many Dallas players as well as others tend to enjoy experimenting and mixing up combinations to see what works well and what doesn't in teams. More people should look into it. Doubles is an amazing event for this game.

 

[PhantomX]

Le Thien, you'll have way more fun housing w/ Hylian anyway. You'll be playing smash with El Paso, him and me the day before... what more could you want? We'll keep you happily entertained to the point where you forget your travel woes.

I also agree doubles should cost more, DMG and I want lotsa money from it :X OM NOM NOM for god tier.

 

[Hylian]

That's a semi-fair argument, except that you have to consider that Oklahoma didn't even have a "scene" until four months ago. I've spent the entirety of the previous fall semester building up a reputation for a state that (sans KOS-MOS) has received absolutely zero competitive recognition, and much to my surprise, ended up hosting one of the biggest tournaments in the Southwest to date. Much to my roommates' annoyance, I housed close to 20 people in my apartment for OH SNAP! v4.0 by the time November rolled around. I threw another 15 people (probably more than that) in another apartment five minutes down the road. The guy who lived there doesn't even play Brawl, but housed all those people out of sheer love for the community.

Everyone else just got scattered around town.

I got by with doing this for free the first time. But if I want OH SNAP v5.0 to be bigger and even more successful, I will have to dig into my own wallet and make sure that the people giving you guys free housing are actually paid the second time around. The difference between me and the hosts of San Antonio (so far) is that I have no problems with doing this like this. Then again, I feel like I'm one of the few assessing the situation through lens of wanting to better the community at large.

Look. I have a craving for competition, and I know it's my fault if I end up having to make a 15+ roundtrip in the car to satisfy that need. But you also have to recognize that I'm making a 15+ hour roundtrip to play a video game. Free housing is not out of the question. I'm sorry if any of you think I'm being *****y or unreasonable, but I really can't help but be disappointed with the fact that everyone affiliated with the organization of this event have shown little more than apathy for my situation (or, at the very least, demonstrated a halfhearted attempt to accommodate me and my crew). It's understandable if San Antonio has a small scene, but I had the pressure of representing an entire state. So far, the reflection here isn't very favorable.

Kyle has already hosted several multi-state events in this series so he probably doesn't feel the need to go through a ton of trouble to get everyone housing. I'm sorry he's not as amazing of a TO as you are but realize we already have a huge smash scene and he's never had to do the things you had to for numbers.

Yeah, sucks right? :/. I feel bad that no one else living in SA can provide housing. I will make sure you guys get housed at LEAST at my place which is an hour away. My house might be packed, but you did it for me so I'm not griping.

Honestly, I've never seen someone do so much work for a tournament then you did for Oh snap. Shuttling people? Letting 20 people stay in your appartment? Not sleeping?

Amazing .

^ That blows, people need to step up. :\



Ok, on another note, I have a question. Why is doubles (or brawl doubles at least) only $10 entry per team? There is plenty of reasons to raise that price to proportionally match that of singles.

Brawl doubles adds another dimension to this game. To start, MK is much less overpowered in doubles. Snake and G&W are both arguably just as good, if not better, in a teams match than MK. More characters have an increase of viability as well. Donkey Kongs, Pits, and Wolfs all have characteristics that do great on teams such as KO power, tank-ability, and having a strong defensive back-up that can get outweighed in singles. Hell it seems like TL even does great with the right chemistry involved within the team. And a strong Pika/GW team can even create hell.

Many people have argued that it is more balanced than singles, and some have even gone as far as saying it's much more enjoyable. You'll also notice that most major tourneys make the prices for doubles equivantly larger than singles. Brawl doubles adds alot of depth into the game, and you should really think about raising the price. I've noticed many Dallas players as well as others tend to enjoy experimenting and mixing up combinations to see what works well and what doesn't in teams. More people should look into it. Doubles is an amazing event for this game.

Agreed!

