Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[brawlpro]

3 point DI is better.

what is 3 point di?

when fox gets chain throwed by marth, how does he get out of it!?!?!?

di slightly behind him. If it comes to the point where he can pivot grab well, don't get grabbed.

 

[dawn001]

does anyone know how to do the claw method like where do you fingers go and stuff or a thread on it?

 

[Zankoku]

You just hold your hand in a way that you have access to all the buttons you need. If I ever were to go claw, I'd have my thumb on C-Stick, then one finger at each of B, A, and X; but I'm sure there's several other ways to hold it.

 

[dawn001]

You just hold your hand in a way that you have access to all the buttons you need. If I ever were to go claw, I'd have my thumb on C-Stick, then one finger at each of B, A, and X; but I'm sure there's several other ways to hold it.

thanks cause am going CLAW OH YEAH!!!! am trying go get some edvice from the man him self JAVI but all he speak is spanish but i speak it too but i dont know how tell him well my spanish spelling suck's but yeah thaks...

 

[Randizzle]

i used to occasionally go to a claw grip with certain characters. when i did it i usually go with just using my index finger over x and my right thumb between the c-stick and b.

 

[dawn001]

i used to occasionally go to a claw grip with certain characters. when i did it i usually go with just using my index finger over x and my right thumb between the c-stick and b.

oh ok well i know where my fingers go but i dont know how to grab you know the fast grab but i dont know i think is by pressing the L +X+A while dashing but not sure does anyone know?

 

[Randizzle]

when i played using a claw crip i'd often switch back and forth between that and a normal grip.

 

[dawn001]

when i played using a claw crip i'd often switch back and forth between that and a normal grip.

you switch back and forth for what to grab?

 

[Chained Up]

If you activate the shine the same time as a Jigglypuff using rest does are you protected from it?

 

[SCOTU]

yes. and they're protected from your shine.

 

[Aeth]

how can you do a infinite shine because I don't get it

 

[brawlpro]

against a wall, do this on somebody that doesn't fall from a shine, shine > wdash down > shine > wdash down > rinse > repeat.

 

[Aeth]

oh ok thank you

 

[darkshy]

you could also do the drillshine which is alot harder, but really racks up damage:

shine>waveshine>sffld dair>shine>waveshine>etc.

 

[Chained Up]

Who would be a good secondary for Fox?

 

[Adi]

Anyone, seriously it's really all about preference. You shouldn't make a character choice based upon someone else's opinion. Do what works.

 

[Oskurito]

how can you do a infinite shine because I don't get it

Or you could just pillar them against a wall (dair>short hop>shine and repeat)

 

[Randizzle]

that way also deals damage a lot quicker, but it's probably a bit tougher to pull off consistently in succession (and in a way so that your opponent cannot escape).

 

[Oskurito]

that way also deals damage a lot quicker, but it's probably a bit tougher to pull off consistently in succession (and in a way so that your opponent cannot escape).

lol. Is very easy when you get used to it, just remember you don't need to do it as soon as you activate the shine, you can wait a little(before the stuns dissapears) and short hop afterwards. Obviously just be sure that it still comboes, for that purposes you can go to training mode.

Is easier to pillar with the c-stick imo or at least that's the way I pillar

 

[Randizzle]

that's how i do it too, i was merely making a comment on the difficulty of it.

in regards to a good secondary, just play whatever character you have fun playing or just play something to counter whatever matchups are giving your fox the most difficulty.

 

[Chained Up]

Cool. Thanks for your opinions.

 

[SCOTU]

imo, claw's not worth learning. just learn to do stuff w/o it. same difficulty really.

 

[noobmaster]

watch the beginning of this video... i want to know how peki pulls off the upthrow to shine to upsmash. Does he just perform a perfect wavedash?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN30cf8ejVU

 

[Yomi]

A couple of questions:

1. I'm playing against a Samus and wondering about the U-throw U-air combo. At what percentages should I be able to pull this off? If they DI? If they don't? Also, since not every percentage is going to work out, are there any other suggestions on what to do with a grab a certain percentages?

2. I'm getting chaingrabbed a lot by Peach. What percentages should I be able to get out of this, and how?

If anyone feels like giving me some information on grabbing, or getting grabbed by characters other than Peach or Samus I would also be interested.

 

[brawlpro]

The Peach thing, she can chaingrab you at very high damage. just di slightly behind her.

