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What?hmm well this is my style i use it in many ways like i said so one of them is like yeah pressuring them but not just jc all the time i use it in in SH-A and jc and if there shielding well right after the drill then again jc or in the same style but instead of SH-A use the drill and follow by the same format the point is eather break there shield or lower ther shield to the point where you can him them..thats really it thats all you can really do but from there you can be creative like using not multi shine just 2 all the time like dash towards them when they are on the tip of the edge and you double shine them of the stage or when they are all upon you like in your face! instead of using one shine use two or more,i use 2 all the time but yall use the jc different then i do i dont use the y and b thing i use the control stick but you can only do 2 on the control stick well so far but i have experiment on both style and the way i use it seems faster..thats why i was telling yall that when i try using the jc with y and b the second one does not hit them but with the control stick is hits them all the time when i do SH and A or drill it hits them all the time so is double the damage but only works when your apponets % is lower well in between 60 or 50% of damage...thas all i got now,,,
1.Work on spacing, if you don't fast fall asa you hit him/her you'll(then L-cancel+shine) probably get grabbed. If your opponent is shielding too much go for the grab....
I only use Fox in major tourneys, but I use Falcon and Falco in local ones. I used to use Sheik a lot as well.
Cool video, but that still doesn't answer my question.
Well........ people with insane DI will be able to get out of shine combos very easily, in that case switch to a "camp and grab only" style
Not too practical, and it's quite situational. Depending on how fast you doubleshine, you'll either miss them after their jump, or do it too early. However, you could just multishine, but there are usually better options. There's also the chance that they just won't walljump-tech.
They'll Get tech invincibility, so i don't think the second shine can hit anyway.
lol. Sorry, I was supposing things.
CPU has insane/rare DI, try nair>shine>bair(not even waveshine) on ganon at training mode then try it on a lvl 9 you'll notice that the stupid lvl 9 DIs backwards and lets you land the shine>bair with little effort(you'll need to full jump if it's on 40% or so). I don't know if the same happens to you, but that's what I do to the lvl9s all the time,just for fun of course. Don't bother trying it in a real match because people don't DI like that, and they don't see the game frame by frame like the lvl9s do
I don't pillar. I just grab w/ falco. dair>DD>grab. maybe a shine> rshl> grab.
Yeah, I have the same problem too - the waveshine comboes in battle. Everything else though I have down (lasers, edge stuff, tech, CG, shffl's, wavedash).this is more of a statement that a question cause i dont think i can be given any more tips than i already have gotten on drillshine>waveshine>upsmash or upthrow>uair
but after i do the drillshine i do the dumb wavedash incorrrectly or i do it too late and i dont get there or i do it too early and i only jump..........
im gettin really frustrated cause i cant seem to get my fox to the next level
I got some good shinespiking and edgeguarding, my drillshine with the SH is not that good but with the full jump its perfect and my CGs are good
but i need to control waveshining and combos like nair>shine>upsmash,upthrow>uair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXWWRCo2YXM heres a video, im jagta, btw this was a month ago