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I remember when el paso considered going to oh snap for like a day you automatically offered to pay for a hotel room before we even discussed how much it would have cost us. Unfortunately TMS was a huge failure and we didn't make the money to go but hopefully we can make it to v5.0. Maybe a few small tournies before then will allow us to save some money for it =P.

We actually considered paying for hotel rooms our selfs too before everyone besides new mexico canceled...

Also since it seems hylian's place is going to fill up a bit I call a bed or sofa! w/e there is before floor spots begin to be distributed.

 

[Hylian]

Anyone who's housing with me for Final Smash:

I work until 3:30 or 4pm. So don't show up before then unless you want to sit outside my house waiting for me lol.

Also, bring stuff to sleep on! I don't have any extra pillows/blankets at all and I don't really have extra beds or anything either. There is one couch. Everyone else get's the floor lol.

 

[Le_THieN]

Kyle has already hosted several multi-state events in this series so he probably doesn't feel the need to go through a ton of trouble to get everyone housing. I'm sorry he's not as amazing of a TO as you are but realize we already have a huge smash scene and he's never had to do the things you had to for numbers.

Yeah, sucks right? :/. I feel bad that no one else living in SA can provide housing. I will make sure you guys get housed at LEAST at my place which is an hour away. My house might be packed, but you did it for me so I'm not griping.

Honestly, I've never seen someone do so much work for a tournament then you did for Oh snap. Shuttling people? Letting 20 people stay in your appartment? Not sleeping?

Amazing .


Agreed!

Hosting two tournaments does not an amazing TO make. This is hardly about bragging rights, but you have to admit that there's not too much incentive to attending if the only consideration we as a state are going to be receiving is to boost participation count at the bottom this thread's OP. But I get your point - different scenes call for different requirements and varying levels of shrewdness.

Anyway, Jordan, I'll take you up on your offer while you're still temporarily insane. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. I mean no disrespeezy, and I'll keep this in mind next time I subconsciously raise my expectations for others.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

I remember when el paso considered going to oh snap for like a day you automatically offered to pay for a hotel room before we even discussed how much it would have cost us. Unfortunately TMS was a huge failure and we didn't make the money to go but hopefully we can make it to v5.0. Maybe a few small tournies before then will allow us to save some money for it =P.

We actually considered paying for hotel rooms our selfs too before everyone besides new mexico canceled...

Also since it seems hylian's place is going to fill up a bit I call a bed or sofa! w/e there is before floor spots begin to be distributed.

You beat me to it. I wish i could find le thien's quote but i am too lazy.. . but SERIOUSLY who offers to pay a room for 5 people??? Lethien thanks again. It would be badass to play OK before the tourney

@king mosquito- really really give dojo's opinion a thought. I think many players agree.
I agree myself.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

Anyone who's housing with me for Final Smash:

I work until 3:30 or 4pm. So don't show up before then unless you want to sit outside my house waiting for me lol.

Also, bring stuff to sleep on! I don't have any extra pillows/blankets at all and I don't really have extra beds or anything either. There is one couch. Everyone else get's the floor lol.

well I called that couch. I do have an inflatable mattress I could take but by mourning new mexico was pretty much sleeping on the floor because it deflated really easily. So you floor guys can have an easy time going to sleep and then suffer in the mourning.

edit: yes we all want to give broken arrow more money, raise the fee!

 

[❀W.E.M.P.❀]

Sethlon, Hiza, Fats, and I need housing for SF5.

anyone who accepts will get free cigarettes, and if you don't smoke. uh... well hopefully you smoke.

 

[Hylian]

Hosting two tournaments does not an amazing TO make. This is hardly about bragging rights, but you have to admit that there's not too much incentive to attending if the only consideration we as a state are going to be receiving is to boost participation count at the bottom this thread's OP. But I get your point - different scenes call for different requirements and varying levels of shrewdness.

Anyway, Jordan, I'll take you up on your offer while you're still temporarily insane. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. I mean no disrespeezy, and I'll keep this in mind next time I subconsciously raise my expectations for others.