 

[Oskurito]

A couple of questions:

1. I'm playing against a Samus and wondering about the U-throw U-air combo. At what percentages should I be able to pull this off? If they DI? If they don't? Also, since not every percentage is going to work out, are there any other suggestions on what to do with a grab a certain percentages?

2. I'm getting chaingrabbed a lot by Peach. What percentages should I be able to get out of this, and how?

If anyone feels like giving me some information on grabbing, or getting grabbed by characters other than Peach or Samus I would also be interested.

1. you can't a good samus will usually jump away and use her bombs to return safely, if you grab them on 0% you can upthrow>uair but she can up-b you out of it(not jump I believe) otherwise it won't work. If you grab them at any other % just upthrow/back throw> run away and shoot some lasers to rack up damage

2.You can shine out of peach cg at very early % if they don't pivot grab(?)

 

[-PM-]

two questions here that i know have been asked before

1. who do you thinks better fox or falco cause i need to make one of them a secondary im pretty sure that im at the same skill with both

2. i have problems beating that dumb luigi with fox =[ any help?

 

[dawn001]

two questions here that i know have been asked before

1. who do you thinks better fox or falco cause i need to make one of them a secondary im pretty sure that im at the same skill with both

2. i have problems beating that dumb luigi with fox =[ any help?

for your secondary go with fox,fox alway ***** falcos well not just any you have to be good but my opinion fox ***** falcos ....and your second question about beating luigi well not sure how i never had problems against luigis hmmm maybe u-throw and u-air that should kill him and up-smash....also shine spike because it send luigi far off the stage then you could edge hog and from there do what you need to go to keep him off..

 

[-PM-]

the luigi i play wish juggles me to no extent and he abuses foxes heaviness and chain grabs me to death.... not to mention he seconds him so he knows how to play with him =[[[

 

[Miharu]

for your secondary go with fox,fox alway ***** falcos well not just any you have to be good but my opinion fox ***** falcos ....and your second question about beating luigi well not sure how i never had problems against luigis hmmm maybe u-throw and u-air that should kill him and up-smash....also shine spike because it send luigi far off the stage then you could edge hog and from there do what you need to go to keep him off..

He's not asking about how to counter Falcos; he's asking which would be better as a secondary, Fox or Falco. That doesn't have too much to do with the Fox/Falco matchup. Fox is more versatile as a secondary, and fares much better against Luigi as well.

 

[Ripple]

do you think its worth the trouble to double shine opponents? I'm at the skill level where I can get it more than half the time but it also takes away from way waveshine upsmash game

 

[-PM-]

well with the lugi its a tough choice because the blasters from falco work extremely well against lugi. but then again the shine spike is extremely easy to get off against luigi so idk who to pick but i do better with falco on most match ups

 

[Goldkirby]

do you think its worth the trouble to double shine opponents? I'm at the skill level where I can get it more than half the time but it also takes away from way waveshine upsmash game

Maybe you should just stick to trying to double shine when someone is shielding then. From what I have seen, double shines are most useful against shields because smart people will wait till after your first shine to grab, since people rarely double shine. But don't do it too often, because then they will catch on and just grab you after the double shine. Oh, and for damage, waveshine -> usmash is much better then a doubleshine.

 

[Shai Hulud]

watch the beginning of this video... i want to know how peki pulls off the upthrow to shine to upsmash. Does he just perform a perfect wavedash?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN30cf8ejVU

He's doing uthrow => reverse waveshine => usmash. This is a stupidly hard and pointless combo.

 

[brawlpro]

He's doing uthrow => reverse waveshine => usmash. This is a stupidly hard and pointless combo.

Is that combo called something?

and it isn't all that pointless.

 

[Miharu]

Is that combo called something?

and it isn't all that pointless.

I don't know if there's a name for it, really.

Try it against competent opponents, and you'll find out how pointless it is. There's stuff that's way more practical, such as uthrow to usmash, without the flashy waveshine in between.

 

[brawlpro]

I said it isn't ALL that pointless because it looks good

EDIT: VVVVVVVVVV

 

[Junpappy]

KoreanDJ did it once against PC Chris....it can't be pointless

 

[Ripple]

what should I use to edgeguard a samus? if they use the grapple I usually multishine like 9 times to make sure that he gets hit when he is in lag mode after he gets up.

 

[Shai Hulud]

what should I use to edgeguard a samus? if they use the grapple I usually multishine like 9 times to make sure that he gets hit when he is in lag mode after he gets up.

Would that actually work? I can multishine myself but never really found a use for it.