I never said he was an amazing TO. And he's hosted over 10 I think. This is the 5th tournament he's hosted in this series.

I'm just nitpicking details now .
When exactly is your birthday? The day of the tournament?

 

[PhantomX]

well I called that couch. I do have an inflatable mattress I could take but by mourning new mexico was pretty much sleeping on the floor because it deflated really easily. So you floor guys can have an easy time going to sleep and then suffer in the mourning.

edit: yes we all want to give broken arrow more money, raise the fee!

Om Nom Nom has defeated Broken Arrow in trny, we intend to repeat the performance >: )

That **** better get on tape, for real.

And I'll try to make the next Oh Snap, I'll have many more liberties since I'll be living on campus, I'll just be seeing a lot of Hylian's floor, lol.

 

[The MC Clusky]

Kyle has already hosted several multi-state events in this series so he probably doesn't feel the need to go through a ton of trouble to get everyone housing. I'm sorry he's not as amazing of a TO as you are but realize we already have a huge smash scene and he's never had to do the things you had to for numbers.

Yeah, sucks right? :/. I feel bad that no one else living in SA can provide housing. I will make sure you guys get housed at LEAST at my place which is an hour away. My house might be packed, but you did it for me so I'm not griping.

Honestly, I've never seen someone do so much work for a tournament then you did for Oh snap. Shuttling people? Letting 20 people stay in your appartment? Not sleeping?

Well excuse me for having to live with my parents who don't support me even holding tournaments....

Believe me I have tried to find housing for everyone but it's true that most of the Melee players were the ones that did the housing and it's not like I can convince them to house Brawl players.... or they retired altogether and want nothing to do with it.

I also get the "I'm not sure" answers, which no matter how much I pester, never speeds things up (and in some cases can slow things down.

This is one of main reasons I haven't had a two day major since Final Smash 2 one year ago.... finding housing is one of the most difficult things I find as a TO. There are plenty of Brawl players here but they don't get on the boards or get involved much in the scene beyond showing up to my monthlies.

Anyways, Austin is pretty close, and I'm sorry I haven't been able to find anyone closer. If I had a place of my own trust me I would open my doors to you. But my living situation won't allow it.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Mosquito any thoughts on changing the doubles entry fee?

 

[Le_THieN]

I never said he was an amazing TO. And he's hosted over 10 I think. This is the 5th tournament he's hosted in this series.

I'm just nitpicking details now .
When exactly is your birthday? The day of the tournament?

No, no, no, no - you (sort of) called me an amazing TO, and I was just pointing out that I've only hosted two tournaments, and not necessarily deserving of any status as the greatest TO to ever walk God's green Earth. And to be completely honest, I've taken several pages on "how to be a TO" straight out of Allan's book. I confirmed with TGM that Oklahoma would be coming to HOBO 11 pretty late in the game, but he still found me free housing a week and a half away from the date 30 minutes away from the venue, and offered to pay for a portion of hotel/motel fees if he wasn't able to work something out for me beforehand.

I honestly just assumed that's how most TOs were.

But that's not important. Call me crazy, but even in spite of this situation, I'd rather spend my birthday being old with a bunch of kids playing a video game all day as opposed to staying in-state at the sushi restaurant and getting trashed. =) And yes, it's on the day of the tournament.

 

[Dojo]

Yes read my post.

EDIT: Hanson, when you get there, I'll have your present waiting. (It's a banana. )

 

[Hylian]

Dojo you're just sick.

 

[po pimpus]

Just as long as he doesn't turn it into Banana Pudding... EEEWWW...

Yeah, I went there. Hylian is amazing. He houses Oklahoma and doesn't afraid of anything.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

so hylian since there's only a week left and you know who your housing now do you mind giving out contact info and directions? I don't want something like a server crash, black out, or some other random stuff keeping us from playing video games! Although a black out might still do it I'd trust it would be fixed on the road there.

 

[Hylian]

2122 Jasmine Path, Round Rock, TX, 78664.

I'll give numbers later.

 

[Dojo]

Dojo you're just sick.

I love you too. <3

 

[PhantomX]

2122 Jasmine Path, Round Rock, TX, 78664.

I'll give numbers later.

He got the number right this time. If for whatever reason you go to the wrong house b/c of spontaneous dyslexia, and some sorta fat guy with dark long black hair answers, that's not Hylian or his house.

 

[Sinz]

Ok New Mexico(everyone including myself.) have 0% of going now.

Good luck to everyone and have fun. :D

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

why isn't new mexico coming? You guys don't have to worry about tetsuya owning you this time but there will still be duffman and error.

 

[Hazygoose]

I never said he was an amazing TO. And he's hosted over 10 I think. This is the 5th tournament he's hosted in this series.

oh noes, he let out the secret! hanson is secretly hazygoose and rasta put together :o

 

[LuWIIgi]

im not sure if this means anything to anyone, but there is a possibility that i MIGHT be able to house some folks NEXT TIME
i would try to do it for this tourny, but im, most likely, only going on sunday, and it would be too short of a notice to my mom
if there is another big tourny in San Antonio i will look into it

 

[Sage JoWii]

Yo, I'm with Hanson on this: I <3 competitve brawl and I've only been competitive since the day before Oh Snap 4. That's why I have pretty much open doors for anyone wanting housing for FS5 even if it's 2.5 hrs away.

Hylian: I hated sleeping at your house because it was horribly cold and I forgot my sleeping bag XD so maybe sometime this week if you are up kinda late (10-12PM) I could drop off one of the rentz air mattresses for the OK or whoever people. It's a queen size I think and it'll keep two or three off the floor?
-just trying to help a bit-

 

[PhantomX]

Or you could pay for hookers for all of them. That will keep them warm and prevent them from sleeping, which will make them tired the next day and thus easier to beat at Brawl :D

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

and it will give them STD's

 

[Sage JoWii]

Hookers it is! Bwuahaha~ Higher tourny placing for JoWii!!

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

should you keep your air matters for the dallas and who else was it? well who ever your housing. Unless you already have the sleeping space for those guy.

I think they would get pretty mad if they had the option of avoiding the floor and you gave to us =P besides I have an air mattress to and others should be bringing sleeping bags and stuff.

 

[Sage JoWii]

o_O My house has a small bed, and three couches; but I suppose I should keep it for the people I house.

Good Luck to the peeps @ the Tomball monthly!!

 

[Nidtendofreak]

@LuWIIgi: Okay. I'm the Canadian with hair pass my shoulders, and a red/brown beard. Also, kids in my school will randomly call me Jesus if that helps you find me. Apparently, I look similar to their mental picture of Jesus. XD

@AB: I need a MM with you as well. >_> <_< Ike Ditto FTW.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

LOL

Slim said he was gonna trash me at Final Smash 5, i should turn that into a Retirement watch, he's washed up.

lol @ slim beating me

EDIT:

there will be a 4vs4 crew battle going on at FS5, Slim called my crew out LOL

 

[The MC Clusky]

Sorry I haven't been posting despite this thread moving rather fast, I'm up in Tomball right now with the rest of the San Antonio crew.

In response to the teams entry fee, I don't think I should really raise prices because let's face it.... I have had trouble with the price as it currently is getting teams to enter, and RAISING it probably won't bode well.

I didn't miss any other important questions did I?

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Sorry I haven't been posting despite this thread moving rather fast, I'm up in Tomball right now with the rest of the San Antonio crew.

In response to the teams entry fee, I don't think I should really raise prices because let's face it.... I have had trouble with the price as it currently is getting teams to enter, and RAISING it probably won't bode well.

I didn't miss any other important questions did I?

perhaps certain players can put in for a side pot??

 

[The MC Clusky]

perhaps certain players can put in for a side pot??

Ummmmmm......... no idea.

 

[Dojo]

Gaaayyyyy.